Confirmed with Link: Craig Berube named the 32nd Coach of the Toronto Maple Leafs

[Leaffan1991]

Keep replacing coaches it's always going to be the same shit. The real issue is the core forwards taking up all the cap space and not dominating compared to their cap hits

 

[Maple Leaf]

Keep replacing coaches it's always going to be the same shit. The real issue is the core forwards taking up all the cap space and not dominating compared to their cap hits

Coaching is overrated if the players can]t get it done how kaj

 

[Leafs98]

When they stink...Sometimes i imagine that if they were sellers at deadline and could move Rielly they'd have 26 mil in cap space next year. Thats a whole new team anyway you want it. Is Berube the right guy.

 

[Leafs87]

Berubes system hasn’t brought much of an identity. I was always very hesitant in hiring a tough coach for a soft core. They get outhit regularly, they’re soft on the forecheck and back check. The special teams have been especially alarming. He’s reduced offensive ability of key forwards while not replacing it with defence or toughness. Kind of a rough start IMO. The defence itself, I am kind of on the fence whether it’s his system or the addition of Tanev and OEL but there has been some improvement. Stolarz is shaping up to be amazing but on nights when Woll gets the net it gives me serious Babcock/Keefe vibes of a team that just won’t go far.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Berubes system hasn’t brought much of an identity. I was always very hesitant in hiring a tough coach for a soft core. They get outhit regularly, they’re soft on the forecheck and back check. The special teams have been especially alarming. He’s reduced offensive ability of key forwards while not replacing it with defence or toughness. Kind of a rough start IMO. The defence itself, I am kind of on the fence whether it’s his system or the addition of Tanev and OEL but there has been some improvement. Stolarz is shaping up to be amazing but on nights when Woll gets the net it gives me serious Babcock/Keefe vibes of a team that just won’t go far.

The concerning thing is if Berube is supposed to be a defensive upgrade and Treliving’s adds on defense are supposed to be a defensive upgrade, they still haven’t even hit the highs of what Keefe squeezed out of the team in those 10 game stretches when Brodie, Rielly, Muzzin, and both starting goalies were injured. Apparently there’s a switch the team can flip to make a Gio-Lily or Sandin-Lily top pair + Mete-Hollowell bottom pair playing in front of Jones or whoever it was average 2 GAA for almost a month and we seem to be incapable of flipping it with a fully healthy team and better coach.

 

[Niagara Bill]

How many coaches and GMs do we need to turf before we realize it is the players...

I am not saying Berube is the second coming of of Scotty Bowman, but we have watched this core flounder under several coaches now.

Start trading core pieces

Tre did that in Calgary...how did that work out

 

[sxvnert]

Berube is Sheldon Keefe wrapped in a Babcock skin suit.

 

[Dekes For Days]

So the same record with 2 totally different sets of fancy stats……kinda flys in the face of the notion that those stats actually mean anything

No it doesn't. It just means that there's more to a record than 5v5 play. Half of our wins at that point last year were in OT/SO, and our PP was hot.

These are significantly better underlying numbers which is what one would expect playing a more direct, lower risk game.

To be clear, the tiny sample of 5v5 stats to start last year was the outlier. We had better underlying numbers through Keefe's tenure than we have this year so far.

 

[Racer88]

No it doesn't. It just means that there's more to a record than 5v5 play. Half of our wins at that point last year were in OT/SO, and our PP was hot.

To be clear, the tiny sample of 5v5 stats to start last year was the outlier. We had better underlying numbers through Keefe's tenure than we have this year so far.

And yet no more success under Keefe then Berube

 

[Budz]

The thing that I can see as a positive is:

Everyone has a job and is valued by the coach
Hard work is rewarded
Results over stats
He reduces media drama in how he handles the media

 

[Maple Leaf]

Tre did that in Calgary...how did that work out

They did that in Florida
how did that work out
Tre just got owned

 

[Dekes For Days]

And yet no more success under Keefe then Berube

Actually so far, there was.