TSN: Coyotes targeting Duchene, potential capital infusion with new ownership?

[Fyreman]

...day drinking on game days?

So, day drinking is a bad thing?? Remember- I'm a Coyote's fan!!

 

[SR]

So, day drinking is a bad thing?? Remember- I'm a Coyote's fan!!

Where’d you retire from?

 

[AZviaNJ]

Duchene will eat up most if not all of Stepan's PP time, and DVO can eat up more PK time as well. Chucky can play C in a pinch, and the way it sounds they want to try Schmaltz at C.

If Stepan is your 3C, you're in good shape. Step's ability to play in all situations and with the leadership he brings he'd be one of the best 3C's in the NHL.

 

[Jamieh]

If Stepan is your 3C, you're in good shape. Step's ability to play in all situations and with the leadership he brings he'd be one of the best 3C's in the NHL.

Not sure how a $6.5 million 3C can work in a Cap world? You would have to be very weak elsewhere to make that up.

 

[moosemeister]

Not sure how a $6.5 million 3C can work in a Cap world? You would have to be very weak elsewhere to make that up.

We are very weak. It’s at center.

 

[_Del_]

$6.5M 3C is a big problem-- if your top two C's are both making more than that. Ours would not be. Problem solved.

 

[Matias Maccete]

$6.5M 3C is a big problem-- if your top two C's are both making more than that. Ours would not be. Problem solved.

Man if we could have scored ROR instead of Stepan, it would be so nice.

 

[Jamieh]

$6.5M 3C is a big problem-- if your top two C's are both making more than that. Ours would not be. Problem solved.

Doubtful in that case that Stepan is your number 3 then. Problem back on.

 

[Jamieh]

We are very weak. It’s at center.

I agree but we aren't likely getting two upgrades on Stepan for less money.

 

[Jakey53]

$6.5M 3C is a big problem-- if your top two C's are both making more than that. Ours would not be. Problem solved.

If we sign Duchene?

 

[lanky]

Man if we could have scored ROR instead of Stepan, it would be so nice.

I'm not sure about the timeline of the ROR rumour but I think we already had Stepan. We got Gally instead of ROR.

 

[rt]

Dvorak will jump Stepan when he actually jumps Stepan.

 

[RemoAZ]

I'm not sure about the timeline of the ROR rumour but I think we already had Stepan. We got Gally instead of ROR.

Man if that's true we lost that trade x2.

 

[moosemeister]

Dvorak will jump Stepan when he actually jumps Stepan.

This. Dvorak needs to out perform Stepan. Hasn’t happened yet.

Once this happens, Stepan becomes an expensive 3C. Until then Stepan is our best center. If we get Duchene, Stepan is a #2 center. Yeah, that sucks. But it would be the best we can do.

 

[RemoAZ]

Stepan, Dvo, Richardson and Hayton would be the best 2-5 we've had at center that I can remember. I'd be thrilled with that. I don't know what you guys are talking about with Stepan. He'd be a solid #2. They are paying Dvo to develop into that #2 spot already but he'll have to prove it first. Until then I think we'd be fortunate with Stepan as the #2.

 

[cobra427]

Stepan, Dvo, Richardson and Hayton would be the best 2-5 we've had at center that I can remember. I'd be thrilled with that. I don't know what you guys are talking about with Stepan. He'd be a solid #2. They are paying Dvo to develop into that #2 spot already but he'll have to prove it first. Until then I think we'd be fortunate with Stepan as the #2.

I agree. Why get rid of Stepan even if we sign Duchene? He is still our best C, and would be #2 behind Duchene until proven otherwise. Cut cap elsewhere but not at C. If DVO and Hayton pass him next year, then its a different story. Nobody wanted or thought Richardson was still useful and look at the year he had. Stepan could bounce back in points a little next year. Other then PPG, he is solid in all 3 zones.

 

[_Del_]

Dvo is at 4.45 for six years. Hayton is on an ELC for at least three more years. Those are the only people that maybe pass Stepan (and/or Hayes).

Stepan's contract drops off the books at two years max. Richardson has a single year left at $1.125M, and would be eligible for a 35+ contract after this this.

It's a complete nonissue.

Zero reason not to add a center (or even two).

 

[Schemp]

Free up Stepan's $6.5M cap hit, while we still don't know if Galchenyuk will re-sign? Stepan can always play on the right wing if needed. I have thought about if the Wild would overpay for Stepan, and what the return would be.(moving up 2spots in the 1st round could be part of it).
We do have a pretty full roster, I'm expecting trades during the draft. Too bad we can't talk to free agents before the draft.

 

[Jamieh]

If the Coyote's sign a decent free agent center and extend Crouse there simply won't be any money left to fill out the roster. Someone not young playing on the 3rd or 4th lines for too much money will have to go. In a Cap NHL you really can't afford much more than $1.5 million average on 3rd and 4th lines if you have 1st line Cap hits. A 3rd pairing D at 4 million hit or a center at over 4 million makes it difficult to upgrade the wings for top 2 lines.

 

[moosemeister]

If the Coyote's sign a decent free agent center and extend Crouse there simply won't be any money left to fill out the roster. Someone not young playing on the 3rd or 4th lines for too much money will have to go. In a Cap NHL you really can't afford much more than $1.5 million average on 3rd and 4th lines if you have 1st line Cap hits. A 3rd pairing D at 4 million hit or a center at over 4 million makes it difficult to upgrade the wings for top 2 lines.

Get rid of Goligoski and Hossa. The money/cap issue is no longer an issue

 

[Jamieh]

Get rid of Goligoski and Hossa. The money/cap issue is no longer an issue

That was what I kinda said, but just Hossa won't do it and Goligoski controls his destiny.

 

[rt]

If the Coyote's sign a decent free agent center and extend Crouse there simply won't be any money left to fill out the roster. Someone not young playing on the 3rd or 4th lines for too much money will have to go. In a Cap NHL you really can't afford much more than $1.5 million average on 3rd and 4th lines if you have 1st line Cap hits. A 3rd pairing D at 4 million hit or a center at over 4 million makes it difficult to upgrade the wings for top 2 lines.

That more than enough for next season. The season after won’t be a problem as Hossa, Stepan, and Goligoski can go. That’s all twelve months away.

 

[Jamieh]

That more than enough for next season. The season after won’t be a problem as Hossa, Stepan, and Goligoski can go. That’s all twelve months away.

$13 million roughly available if we are talking Duchene and Crouse that leaves almost nothing for any other moves. I think you need to upgrade more upfront if you want to take the next step. The following season will only see money for our own free agents if you can get rid of the 3 mentioned.

 

[rt]

$13 million roughly available if we are talking Duchene and Crouse that leaves almost nothing for any other moves. I think you need to upgrade more upfront if you want to take the next step. The following season will only see money for our own free agents if you can get rid of the 3 mentioned.

There are no other moves. What the f*** are you talking about? You think we’re going to add Duchene and then add MORE?!?!? That’s absurd.

 

[Jamieh]

There are no other moves. What the **** are you talking about? You think we’re going to add Duchene and then add MORE?!?!? That’s absurd.

Can you either stop acting like an azz or ignore my posts. There have to be moves this year or next or we don't have enough players signed to form a roster. If the intent is to only resign our current roster players.....well frankly that won't be his enough.