Crosby "I'm comfortable where I'm at"

[IronBloodedLion]

87, 8, and IMO 71 have nothing to prove at this point. They can do whatever they want.

 

[RandV]

I mean obviously he has a handshake agreement with Gary Bettman that the league will gift Pittsburgh the next generational player and Crosby will get to play with him a season or two to pass the torch.

 

[winnipegger]

I get that being loyal is great, but if he does get traded to a contender he brings back a kings ransom for the franchise in futures. If he just signs a retirement contact with pit and rides into the sunset the franchise gets nothing.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I get that being loyal is great, but if he does get traded to a contender he brings back a kings ransom for the franchise in futures. If he just signs a retirement contact with pit and rides into the sunset the franchise gets nothing.

Would he though?

What kind of package is a contender going to offer for Crosby that makes it worth a franchise giving up years of a generational player?

 

[wetcoast]

Am I the only one who can randomly see another playoff appearance with Pittsburgh? Not sure he needs to be traded for a crack at it

New coach and a hot stretch? Would do more for a legacy than getting traded to a contender

Seems very unlikely, last season was probably the last chance and the team still found a way not to get it done.

 

[wetcoast]

Would he though?

What kind of package is a contender going to offer for Crosby that makes it worth a franchise giving up years of a generational player?

It wouldn't be a kings ransom. but it would probably be a decent package.

This is all oot as the only time this has ever really happened was with Ray Bourque but he had never won a SC and Crosby has won 3.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

It wouldn't be a kings ransom. but it would probably be a decent package.

This is all oot as the only time this has ever really happened was with Ray Bourque but he had never won a SC and Crosby has won 3.

Yep. Which isn't nearly worth it for Pittsburgh.

Trading Crosby wouldn't give the Pens some sort of supercharged headstart on the rebuild, but it would guarantee fan support drops to lows not seen in 20 years, deny Penguins prospects the opportunity to see how an all-time great prepares for success and conducts himself, and end the idea that Crosby is synonymous with the Penguins, all of which have significant value.

 

[elmaco]

He's loyal, superstitious and a creature of habit. He's been in Pittsburgh for 20 years now, don't see him leaving at this point. Heck he hasn't changed his shoulder pads or jock strap since juniors.

This feels absolutely crazy to me, how is he comfortable playing with that kind of slop? I would think it poses a danger to play with totally cooked equipment.

 

[Treb]

Crosby will eventually take Lemieux's spot as minority owner and Chairman.

Probably takes some front office or development job in Pittsburgh in the meantime after he retires with the Penguins as a player.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Hate to say it but I feel like it says something... not great... about a player when they are openly content with just not winning any more. I know that's not exactly what he's saying, but yeah

Aka you're an Avs fan that is mad that Crosby doesn't want to go play for the Avs.

 

[Three On Zero]

He’s ending his career as the 5th best player to ever play the game, he has no award or cups he needs to chase. Far more respectful if he finishes out where he started in Pittsburgh.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It wouldn't be a kings ransom. but it would probably be a decent package.

This is all oot as the only time this has ever really happened was with Ray Bourque but he had never won a SC and Crosby has won 3.

Which isn't enough to justify moving him.

Using Colorado as an example, I absolutely believe they could get a package like Ritchie and a 1st for Crosby if Crosby were to be traded there. But what does that do for the Penguins in the long run? It doesn't really change the trajectory of the Penguins rebuild, and I personally really like Ritchie as a prospect.

Crosby being a 1 team player and spending the rest of his career with the Penguins is worth more than the trade package he'd realistically bring back. Unless a team is offering something completely moronic that would greatly impact the trajectory of the Penguins rebuild (think an asset on par with Fantilli or Cooley), I just don't see the value in trading him over keeping him. And in the end, the only way he moves is if he wants to move.

 

[GordonGraham]

He controls his destiny if he wants to go out as a loser missing the playoffs in his last 3-4 years thats up to him

 

[Space umpire]

Hate to say it but I feel like it says something... not great... about a player when they are openly content with just not winning any more. I know that's not exactly what he's saying, but yeah

LOL!
So you feel like it says something about him?

I’m guessing you’ve never seen him play.

Oh wait then you close by noting the thing that says something about him isn’t what he’s saying.

Are you feeling ok? You really shouldn’t take that stuff without a prescription.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

He controls his destiny if he wants to go out as a loser missing the playoffs in his last 3-4 years thats up to him

He has won everything. Who cares.

 

[BHD]

Crosby will always give the safe answer when put on the spot. Just keep that in mind when reading his quotes...

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Wasting the end of his career, but his right I guess, still so pointless. He's doing nothing for his legacy in Pittsburgh/in the NHL and he's holding Pitt back from their much needed rebuild.

I don't know why this keeps being said. First, there's no guarantee a rebuild works. See: Sabres, Buffalo. Second, they're selling off assets even now, not buying. So they sort of are "rebuilding".

Plus, ultimately who cares if the Pens start a scorched earth rebuild today versus in 2/3 years? Rebuilds are less about WHEN you start and more about WHAT LUCK you get when you start. Drafting 1st overall today and getting a "good" player won't help you become a powerhouse more than drafting 1st overall in 3 years time and getting a generational player.

Would I, personally, rather see Sid move to a contender for HIS sake? Sure. I'd like to see him move further up the all-time playoff scoring lists. But does it bother me as a Pens fan whether the rebuild starts right this second or in 3 year's time? Not really. I'm more bothered by their refusal to fire the coach, but that's another story ...

 

[Space umpire]

I just think these are weird things to say and do as a hypercompetitive player. and it's Sidney

How would you know what a hyper competitive athlete should say?

Tell us all what he should have said.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Crosby will eventually take Lemieux's spot as minority owner and Chairman.

Probably takes some front office or development job in Pittsburgh in the meantime after he retires with the Penguins as a player.

...nope...he's coming back to Nova Scotia as an Owner/Operator of a Tim Horton's in Cole Harbour...

 

[wetcoast]

Which isn't enough to justify moving him.

Using Colorado as an example, I absolutely believe they could get a package like Ritchie and a 1st for Crosby if Crosby were to be traded there. But what does that do for the Penguins in the long run? It doesn't really change the trajectory of the Penguins rebuild, and I personally really like Ritchie as a prospect.

Maybe not a huge difference for the 25-26 seasons but Crosby will eventually be gone and those would be 2 very good replacement assets to speed up the process.

Ritchie probably brings more value than Crosby if both players are still playing in the 27-28 season.

The Avs first rounder in 26 along with the Pns first rounders this year and their own in 26 plus Ritchie gives you the likelihood of a much better base or core of a team later this decade.

From the standpoint of operating an NHL team going forward it would be a very good move but it's moot as Crosby controls his destiny and it's extremely unlikely that he will ever move.

Crosby being a 1 team player and spending the rest of his career with the Penguins is worth more than the trade package he'd realistically bring back. Unless a team is offering something completely moronic that would greatly impact the trajectory of the Penguins rebuild (think an asset on par with Fantilli or Cooley), I just don't see the value in trading him over keeping him. And in the end, the only way he moves is if he wants to move.

In terms of nostalgia maybe but at a certain point the age of the team dictates a total rebuild and looking at the age of this team and limited incoming assets they are right on the cliff.

Also Ritchie + a 26 first rounder isn't that far off from those 2 players mentioned.

 

[NVious]

I don't know why this keeps being said. First, there's no guarantee a rebuild works. See: Sabres, Buffalo. Second, they're selling off assets even now, not buying. So they sort of are "rebuilding".

Plus, ultimately who cares if the Pens start a scorched earth rebuild today versus in 2/3 years? Rebuilds are less about WHEN you start and more about WHAT LUCK you get when you start. Drafting 1st overall today and getting a "good" player won't help you become a powerhouse more than drafting 1st overall in 3 years time and getting a generational player.

Would I, personally, rather see Sid move to a contender for HIS sake? Sure. I'd like to see him move further up the all-time playoff scoring lists. But does it bother me as a Pens fan whether the rebuild starts right this second or in 3 year's time? Not really. I'm more bothered by their refusal to fire the coach, but that's another story ...

It's not about it working per se as much as it makes the end of his career more interesting for Hockey fans, even Pens fans would have something to cheer for.

This Pens team is going nowhere fast and the only thing keeping it from being in the worst of the worst tier (which they need at this point) is Sid/Geno/Letang/Karlsson who honestly all should be dealt and given a last chance at something.

Ultimately I think the other 3 should be as good as gone, but Sid is the best of them and it would be cool if he played some meaningful games for the last 2-4 years of his career.

 

[Brent Burns]

Dude is like Lebron, still elite

 

[SomeDude]

Ultimately I think the other 3 should be as good as gone, but Sid is the best of them and it would be cool if he played some meaningful games for the last 2-4 years of his career.

You know what's more meaningful than being Patrick Kane and going to play games that nobody will care about for the Rags and Wings?

Being around for the start of the next generation of an organization to possibly teaching them something about winning.

 

[Akrapovince]

He's loyal, superstitious and a creature of habit. He's been in Pittsburgh for 20 years now, don't see him leaving at this point. Heck he hasn't changed his shoulder pads or jock strap since juniors.

Retiring as a Penguin, the team that drafted him, would add more to his legacy than another cup. It’s more rare, more prestigious, and that’s on top of everything you mentioned already.

It wouldn’t add more if he was guaranteed another cup with another club, why would he for just a chance?

 

[NVious]

You know what's more meaningful than being Patrick Kane and going to play games that nobody will care about for the Rags and Wings?

Being around for the start of the next generation of an organization to possibly teaching them something about winning.

Crosby is at a way higher level than Kane, especially at this point in their careers. He can contribute very meaningfully to deep runs.

Pittsburgh is probably a good 2-3 years away from having a good prospect pool, Crosby playing on garbage teams is his prerogative, but it's also doing nothing for no one, it's prolonging a team that should be bottom 5 in the league to be even somewhat decent at bottom 6-12 and doing nothing for him.

Again his right, but it's also my right to think it's a lame way to end his career.