OT: Coronavirus XXI: School is Back in Session

[Dorian2]

Uh Im A Control System Engineer with my Red Seal In Electrical and Instrumentation as well as my 3rd Class

So you're a Power Engineer or Tech eh? You think that those credentials and the hours you work give you the right to call out others who have put just as much hard work and time into their own professions out or something? Especially if they might be in a situation where they happen to be out of work because of this shit? I'm an EET with my CET certification and a diploma in Music as well. Big f***ing deal. Step off the soapbox. Your lack of basic humility is pathetic.

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

Makes me wish we're living in the 70's right now.

Better times back then.

Ya but then we couldn’t talk online, which is way more fun and safe!

 

[nabob]

So you're a Power Engineer or Tech eh? You think that those credentials and the hours you work give you the right to call out others who have put just as much hard work and time into their own professions out or something? Especially if they might be in a situation where they happen to be out of work because of this shit? I'm an EET with my CET certification and a diploma in Music as well. Big f***ing deal. Step off the soapbox. Your lack of basic humility is pathetic.

Wait are saying that you think instrumentation is music related... or maybe it just read that way. The number of times I’ve been asked if I could fix someone’s piano or some other instrument is funny to me.

 

[Dorian2]

Wait are saying that you think instrumentation is music related... or maybe it just read that way. The number of times I’ve been asked if I could fix someone’s piano or some other instrument is funny to me.

What's this nonsense?

 

[MaxR11]

Decimate the economy even further. Brilliant.

Well, it sounded like that's where harpoon was going with his comments. I don't mind either way (Keep open or close) because I know there are too many dumb irresponsible people out there that would mess up these unessential privileges. I would like them all to be open if all people were being safe and following protocols.

 

[MaxR11]

So you're a Power Engineer or Tech eh? You think that those credentials and the hours you work give you the right to call out others who have put just as much hard work and time into their own professions out or something? Especially if they might be in a situation where they happen to be out of work because of this shit? I'm an EET with my CET certification and a diploma in Music as well. Big f***ing deal. Step off the soapbox. Your lack of basic humility is pathetic.

Ya, according to DaGap, you're a useless lazy nobody if you don't earn 6 figures and own a luxury vacation home in the sunbelt. Pompous. "If you have a non essential job you're the scum of the earth making money you don't deserve."

 

[MaxR11]

I miss going to the gym on a more regular basis, going out to eat, and just going out in general. I also certainly miss leaving this city for vacations that aren't just Edmonton or Vancouver.

With that said I certainly don't miss 2 hours of commute every day.


You know that just because you don't die doesn't mean there won't be any lasting effects, right?

Also in case you've been under a rock for the past half decade, our economy is already in the tank.

So tired of the bs economy excuse. You're right, it has been and would have been heading towards s*** even without the pandemic. Plus we're not even in a lockdown now. What would be worse for the economy right now is if we let cases rise out of control... then they will be forced to shutdown things.

There's no way to get back to normal now when the entire world views this as a threat and pandemic... the only way to maybe restore or get back to restoring the economy is if we just say f*** it, go back to complete normalcy and just deal with the virus like it was the cold or flu. This ain't happening anytime soon.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Wait are saying that you think instrumentation is music related... or maybe it just read that way. The number of times I’ve been asked if I could fix someone’s piano or some other instrument is funny to me.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Someone liked this to I will repost it;

it would be interesting to figure out what the costs are of staying open....if only to have a response to people saying "the cure cant be worse than the disease".

deaths.....broken health systems.....whatever labour implications there are of trying to work while the virus is clearly spreading and wreaking havoc.....ie. a decline in productivity? would you have people quitting? taking sick days? going to the ICU?

my opinion would be there is an obligation to try to manage a global health crisis......and the "economy" is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors anyway.

while i think its true that economic depression has its own health crisis its probably something that can be taken care of by a visit from Tony Robbins. there is no reason why losing your job/business/savings should hurt you to the point where you need medical attention. conversely, turning people away from the hospital while they choke to death on pneomonia is a pretty cut and dry problem.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Someone liked this to I will repost it;

it would be interesting to figure out what the costs are of staying open....if only to have a response to people saying "the cure cant be worse than the disease".

deaths.....broken health systems.....whatever labour implications there are of trying to work while the virus is clearly spreading and wreaking havoc.....ie. a decline in productivity? would you have people quitting? taking sick days? going to the ICU?

my opinion would be there is an obligation to try to manage a global health crisis......and the "economy" is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors anyway.

while i think its true that economic depression has its own health crisis its probably something that can be taken care of by a visit from Tony Robbins. there is no reason why losing your job/business/savings should hurt you to the point where you need medical attention. conversely, turning people away from the hospital while they choke to death on pneomonia is a pretty cut and dry problem.

trivializing mental health problems while saying made up things like: "turning people away from the hospital while they choke to death on pneomonia is a pretty cut and dry problem." is a terrible way to make a point

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

trivializing mental health problems while saying made up things like: "turning people away from the hospital while they choke to death on pneomonia is a pretty cut and dry problem." is a terrible way to make a point

not really......i mean thats where we are....

would you rather people choke to death or ....a lot of people be depressed.....

in a way weve made this choice.....already....we chose choke to death.

edit; and when we talk of trivializing....thing of someone you know....think of someone not in the internet....choking to death in front of you....its not really a hard choice.

 

[LaGu]

Is 0.2% the death rate, or total infected? We've learned from H1N1 that you can't watch cases, you need to watch the underlying numbers on hospitalizations, ICU admits, and deaths. Also with more testing and a 1% false positive rating cases will undoubtedly be higher.

The 1/6th of world population is also misleading, as most people who die of covid have a comorbidity. I haven't seen the stats on the number of people who were projected to die in the next 6 months, but I'm guessing that number would be relatively high.

0.2% of the entire population have passed from covid19 in 8 months here. In a region of 10M people. As I said, in a normal year maybe 0.6% pass away, that is a fairly normal projection.

I know that many were sick to begin with, but taking years off of a life is not something we should just dismiss. I know many people by now who have lost family and friends, people that mst have been old and fragile, but not really "close to death" fragile.

 

[nabob]

not really......i mean thats where we are....

would you rather people choke to death or ....a lot of people be depressed.....

in a way weve made this choice.....already....we chose choke to death.

Wait I thought you were saying the post you put up was bad...but you’re actually doubling down on it.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

not really......i mean thats where we are....

would you rather people choke to death or ....a lot of people be depressed.....

depression leads to many things....addiction, suicide deaths

in a way weve made this choice.....already....we chose choke to death.

we won't know for years the lasting effects the restrictions and lockdowns have had on people..so no, we haven't made this choice

and where is this "choke to death" nonsense coming from anyways?

 

[nabob]

Random question, sorry if it’s been asked.

when someone dies in Canada and they have Covid it is counted as a death due to Covid. Recently it was released that 94% of Covid deaths were not directly caused by Covid but by other serious underlying health issues.

When someone dies in Canada when they have the flu is it counted as a death due to the flu or are the deaths counted as whatever the underlying health issue was?

 

[nabob]

depression leads to many things....addiction, suicide and death


we won't know for years the lasting effects the restrictions and lockdowns have had on people..so no, we haven't made this choice

and where is this "choke to death" nonsense coming from anyways?

it’s one of the ways the media describes a Covid death. 94% of which aren’t deaths due to Covid but rather other health issues.

 

[LaGu]

Someone liked this to I will repost it;

it would be interesting to figure out what the costs are of staying open....if only to have a response to people saying "the cure cant be worse than the disease".

deaths.....broken health systems.....whatever labour implications there are of trying to work while the virus is clearly spreading and wreaking havoc.....ie. a decline in productivity? would you have people quitting? taking sick days? going to the ICU?

my opinion would be there is an obligation to try to manage a global health crisis......and the "economy" is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors anyway.

while i think its true that economic depression has its own health crisis its probably something that can be taken care of by a visit from Tony Robbins. there is no reason why losing your job/business/savings should hurt you to the point where you need medical attention. conversely, turning people away from the hospital while they choke to death on pneomonia is a pretty cut and dry problem.

I mean to be honest this is Italy in early March before they hit the panic button. A daily increase of 150 ICU patients per day (!) and 1500 new hospitalisations per day... Most of them in a region of 10M people, with the best health care in Italy. Lockdown or no, this was destroying society. The health care sector was overwhealmed in like a week.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

it’s one of the ways the media describes a Covid death. 94% of which aren’t deaths due to Covid but rather other health issues.

bottom line to be is if you're over the age of 70 (where 89% of the deaths have been in Alberta) and have any of the following 3 comorbidities (where 75% of deaths have had):
Diabetes, Hypertension, COPD, Cancer, Dementia, Stroke, Liver cirrhosis, Cardiovascular diseases (including IHD and Congestive heart failure), Chronic kidney disease, and Immuno-deficiency
than yes, you have a higher chance of death

otherwise, it's less deadly than the flu for people under 50

 

[CupofOil]

Haha. For real. Do people think they are 100% going to contract the virus if they travel through the states?

Seriously. I have to laugh at those freaking out about the thought of any Canadian daring to fly to the U.S. as if the U.S. is full of zombies walking around infecting people.
I live in New York City which was the epicenter of this virus from March-June, have been outside multiple times a day since about April, have been back to work part time since July working in midtown Manhattan and I'm fine as is everybody I know outside of a few who got COVID and are perfectly fine now.

Bottom line is, as long as you're practicing the protocols wearing the mask, washing hands, social distancing, who is anybody to tell you that you can't travel to places outside your country? This virus isn't going anywhere anytime soon and a vaccine (if it ever happens) won't change that. You have to make the decision to decide risk management for yourself, just don't be stupid and hold large gatherings without masks and social distancing. Be smart, be safe, live your life. The virus is serious but there's ways to live with it.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Funny right now that the Alberta Covid 19 Website is crashing.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

961 new cases
2,615 active cases
97 in Hospitals
13 in intensive care
286 Deaths

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

1,444 active cases in Edmonton Zone.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Close to 21,000 confirmed cases.

 

[harpoon]

0.2% of the entire population have passed from covid19 in 8 months here. In a region of 10M people. As I said, in a normal year maybe 0.6% pass away, that is a fairly normal projection.

It’s tragic, there’s no other way to say it. Folks living in those hard hit areas have my deepest sympathies. However, it’s not exactly right to extrapolate the numbers from those areas across the world. We all know there are problems with counting the covid deaths. Some countries are over counting, some are probably under counting. Example: Japan with an extremely high percentage of elderly people has recorded 1636 covid deaths against a population of 125 million. Pretty sure that’s nowhere near the figures you keep quoting. So I mean there are a lot of differences in the way regions handled this pandemic and there are a lot of different outcomes.

Measures taken by Japan against covid include - early closure of international flights (still mostly shut down), early closure of all schools (reopened in September), several months of ‘voluntary’ restrictions on domestic travel, a month or so of ‘shelter at home’, again voluntary, and temporary closure of bars, pubs and eating establishments - now reopened but with restricted seating and operating hours still in place.

 

[DaGap]

So you're a Power Engineer or Tech eh? You think that those credentials and the hours you work give you the right to call out others who have put just as much hard work and time into their own professions out or something? Especially if they might be in a situation where they happen to be out of work because of this shit? I'm an EET with my CET certification and a diploma in Music as well. Big f***ing deal. Step off the soapbox. Your lack of basic humility is pathetic.

Well actually my P.eng is in chemical, My steam ticket is a 3rd completed . And for the record It was responding to some one a few post up.

See I don't need to wave my credentials around But Im glad you got a chance to use your professional designations in a comment for no other reason then flashing your letter lmfao