Cryptocurrencies Part III - We ran as if to meet the Moon

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is that all that crypto is good for? making a quick fortune for a select few? i thought it was supposed to be a world-changing new technology for all :dunno:

You Can Forget About Crypto Now
Crypto is the definition of the greater fool theory. It's fine as long as there are buyers but in the end there is always someone left holding the bag.
 
why in the world would I buy crypto at all?
That's like saying why would i buy a dollar? You don't buy a dollar, same as with Bitcoin. You own it, so you can buy stuff, and transfer money from point A to point B.

People tend to forget the actual use case amongst all the corruption and fraudulent schemes that come to the surface nowadays.
 
why in the world would I buy crypto at all?
The only thing you need to know is that people are quick to talk about their gains but never talk about their losses. You have no idea what their portfolios are composed of. Blindly trusting what anonymous people or social media influencers say online while putting your own money at risk is how you lose it.
 
Crypto is gambling that young teen boys like to call investing. If you got lucky and now feel the need to make it your whole persona on a hockey forum then good for you. But for the love of god please stop the embarrassing "crypto is the future" crap.
 
Crypto is gambling that young teen boys like to call investing. If you got lucky and now feel the need to make it your whole persona on a hockey forum then good for you. But for the love of god please stop the embarrassing "crypto is the future" crap.
The stock market is gambling that old people like to call investing too.
 
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The stock market is gambling that old people like to call investing too.
Except stocks represent an ownership of something tangible like a business, while cryptocurrencies don't have any intrinsic value.

Anyway, as with any kind of investing, do your due diligence and only put money that you can afford to lose. Don't put your life savings into something just because some celebrity told you in a super bowl commercial.
 
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Buttercup? Lmao grow up, you aren't worth a response if you're going to troll.
Dude everything you post here is trolling.

The stock market is gambling that old people like to call investing too.
Except crypto was not supposed to be an investment tool like owning a stock or a debenture or even like playing the futures market. It was supposed to be an actual currency with the ultimate goal of taking over from existing country run currencies but alas it seems to have lost that goal and is a speculative tool that has nothing backing it. This is why every time one of these cryptos goes belly up people lose everything they had in it.
 
Except crypto was not supposed to be an investment tool like owning a stock or a debenture or even like playing the futures market. It was supposed to be an actual currency with the ultimate goal of taking over from existing country run currencies but alas it seems to have lost that goal and is a speculative tool that has nothing backing it. This is why every time one of these cryptos goes belly up people lose everything they had in it.

Shitcoins and exchanges go belly up because they're created and administered by corrupt men. Bitcoin was birthed from an anonymous entity that has never sought personal gain from the project. It's backed by proof of work, making it unfeasible for any bad actor to interfere with the network because of the sheer amount of energy safeguarding it.

I made this thread 4 years ago and was posting about crypto here before that, always with the same advice. I just believe in the blue chip stuff, Bitcoin and to a lesser extent Ethereum. I'm not a trader and I don't trust anything else to not be at 0 in a decade. I always keep my coins on a hardware wallet, never in some online account of any kind. If you do that you'll never lose your coins unless it's your own negligence. If you get greedy and think lending out your crypto for ridiculous returns on some centralized exchange is risk-free, you're going to get burnt.

I wouldn't say the goal of Bitcoin has changed. I think it was created as a criticism of the fractional reserve banking system and the 2009 bank bailouts. I still think there's a need for a means of capital that can provide relative privacy and operates outside of a government mandate. But in any industry with this kind of potential riches, it's going to be flooded with scammers and others who weaponize crypto for different means.
 
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Crypo continues to show it is dumb and barely over a scam at this point. Come see me when you can easily sell and get your money back for any crypto and/or use it to buy real world items anywhere.
There's so much wrong with this post. The Uphold exchange is where you can buy and sell many crypto coins, and a site where can also get a debit card and buy material goods straight out of your crypto account. So you clearly don't know what you're on about.
 
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There's so much wrong with this post. The Uphold exchange is where you can buy and sell many crypto coins, and a site where can also get a debit card and buy material goods straight out of your crypto account. So you clearly don't know what you're on about.
It’s an insanely niche transactional method propped up by COVID stimulus checks and being able to easily gamble on your phone.
 
Come see me when you can easily sell and get your money back for any crypto and/or use it to buy real world items anywhere.

I sold ~$250k in crypto in 2020 and the money was in my bank account via a wire transfer the next day.

I don't think it makes sense to use for common everyday purchases, it's still young tech. I think attempts to make it everyday currency like El Salvador are a little silly at this point. But it could also be a bit like "come and see me when you can buy more than books on Amazon"
 
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Last year at this time ETH was at $4400. It’s at like $1100 now lol. I actually shouldn’t be LOLing since I’m thousands in the red in this stupid shit and my money is hostage until ETH gets back up to $4k and I can sell it
 
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There's so much wrong with this post. The Uphold exchange is where you can buy and sell many crypto coins, and a site where can also get a debit card and buy material goods straight out of your crypto account. So you clearly don't know what you're on about.
OK so a person can walk into any random retailer or restaurant and use their crypto directly to pay for my meal? Not having to buy some crypto debit card in advance. What about paying a property tax bill with crypto or a hydro bill?

As of yet, for the average person trying to pay for things using crypto is straight forward or as easy as cash, debit or credit cards, etc. The day that it is, then it might have a chance to supplant the current methods of payment. So you can talk down to me as much as you want and think I "don't know what you're on about" (lol wut?), but I know far more than you realize bub.
 
I sold ~$250k in crypto in 2020 and the money was in my bank account via a wire transfer the next day.

I don't think it makes sense to use for common everyday purchases, it's still young tech and I'm not even clear on if usage is a taxable event most places right now.
Again, that was not the idea behind crypto or proto-crypto currencies going back to the 90s. I mean the idea has been around since the early 80s with David Chaum and his Digicash from the mid 90s. It was created to have a non-centralized, untraceable method of sending money and making purchases. To this day even Bitcoin is in a cycle, and has been since about 2018 of bust and recovery, bust and recovery.

And the fact also remains that there is nothing underpinning it, if Bitcoin goes bust, may be unlikely but people said the same thing about regular banks, people will end up with nothing. Right now in Canada for example, if you have cash in a bank account here in Canada, the Canadian government insures it up to a certain level if the bank that is holding it happens to go bust. As far as I am aware, not one crypto can say that.

CDIC insures eligible deposits separately up to $100,000.

Deposit insurance covers the following types of deposits:

  • savings and chequing accounts
  • Guaranteed Investment Certificates (GICs) and other term deposits
  • foreign currency (for example, USD)
If your financial institution fails, you don’t have to file a claim. CDIC will pay you automatically.
 
Again, that was not the idea behind crypto or proto-crypto currencies going back to the 90s. I mean the idea has been around since the early 80s with David Chaum and his Digicash from the mid 90s. It was created to have a non-centralized, untraceable method of sending money and making purchases. To this day even Bitcoin is in a cycle, and has been since about 2018 of bust and recovery, bust and recovery.

And the fact also remains that there is nothing underpinning it, if Bitcoin goes bust, may be unlikely but people said the same thing about regular banks, people will end up with nothing. Right now in Canada for example, if you have cash in a bank account here in Canada, the Canadian government insures it up to a certain level if the bank that is holding it happens to go bust. As far as I am aware, not one crypto can say that.

CDIC insures eligible deposits separately up to $100,000.

Deposit insurance covers the following types of deposits:

  • savings and chequing accounts
  • Guaranteed Investment Certificates (GICs) and other term deposits
  • foreign currency (for example, USD)
If your financial institution fails, you don’t have to file a claim. CDIC will pay you automatically.

The Canadian government froze the bank accounts of some protestors this year. I do not trust them to insure anything for me.

That is mainly what drew me to crypto, the ability to store capital outside of our traditional financial system.
 
The Canadian government froze the bank accounts of some protestors this year. I do not trust them to insure anything for me.

That is mainly what drew me to crypto, the ability to store capital outside of our traditional financial system.
And they did the right thing freezing those accounts. In the end for this to become mainstream it will end up being controlled and regulated heavily by government.

I should note that I have always found the idea intriguing and I got interested in crypto because of work and how it was used and linked for such a long time to mainly the dark web and places like silk road market place etc.
 
And they did the right thing freezing those accounts. In the end for this to become mainstream it will end up being controlled and regulated heavily by government.

I should note that I have always found the idea intriguing and I got interested in crypto because of work and how it was used and linked for such a long time to mainly the dark web and places like silk road market place etc.

Well we definitely just fundamentally disagree about the account freezing. I do think governments will all try and make their own CBDC's, crypto backed by their central banks. China already has. Of course for someone like me, that's just even scarier. It's even easier for the government to interfere with your money in a digital environment created by them and privacy would be non-existent.

There are also lots of governments around the world less trustworthy than Canada. If your finances are reliant on the approval of a dictator, for me it's easy to see the appeal of Bitcoin and a store of wealth outside the view of the government.
 

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