Value of: Criminals to LA

[Kingspiracy]

What physical players are available that can play a regular shift. Ideally after a top 6 winger and a top 4 LD. Both with a bit of piss n vinegar to their game. Preferably in their mid twenties.

Byfield, Turcotte and Clarke are off the table but pretty much everyone else is up for discussion.

Who's available?

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[elitepete]

What would you offer for JT Miller?

 

[StreetHawk]

So what actually would be on the table if you are taking those guys off the table?
top 6 F or top 4 D in their mid 20’s?
Why would a team give that up unless they got something of value?

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Go get Crouse and Stralman in ARI.
Likely get both for 2nd and 3rd in off setting years

 

[Llamamoto]

So what actually would be on the table if you are taking those guys off the table?
top 6 F or top 4 D in their mid 20’s?
Why would a team give that up unless they got something of value?

The Kings have plenty of valuable prospects outside of Byfield/Turcotte/Clarke.

 

[StreetHawk]

The Kings have plenty of valuable prospects outside of Byfield/Turcotte/Clarke.

Unless you are doing an AZ tank, I don’t see teams giving up those types of nhl players for prospects.

 

[T_Cage]

Nobody in here has made the Mailloux to LA joke yet?

given the thread title I thought that was a given

 

[themelkman]

Lets get a double Kane going. Evander Kane for fake vaccine and Patrick Kane for assault

 

[Captain97]

Nobody in here has made the Mailloux to LA joke yet?

given the thread title I thought that was a given

I thought the plan was to get Mailloux and Kane tbh. Based solely on the title.

 

[rumrokh]

4th liners, maybe, but top 6 forwards and top 4 D like this are rarely available during the season except at the trade deadline. The Kings had their chance when guys like Ellis, Buchnevich, and Dillon all moved during the summer. Even depth players like Reaves and Blais.

There's a reason Coleman and Hyman got paid. Teams make moves like this during summer, not in the first quarter of the season. Maybe there's an older-ish (closer to 30) guy like this who is a massive cap dump you can acquire without giving up assets (given that LA is a team that needs to be building instead of spending)???

 

[Kingspiracy]

What would you offer for JT Miller?

What are you after, futures or roster players?
Kempe + Walker + pick?

So what actually would be on the table if you are taking those guys off the table?
top 6 F or top 4 D in their mid 20’s?
Why would a team give that up unless they got something of value?

We have a lot of really good prospects outside of those guys, admittedly a tier down, but im not asking for an elite player. We also have guys like Kempe that may interest cap strapped teams (ie a retained kempe + for a more expensive player.

Go get Crouse and Stralman in ARI.
Likely get both for 2nd and 3rd in off setting years

I wouldnt mind Crouse, but LA and Zona organisations arent that friendly.

 

[Clint Eastwood]

Bring back Voynov

 

[elitepete]

What are you after, futures or roster players?
Kempe + Walker + pick?

Youngish top 4 rd or a young forward.

What is Walker? Top 4 or bottom pairing?

 

[Cogburn]

What are you after, futures or roster players?
Kempe + Walker + pick?

A thirty point winger (I know, I know he will do better away from LA's system, but still) and an undersized, puck moving D (even a righty) aren't really needs. Miller has been a point per game and has provided leadership, physical play and was a significant investment for a team desperate to make the playoffs.

I know it was one of our guys that brought his name up, but that offer is no where near enough.

A sound defensive, preferably physical, RHD that can play big, important minutes, is really the only hole that Millers absence could justify filling, and, that's one guy on the King's roster I know would block a trade here. Futures wouldn't be entertained by Benning, as missing the playoffs this year is all ownership needs to can him. We need similar things to what has been asked for in this thread, otherwise.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Does Virtanen have an out clause in the KHL?

 

[KingsFan7824]

For those unfamiliar, Dean Lombardi once said that basically every team needs a couple criminals on it, meaning you can't have 23 goody-two-shoes. You need some snarl. Not literal criminals. This was also said well before anything that happened after June 2014, as the Kings actually did have a couple guys go afoul of the law after that.

 

[Kingspiracy]

Youngish top 4 rd or a young forward.

What is Walker? Top 4 or bottom pairing?

He's probably a tweener 4-5

 

[Hodge]

Evander Kane is available.

 

[Kurrilino]

Please stop.........

The Kings problem of missing the right skill and playing hockey from the 70's can't be fixed by adding goons from the 70's
We have Lemieux and he is rarely played. How about we start here?

 

[Kingspiracy]

Please stop.........

The Kings problem of missing the right skill and playing hockey from the 70's can't be fixed by adding goons from the 70's
We have Lemieux and he is rarely played. How about we start here?

How bout you please stop. Who said goons? Im just after players that play with a pair.

 

[elitepete]

He's probably a tweener 4-5

How about something around Vilardi?

 

[Kingspiracy]

Evander Kane is available.

If he didnt have all that baggage id love him on the team. Exactly the right mix of abilty and grit.

 

[Kingspiracy]

How about something around Vilardi?

Its probably too soon for us to move on from Vilardi. Byfield and Turcotte need to establish themselves before I'd be comfortable moving him.

I don't think id move Vilardi for Miller even then.

 

[KingsFan7824]

What physical players are available that can play a regular shift. Ideally after a top 6 winger and a top 4 LD. Both with a bit of piss n vinegar to their game. Preferably in their mid twenties.

Its probably too soon for us to move on from Vilardi. Byfield and Turcotte need to establish themselves before I'd be comfortable moving him.

But you're not getting physical and productive players in their mid 20's for Kempe and Walker though. If the Kings are desperate, and someone wants to take a chance that Vilardi has potential left, then you have to pull the trigger on it. Or, just live with what you got. Or, grab another 4th line warm body who might hit someone for a mid rd pick.

 

[voxel]

How bout you please stop. Who said goons? Im just after players that play with a pair.

Wait.. Dustin Brown is still on the team. What happened to him?

You also traded away Boko. He's pure piss and vinegar.