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stewy04 said:
Hello just wondering what the cost would be on Oleksiak and what the Kraken are wanting in terms of players and picks.
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Kraken are looking for prospects that we can plug in to the roster in a year or two. But I do not think Oleksiak will cost much or be able to garner back anything more than a B- prospect.

If he does get traded, I am guessing it will be for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Atleast most Kraken fans don't value him very high. Can't say what the GM's think about a big D-man though. The TDL and FA are two times in the year the GM's go a little cuckoo.
 
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Fistfullofbeer said:
Kraken are looking for prospects that we can plug in to the roster in a year or two. But I do not think Oleksiak will cost much or be able to garner back anything more than a B- prospect.

If he does get traded, I am guessing it will be for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Atleast most Kraken fans don't value him very high. Can't say what the GM's think about a big D-man though. The TDL and FA are two times in the year the GM's go a little cuckoo.
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Do you think the Kraken would be open to retaining on Oleksiak? This would bring in a higher return. Or do you think they would rather trade him at a lower cost but moving on from his full contract?
 
Fistfullofbeer said:
Kraken are looking for prospects that we can plug in to the roster in a year or two. But I do not think Oleksiak will cost much or be able to garner back anything more than a B- prospect.

If he does get traded, I am guessing it will be for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Atleast most Kraken fans don't value him very high. Can't say what the GM's think about a big D-man though. The TDL and FA are two times in the year the GM's go a little cuckoo.
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If the cost is only a 2nd or 3rd round pick, I would hope the Oilers are in on him to pair with Nurse.
 
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McDoused said:
Do you think the Kraken would be open to retaining on Oleksiak? This would bring in a higher return. Or do you think they would rather trade him at a lower cost but moving on from his full contract?
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I certainly think so. At the end of the day it will come down to how many players Francis moves. He will likely retain on Gourde and Tanev. Maybe Oleksiak too. Isn't there a limit on how many players can be retained on?
 
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Fistfullofbeer said:
I certainly think so. At the end of the day it will come down to how many players Francis moves. He will likely retain on Gourde and Tanev. Maybe Oleksiak too. Isn't there a limit on how many players can be retained on?
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Yes, teams have 3 retention slots. Gourde and Tanev are UFAs, so retaining on them wouldn't be very costly as it won't impact Seattle's cap situation next year. However, Oleksiak would as he still has 1 year more year after this one. I could see a team paying something like a 5th round pick to have 600k retained and bring his cap hit down from 4.6M to an even 4M.
 
Could see him attached to a deal someone makes for McCann. He has a pretty rock solid NTC though but I’m sure he can be convinced. It would be one of those deals where a team is hesitant to give up a certain prospect, but says if they include Oleksiak, they’ll include that prospect for McCann.

On his own? A 2nd rounder with a decent prospect at best. He’s a good filler in a top 4 with an above average dman. Add him next to a star, he becomes more impactful, because he can play more of his game.

Think he can go somewhere and have an impact, if the team acquiring him needs to upgrade their Top 4 partners for their top Dmen. If a team is getting him to play more of an even role with a partner, not sure he’s making much of a difference.
 
Fistfullofbeer said:
I certainly think so. At the end of the day it will come down to how many players Francis moves. He will likely retain on Gourde and Tanev. Maybe Oleksiak too. Isn't there a limit on how many players can be retained on?
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3 but since Gorude and Tanev are UFA he would get 2 of those spots back at the end of the season.
 
I actually think he might be a Leaf target.

We know they want a depth D since Hakanpaa likely never plays again.

And we know Treliving wants a 6"7 230+ pound D man because he signed Hakanpaa
 
I know the GM has changed since the Jake McCabe trade, but maybe the Leafs deal significant futures for a heavily retained Oleksiak?

As a neutral fan, I think that trade was slick work.
 
NinjaTurtle said:
I know the GM has changed since the Jake McCabe trade, but maybe the Leafs deal significant futures for a heavily retained Oleksiak?

As a neutral fan, I think that trade was slick work.
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I don't think they would deal what they did for McCabe.

#1 McCabe came with a forward.

#2 McCabe had more term


#3 even at 50% retain Olesiak would still be 300k more expensive then McCabe was.

#4 McCabe is a better player.

#5 different GM

If it was Gourde and Olesiak maybe.

Not Olesiak alone
 
Fistfullofbeer said:
Kraken are looking for prospects that we can plug in to the roster in a year or two. But I do not think Oleksiak will cost much or be able to garner back anything more than a B- prospect.

If he does get traded, I am guessing it will be for a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Atleast most Kraken fans don't value him very high. Can't say what the GM's think about a big D-man though. The TDL and FA are two times in the year the GM's go a little cuckoo.
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I'd agree on cuckoo a lot more on FA than TD.

If you have a playoff bound team and think your team can make noise and can add a D with size and grit who can play regular minutes in your top 6 and improve the depth of your team through a playoff run that can be very valuable. There's a reason why lots of players go at a premium at the deadline.

I've liked Oleksiak in the past but I haven't seen enough of him in the last couple years where I could judge where he is today but he has size and physicality and experience. If his game is still good enough he could be a good add for a team. The idea when you buy someone with no term left is to go on a run and win. It usually doesn't happen but even the run can mean something just getting your team an idea of what it takes can make them better for it the next time.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
I don't think they would deal what they did for McCabe.

#1 McCabe came with a forward.

#2 McCabe had more term


#3 even at 50% retain Olesiak would still be 300k more expensive then McCabe was.

#4 McCabe is a better player.

#5 different GM

If it was Gourde and Olesiak maybe.

Not Olesiak alone
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I’d easily rather have Oleksiak than McCabe. Not even close.
 
LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
I don't think they would deal what they did for McCabe.

#1 McCabe came with a forward.

#2 McCabe had more term


#3 even at 50% retain Olesiak would still be 300k more expensive then McCabe was.

#4 McCabe is a better player.

#5 different GM

If it was Gourde and Olesiak maybe.

Not Olesiak alone
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Didn’t say the same package. Just similar premise of paying higher value in futures to have a heavily retained/discounted defenseman for 1.5 years.
 
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