Cryptocurrencies Part III - We ran as if to meet the Moon

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Crypto is a bad religion, but you'll never convince it's zealots of the truth.
Was only matter of time and the new Conservative party leader here in Canada ran for the party leadership in part on crypto and opening it up but I think that won't happen soon.
 
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Everything is down over the last year, so that isn't saying anything.
Indeed but Tesla is one of the bigger losers among the big tech type companies or mega market cap companies, Meta is doing worse that Tesla over the last year but others like Alphabet or Amazon have not fallen as hard, as of yet.

CompanyTickerStock YTDLargest ownerLoss on shares this year ($ billions)
Tesla(TSLA)-54.3%Elon Musk-$85.3
Meta Platforms(META)-64.3%Mark Zuckerberg-$75.2
Amazon.com(AMZN)-44.5%Jeff Bezos-$73.7
Microsoft(MSFT)-23.6%Vanguard-$50.4
Alphabet(GOOGL)-34.0%Vanguard-$44.3
Apple(AAPL)-18.1%Vanguard-$40.8
Nvidia(NVDA)-38.6%Vanguard-$23.1
Netflix(NFLX)-46.8%Capital Research-$12.1
PayPal Holdings(PYPL)-60.9%Vanguard-$11.0
Salesforce(CRM)-46.6%Vanguard-$9.5
 
Indeed but Tesla is one of the bigger losers among the big tech type companies or mega market cap companies, Meta is doing worse that Tesla over the last year but others like Alphabet or Amazon have not fallen as hard, as of yet.

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[TH]Ticker[/TH]
[TH]Stock YTD[/TH]
[TH]Largest owner[/TH]
[TH]Loss on shares this year ($ billions)[/TH]
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[TD]Tesla[/TD]
[TD](TSLA)[/TD]
[TD]-54.3%[/TD]
[TD]Elon Musk[/TD]
[TD]-$85.3[/TD]
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[TD]Meta Platforms[/TD]
[TD](META)[/TD]
[TD]-64.3%[/TD]
[TD]Mark Zuckerberg[/TD]
[TD]-$75.2[/TD]
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[TD]Amazon.com[/TD]
[TD](AMZN)[/TD]
[TD]-44.5%[/TD]
[TD]Jeff Bezos[/TD]
[TD]-$73.7[/TD]
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[TD]Microsoft[/TD]
[TD](MSFT)[/TD]
[TD]-23.6%[/TD]
[TD]Vanguard[/TD]
[TD]-$50.4[/TD]
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[TD]Alphabet[/TD]
[TD](GOOGL)[/TD]
[TD]-34.0%[/TD]
[TD]Vanguard[/TD]
[TD]-$44.3[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Apple[/TD]
[TD](AAPL)[/TD]
[TD]-18.1%[/TD]
[TD]Vanguard[/TD]
[TD]-$40.8[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Nvidia[/TD]
[TD](NVDA)[/TD]
[TD]-38.6%[/TD]
[TD]Vanguard[/TD]
[TD]-$23.1[/TD]
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[TD]Netflix[/TD]
[TD](NFLX)[/TD]
[TD]-46.8%[/TD]
[TD]Capital Research[/TD]
[TD]-$12.1[/TD]
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[TD]PayPal Holdings[/TD]
[TD](PYPL)[/TD]
[TD]-60.9%[/TD]
[TD]Vanguard[/TD]
[TD]-$11.0[/TD]
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[TD]Salesforce[/TD]
[TD](CRM)[/TD]
[TD]-46.6%[/TD]
[TD]Vanguard[/TD]
[TD]-$9.5[/TD]
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True, but once the bull market is back, whenever that may be, I do think Telsa rebounds pretty significantly. Unknown if that will be the same with Meta however.
 
True, but once the bull market is back, whenever that may be, I do think Telsa rebounds pretty significantly. Unknown if that will be the same with Meta however.
I think part of the problem for Tesla is that people are getting fed up with Musk, he will always have his fanboys but the general public is tired of him and how he runs companies. He does what he wants and does not listen. One of the biggest complaints with Tesla vehicles is the initial quality which is worse than most other luxury, or similar average priced cars and he has done little if anything to improve that quality.

He has been in trouble with the FTC how many time now? Including with a crypto currency Dogecoing which he is now being sued for over $250B is it?

He really is not a good business man but is an excellent conman and BS seller.
 
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I think part of the problem for Tesla is that people are getting fed up with Musk, he will always have his fanboys but the general public is tired of him and how he runs companies. He does what he wants and does not listen. One of the biggest complaints with Tesla vehicles is the initial quality which is worse than most other luxury, or similar average priced cars and he has done little if anything to improve that quality.

He has been in trouble with the FTC how many time now? Including with a crypto currency Dogecoing which he is now being sued for over $250M is it?

He really is not a good business man but is an excellent conman and BS seller.
Which is why his fanboys and another person's that shall not be named fanbase would be a perfect circle if we were to make a Venn diagram.
 
Binance simply accelerated the inevitable. FTX/Alameda were severely lacking in cash flow and their solution was to have another round of financing. Those companies were dysfunctional and had no business model beyond using Sam Bankman-Fried as a mascot to get more money from clients/investors. This is not an Enron where a legitimate business fell on hard times and started cooking the books to try and save themselves.
 
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Binance simply accelerated the inevitable. FTX/Alameda were severely lacking in cash flow and their solution was to have another round of financing. Those companies were dysfunctional and had no business model beyond using Sam Bankman-Fried as a mascot to get more money from clients/investors. This is not an Enron where a legitimate business fell on hard times and started cooking the books to try and save themselves.
That’s not exactly what happened at Enron. Pure old fashion greed led to them cooking the books.
 
True, but once the bull market is back, whenever that may be, I do think Telsa rebounds pretty significantly. Unknown if that will be the same with Meta however.

I think Tesla's problem is that every car maker is making EVs that are cheaper and better quality. Also, there way more hybrid options which will attract people who live in condos and appartment where they can't setup a charging system.

This is the new Prius. No longer a ugly box looking nerd car as its predecessors.

2023-Toyota-Prius.webp
 
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I think Tesla's problem is that every car maker is making EVs that are cheaper and better quality. Also, there way more hybrid options which will attract people who live in condos and appartment where they can't setup a charging system.

This is the new Prius. No longer a ugly box looking nerd car as its predecessors.

2023-Toyota-Prius.webp
I loled hard at this :laugh:
 
A properly run exchange would behave like casino where they just collect the rake on a bet or a bank that collects a fee when you make a transaction and be happy with those returns rather than trying to hit a 10000x grand slam by making crazy bets with customer funds.

This.

Listening to all the crypto pumpers talk about making 10x, 50x, 100x..... it's completely detached from reality.
 
Binance simply accelerated the inevitable. FTX/Alameda were severely lacking in cash flow and their solution was to have another round of financing. Those companies were dysfunctional and had no business model beyond using Sam Bankman-Fried as a mascot to get more money from clients/investors. This is not an Enron where a legitimate business fell on hard times and started cooking the books to try and save themselves.

SBF himself, when using a metaphor to describe FTX, was describing a ponzi scheme. The Bloomberg host called him out on it "um, you're describing a ponzi scheme," and he just laughed it off.
 

Kevin O blaming binance for putting FTX out of business

Worst thing you can do to a famous person, worse than stealing their money, is make them look stupid. All the idiots who were fooled by SBF desperately trying to rationalize their poor judgement.

Sorry there's no conspiracy here, you guys were just scammed.
 
Not surprised that Caroline Ellison the forest nymph squealed. It was just too quiet considering her former position even as a puppet.
 
AMZN lost half it's value. There's no reasoning with kids that think crypto and TSLA are the keys to wealth. My stocks and broke even this year and that's before dividends.
 
AMZN lost half it's value. There's no reasoning with kids that think crypto and TSLA are the keys to wealth. My stocks and broke even this year and that's before dividends.
Cool, and i'm still up 1,000+% from my early Crypto buys in 2016-17. So yes, Crypto could have been a nice key to wealth had you bought Bitcoin/Ether early when people told you do. But congrats on breaking even :dunno:
 

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