Yeah.... Rangers got 2 elites players for free. They also play in New York. Not hard to attract UFA.
One of the best rebuild is Winnipeg.
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One of the best rebuild is Winnipeg.
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kp61c
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Agreed, and even if habs move Dach permanently to the wing...Demidov, Hage + all the kids playing well in Laval and 7 top 50 picks next summer, habs will be fine imo
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As a Detroit fan I don’t wanna hear anyone who acquired a top 3 pick complaining about lottery luck. We never even got to pick higher than 4 and we iced statistically the worst team in the cap era.
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Canucks were putrid and never picked above 5, and made playoffs after 8 year's absence if you discount the fluke run in COVID. thats not a solid excuse. Good management makes a world of difference.
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i agree that the devils rebuild was successful. how successful only the next few po will tell. if they end up like toronto losing year after year in the first round it will be just a very mild success.
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When Kaprizov joined then they buy out the vets and finally traded Fiala for Faber. So about 3 years 2020~2022
Wild buying out final four years of massive Parise, Suter contracts
Both signed identical 13-year, $98 million contracts in 2012.
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I really like what Washington have done. Should have stayed away from PLD but other than that they are younger and faster this year.
Buffalo have been a mess for a long time but have some very talented players now.
Detroit could turn into Buffalo of old if they are not careful what they do from here on forward.
Buffalo have been a mess for a long time but have some very talented players now.
Detroit could turn into Buffalo of old if they are not careful what they do from here on forward.
in my book this doesn't qualify as a rebuild. they kept most of their core intact. the buyouts just limited their ability to replace those players with anything else than cheap options. none the less it was very good work by the gm.When Kaprizov joined then they buy out the vets and finally traded Fiala for Faber. So about 3 years 2020~2022
Wild buying out final four years of massive Parise, Suter contracts
Both signed identical 13-year, $98 million contracts in 2012.
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Yeah, for everybody who clowns on us for our playoff failures, I'm grateful I get to watch playoff hockey every year. It's tough to even get to the show, much less win a seven game war against some of the top teams in the league.
Credit to Washington as well. A lot of people had them pegged for the same precipitous decline as the Penguins. Maybe it's less a rebuild, but they've been able to tinker with their roster while collecting young capital, and it could keep them competitive for longer than anyone anticipated.
New Jersey is the free space, as is Buffalo at the other end of the spectrum. Detroit, Ottawa should be expected to take a step forward by now.
IMHO, the problem with many rebuilds is that they try to change the players without rebuilding the organization as a whole, i.e., management, coaching staffs, data analysis, etc., and so what they end up with is a collection of new players in a flawed system.
Success usually starts from the very top; so does failure. If the last rebuild failed, the next rebuild is also likely to fail unless you flush the system as a whole. See, e.g., Jerry Jones' Cowboys.
A problem is that ownership builds relationships with the organization that they trust, but then hold on to those folks out of loyalty even when they have passed their prime. The organization thus ends up with a bunch of dinosaurs trying to do things that might have worked two decades ago, but no longer work now. New thinking required.
This is not to say that rebuilds are not necessary -- every organization goes through them periodically -- but that a good rebuild is much more than amassing younger and better talent. Rather, a good rebuild is a fresh start from top to bottom.
My own take anyway, Viva La Difference!
Success usually starts from the very top; so does failure. If the last rebuild failed, the next rebuild is also likely to fail unless you flush the system as a whole. See, e.g., Jerry Jones' Cowboys.
A problem is that ownership builds relationships with the organization that they trust, but then hold on to those folks out of loyalty even when they have passed their prime. The organization thus ends up with a bunch of dinosaurs trying to do things that might have worked two decades ago, but no longer work now. New thinking required.
This is not to say that rebuilds are not necessary -- every organization goes through them periodically -- but that a good rebuild is much more than amassing younger and better talent. Rather, a good rebuild is a fresh start from top to bottom.
My own take anyway, Viva La Difference!
FiveTacos
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Are we counting years where a team was making a futile attempt to stay good as part of the rebuild? Some of these teams haven't been rebuilding for as long as they've missed the playoffs.
Lots of teams spend several seasons refusing to start the teardown because they're thinking retool.
Lots of teams spend several seasons refusing to start the teardown because they're thinking retool.
The Ducks' rebuild looks worse than it is right now because A) it's actually kind of two rebuilds combined into one with Murray having just started before he was fired and B) both coaches we've had during this process have pretty much sucked
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