Pre-Game Talk: Countdown thread to 24-25 Season (T - 17 days) - Main Camp

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Who's going to be the surprise of this camp ?

  • Beck

    Votes: 10 5.2%
  • Kapanen

    Votes: 106 54.6%
  • Heineman

    Votes: 3 1.5%
  • Mesar

    Votes: 15 7.7%
  • Engstrom

    Votes: 35 18.0%
  • Farrell

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Trudeau

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • F. Xhekaj

    Votes: 7 3.6%
  • Tuch

    Votes: 11 5.7%
  • Hughes

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Davidson

    Votes: 4 2.1%
  • Kidney

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    194

Adam Michaels

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Jun 12, 2016
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I don't mind anyone who doesn't hide from their takes, its just his are quite obviously made almost entirely out of spite.

Agreed. I know we have a knack of overselling our prospects. But he goes the complete other way and undersells them. It's like he is a contrarian.

I'll even go as far as giving McCagg credit, because he also puts his name and face on his opinions even if a lot of the time I don't agree with him. I think my biggest gripe with him was for the 2022 draft. He was always on team Slaf, but he was propping him up by pretty much shitting on Wright the whole way through. And I don't think he needed to disparage one prospect in order to prop up another one.

But Snake and McCagg are pretty much on the same boat for me. Respect the fact they don't hide behind their takes, but I don't always agree with them. I listen to both of their podcasts, as well as enjoy it when they're guests on Marinaro's podcast.
 

417

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Feb 20, 2003
52,130
29,561
Ottawa
Agreed. I know we have a knack of overselling our prospects. But he goes the complete other way and undersells them. It's like he is a contrarian.

I'll even go as far as giving McCagg credit, because he also puts his name and face on his opinions even if a lot of the time I don't agree with him. I think my biggest gripe with him was for the 2022 draft. He was always on team Slaf, but he was propping him up by pretty much shitting on Wright the whole way through. And I don't think he needed to disparage one prospect in order to prop up another one.

But Snake and McCagg are pretty much on the same boat for me. Respect the fact they don't hide behind their takes, but I don't always agree with them. I listen to both of their podcasts, as well as enjoy it when they're guests on Marinaro's podcast.
I think I understand why neither are working for nhl teams

They're dirtbags 😂
 

xX SEYF Xx

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Apr 5, 2022
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I think I understand why neither are working for nhl teams

They're dirtbags 😂
To be fair, I don't think nhl teams scouts have a much higher hit percentage neither, if they publically expressed them we would see their flaws
I'm in project management and risk mitigation, and that level of uncertainty for me is what nightmares are made of
Nhl teams take group decisions which might mitigate the risks a bit but those lone freelancers put their name and reputation at play with each and every opinion.
I like listening to what they have to say and take it as it is, an opinion, not the absolute truth, and yeah they have terrible takes sometimes and spot on other times
 
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MTL Dirty Birdy

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Agreed. I know we have a knack of overselling our prospects. But he goes the complete other way and undersells them. It's like he is a contrarian.

I'll even go as far as giving McCagg credit, because he also puts his name and face on his opinions even if a lot of the time I don't agree with him. I think my biggest gripe with him was for the 2022 draft. He was always on team Slaf, but he was propping him up by pretty much shitting on Wright the whole way through. And I don't think he needed to disparage one prospect in order to prop up another one.

But Snake and McCagg are pretty much on the same boat for me. Respect the fact they don't hide behind their takes, but I don't always agree with them. I listen to both of their podcasts, as well as enjoy it when they're guests on Marinaro's podcast.
I feel Laraque is on snakes level and McCagg a step up simply based on the fact that he actually calls truth from time to time. Laracque and Snake are the WORST for clickbait here in Montreal
 

417

BBQ Chicken Alert!
Feb 20, 2003
52,130
29,561
Ottawa
To be fair, I don't think nhl teams scouts have a much higher hit percentage neither, if they publically expressed them we would see their flaws
I'm in project management and risk mitigation, and that level of uncertainty for me is what nightmares are made of
Nhl teams take group decisions which might mitigate the risks a bit but those lone freelancers put their name and reputation at play with each and every opinion.
I like listening to what they have to say and take it as it is, an opinion, not the absolute truth, and yeah they have terrible takes sometimes and spot on other times
Its not about hit percentage. I'm well aware scouting is not an exact science and I don't listen to these guys with the expectations they're going to be right or wrong.

Its about not being a jackass. Don't publicly bury kids because you have an axe to grind with a segment of a fanbase.
 

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