GDT: Corvo want return a sens

[Boom Boom Apathy]

nvm...I’m an idiot and read the wrong row on NHL stats

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Luostarinen may not have the offensive upside as maybe a guy like Gauthier does, but he’s showing the coaches that he has what it takes to get a shot at the NHL. Smart player, good defensively, good along the boards and makes good reads on plays. Small sample, but if he keeps playing like this, he’s going to earn the trust of the coaches.

I don't know if he makes the team next year or the year after, but it's guys like him that keep our team depth strong if they need to trade, say, Wallmark, in a couple of years to free extra cap for Dougie and Svech.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I don't know if he makes the team next year or the year after, but it's guys like him that keep our team depth strong if they need to trade, say, Wallmark, in a couple of years to free extra cap for Dougie and Svech.

Hot take. Luostarinen will be an NHLr (at least with Carolina) before Gauthier.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Hot take. Luostarinen will be an NHLr (at least with Carolina) before Gauthier.

Too hot for my tastes. I still think Gauthier has the inside shot next season. I do think that Eetu will make it to our team full-time, but the extra few years of waiver exemptions will make him callup-fodder for a year or two IMO.

 

[tarheelhockey]

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Too hot for my tastes. I still think Gauthier has the inside shot next season. I do think that Eetu will make it to our team full-time, but the extra couple of years of waiver exemptions will make him callup-fodder for the time being.

What inside track? Every NHL winger on the team today (Svechnikov, TT, Nino, Dzingel, Foegele, Necas, Martinook, and McGinn are under contract for next year. I don’t see Gauthier beating any of those guys out, not to mention a potential top 9 guy they may get in a TVR/Fleury trade.

on the flip side, Wallmark is an RFA and Haula is a UFA with a bum knee so there might be a spot at center.

plus, Luostarinen looks like he can play effectively on the 4th line and I’m not sure that is the case with Gauthier.

It may not even be next year though that either of them makes it.

 

[DougieSmash]

Well, my GDT was success.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

What inside track? Every NHL winger on the team today (Svechnikov, TT, Nino, Dzingel, Foegele, Necas, Martinook, and McGinn are under contract for next year. I don’t see Gauthier beating any of those guys out, not to mention a potential top 9 guy they may get in a TVR/Fleury trade.

on the flip side, Wallmark is an RFA and Haula is a UFA with a bum knee so there might be a spot at center.

plus, Luostarinen looks like he can play effectively on the 4th line and I’m not sure that is the case with Gauthier.

Personally, I'm of the view that one of McGinn or Martinook are going to be traded next offseason (most likely McGinn; they may extend Marty if he keeps up his superior forechecking and leadership skills). Haula IMO will be extended, perhaps at a somewhat unexpectedly-reduced AAV due to the questions on the knee, a la Gardiner this offseason. There's only one RH shot in that entire wing group in Necas, and Gauthier can play a 3rd line role as well as be that right shot. That, along with Wallmark's likely 2-3 year extension, is why I see him making the team next year and not Eetu.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Personally, I'm of the view that one of McGinn or Martinook are going to be traded next offseason (most likely McGinn; they may extend Marty if he keeps up his superior forechecking and leadership skills). Haula IMO will be extended, perhaps at a somewhat unexpectedly-reduced AAV due to the questions on the knee, a la Gardiner this offseason. There's only one RH shot in that entire wing group in Necas, and Gauthier can play a 3rd line role as well as be that right shot. That, along with Wallmark's likely 2-3 year extension, is why I see him making the team next year and not Eetu.

Yeah, someone would have to be traded first (two people if they get a guy with term in a TVR/Fleury trade).

Haula is a weird situation. He was playing well enough to price himself out of Carolina to start the season, yet if his knee keeps acting up, the team may not want to risk it.

I’d love for Gauthier to earn it and make it though, just think the odds are against him.

the thing about the Dundon era though is nothing’s ever off the table. Either way, Luostarinen and Gauthier likely won’t be battling each other for a spot since they don’t play the same position.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Haula is a weird situation. He was playing well enough to price himself out of Carolina to start the season, yet if his knee keeps acting up, the team may not want to risk it.

Haula's knee issues actually help Carolina's case to keep him, in some ways, especially if his UFA market is depressed (or perceived to be depressed). If a team desperate for scoring depth like Edmonton is willing to grossly overpay anyways, Haula can easily go, of course, but if Haula can be locked up to a Gardiner-like pact (4 years/$4M) due to the knee, it would go a long way towards both building that arsenal of good-value contracts up-and-down the lineup and gradually transitioning Necas to 2nd/3rd line center.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Hot take. Luostarinen will be an NHLr (at least with Carolina) before Gauthier.

That is the hottest of hot takes, because it's already true.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Haula's knee issues actually help Carolina's case to keep him, in some ways, especially if his UFA market is depressed (or perceived to be depressed). If a team desperate for scoring depth like Edmonton is willing to grossly overpay anyways, Haula can easily go, of course, but if Haula can be locked up to a Gardiner-like pact (4 years/$4M) due to the knee, it would go a long way towards building that arsenal of good-value contracts up-and-down the lineup.

Depends. If his knee limits his play (ie he misses a lot of games) and the team thinks that’s an issue going forward, the team may decide the risk is too great at any cost, like Ferland. If it’s viewed as just another step in the recovery and he’ll be fine long term, it could help the AAV, as you suggest. Only time will tell.

I just hope he gets back on the ice soon and stays healthy, regardless of contract implications.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

That is the hottest of hot takes, because it's already true.

Ha ha. Yeah, I meant full time, regular NHLr. When Martinook and Haula get back, I assume he’ll be sent back down, barring other injuries.

 

[DougieSmash]

Necas quietly with 12 pts in the first 18 games of the season.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Necas quietly with 12 pts in the first 18 games of the season.

Tied for second in rookie scoring. I’ve been very impressed with his play. Hopefully he can stay stand up to the grind of a full season. He’s still just a little fella.

And apropos of nothing, but for whatever reason I was convinced that Edmunson is Swedish. But nope. He’s a good old Manitoba kid.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Ha ha. Yeah, I meant full time, regular NHLr. When Martinook and Haula get back, I assume he’ll be sent back down, barring other injuries.

One thing that I will say is that slowly introducing rookies into the lineup seems like the smart way to go. Put too many rookies and ELCs onto an otherwise contending roster and you get Toronto's little predicament where the stars play well but their depth is hot baby vomit, particularly on defense.

 

[My Special Purpose]

I also continue to feel pretty good about defending the decision to keep Necas over Gauthier. He's not all the way there yet, but he's looking pretty darn good.

Necas quietly with 12 pts in the first 18 games of the season.

Yeah, I came here to say that AA may have been underrating him with his comment. Necas is on pace for 18-36-54. If he manages that, ROY comes down to him and Makar. IMO, Necas has been better than hoped, production-wise.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

I AM... CONTENT.

THIS WAS SORELY NEEDED.

AND MY BOY EDDY SHOWING HE CAN PLAY BOTH THE PUCK AND THE PLAYER.

ALSO... PRETTY DUMB PLAY BY MRÁZEK ON FIRST OTTAWA GOAL, BUT HE DEFINITELY PICKED THE BEST TIME TO DO IT.

 

[zman77]

 

[NotOpie]

Hot take. Luostarinen will be an NHLr (at least with Carolina) before Gauthier.

That is the hottest of hot takes, because it's already true.

He already has more NHL points than Gauthier....and this from a Goat fan.

Man, I really like Luostarinen's game and I think he's got more offensive upside.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

Dougie Hamilton is tied with John Carlson for the lead in goals for a defenseman with 8! Also, Dougie is 2nd in points for a defenseman. In my opinion he has been our best player this year.

Heck of a game. So much fun to watch. Ottawa gave up in the 2nd so I don't put too much stock in the score but it sure was entertaining.

 

[Unsustainable]

Dougie: 8g, 11a, 19pts
Svech: 7g, 11a, 18pts

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Don't worry, Skinner will put up 8 all on his own. He still plays for us, right?

I'm surprised this didn't get the obligatory "And still be a -2" comment.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Speaking of Svech, the improvement in his defensive game and play away from the puck this year so far is quite impressive. There are numerous times a game where I notice him making the correct and a good play defensively. I think his defensive play last year was better than Necas's this year (albeit, some of that is because Svech is/was stronger and more physical), but if Necas can make a similar improvement next year, it's going to be fun to watch.

 

[emptyNedder]

Also, Dougie is 2nd in points for a defenseman. In my opinion he has been our best player this year.

Offensively—yes. And when he is scoring he seems more engaged on D. But during the losing streak he was below average defensively, much like early last season.
I would definitely agree Dougie makes the team better—but he has too many wtf moments. In other words if he is the Canes best player all season, the Canes are in trouble.