OT: Coronavirus XXI: School is Back in Session

[Bryanbryoil]

How much do you charge for shipping?

For what? I can ship it for a small fee! Cadbury fruit and nut bars, Cheezies and Alberta beef are accepted in trade!

 

[Bryanbryoil]

me to the wife today. Do we need TP? Her, no. Me, we're buying it anyway.

I suspect as in with most this is kind of a rebound reaction to not trusting our supply networks. Once bitten, twice hoard. Seems a lot of people are so inclined now. Although we just bought 24 roles, not like we were buying several packages of the stuff.

Strangely the run is on paper towels this time. Not sure whats up with that. People making backyard moonshine paper towel sanitizer rolls? Or people just adapted to the texture and absorbency of it when they ran out of TP the last time...

Agreed, I stock up on all of the stuff that have runs on them when the shit hits the fan. Bottled water for work, TP, Paper Towels, canned goods, etc. I try not to go to Costco more than once every few months.

 

[bellagiobob]

For what? I can ship it for a small fee! Cadbury fruit and nut bars, Cheezies and Alberta beef are accepted in trade!

Trade you Kris Russell for Lysol wipes and warmer weather.

Edit: Cheezies aren't available on Maui? I actually didn't even know that the Hawkins Cheezies were a Canadian product till I was doing a Canadiana jigsaw puzzle this summer and they were on it.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Trade you Kris Russell for Lysol wipes and warmer weather.

Edit: Cheezies aren't available on Maui? I actually didn't even know that the Hawkins Cheezies were a Canadian product till I was doing a Canadiana jigsaw puzzle this summer and they were on it.

No deal!

Nope, no Old Dutch either. We do get Pierogies here at least thankfully. Thanks to our snowbirds from Canada coming here I'm sure!

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Hang in there bud. It's a cliche, but it really is 'take it a day at a time' now. Go wherever you think will make you happy. Having family around makes a huge difference in how enjoyable life is. Alberta has changed, and in a lot of ways not for the better, but for me it's still a great place to live. Every place has it's warts. When I get pissed off about all the negative things going on here, I hit pause, and think about all the great things that living here offers me. I've been spending a fair bit of time lately in Canmore, doing lots of hiking, etc. I absolutely love that town, especially the Spring Creek area. Just feel at home there. Part of me wishes I had moved there 30 years ago and raised our family there, but c'est la vie, things have turned out well for me, no regrets.

At what point will things get better in this province? IMO, Alberta has been going down hill economically for over 5 years now and with Covid-19 being an influence, it will end up taking likely 10 years or more to rebound.


It's mind blowing the prices of rent and housing when you know what's going on around you.

 

[bellagiobob]

At what point will things get better in this province? IMO, Alberta has been going down hill economically for over 5 years now and with Covid-19 being an influence, it will end up taking likely 10 years or more to rebound.


It's mind blowing the prices of rent and housing when you know what's going on around you.

Economically it's going to take a while to recover, for all the obvious reasons we all know. I guess I'm lucky being semi-retired and not looking for work. Feel bad for those that are out of work thru no fault of their own. But every Province has it's warts, even beautiful BC. I live there in the summers, and like most places it has it's pros and cons, but I'm always glad to get back to Alberta in the fall. It's home, and likely always will be for me.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Economically it's going to take a while to recover, for all the obvious reasons we all know. I guess I'm lucky being semi-retired and not looking for work. Feel bad for those that are out of work thru no fault of their own. But every Province has it's warts, even beautiful BC. I live there in the summers, and like most places it has it's pros and cons, but I'm always glad to get back to Alberta in the fall. It's home, and likely always will be for me.

10 years is much too long for those desperately trying to put Food on the Table and a Roof over their children's heads'.

For many the economy is taking far too long to recover and because of this they have no choice but to leave the province so they are able to keep providing for their loved ones.

 

[Frank the Tank]

No deal!

Nope, no Old Dutch either. We do get Pierogies here at least thankfully. Thanks to our snowbirds from Canada coming here I'm sure!

Send some Azeka's ribs to Chicago! The original recipe your old man acquired by bribing the lady that prepped them.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Calgary women going down a dark path in the economic downturn

 

[bellagiobob]

I have a bad feeling they'll be deliberate with any big restrictions. I think they want to give it at least 2-3 weeks to see how this voluntary restrictions they implemented for Edmonton will work out. We've shown to only disappoint in the last few months... not sure why they think Edmontonians will all of a sudden abide by voluntary regulations.

Big waste of time today with the voluntary restrictions announced today. The ones who haven't been following protocols aren't going to pay attention to these new ones.

 

[MaxR11]

Big waste of time today with the voluntary restrictions announced today. The ones who haven't been following protocols aren't going to pay attention to these new ones.

The time to have voluntary restrictions was a month or more ago when it was clear the trend wasn't going to back down. Then they could have easily by now or a couple weeks ago say, "well sh**, we gave you guys a chance to take it upon yourselves to lower the numbers, now we have to play hardball and reshutdown fun things like gyms, arenas, bars, resto and impose heavy fines for any type of gathering which i believe Quebec has now (no gathering at all, cant even invite people to your house in Quebec)". Which would be more to keep more responsible people from being exposed to those who don't follow protocols (if there's no place to go, people stay home, maybe work from home too and there'll be less exposure). Shutdowns suck but as this trend continues most govts would likely implement some... though who knows with Kenny and the UCP. Sounds like the City of Edmonton would have to play the bad guy and shut down city facilities at least and restrict travel in and out of etown as they mentioned.

Not sure how long they can keep having outbreaks at hospitals and senior's homes before they have enough. Many important health care workers are having to quarantine and not working in hospitals because of exposure. People with other ailments might die because of the shortage of staff. People who go in for routine surgery or other things may get exposed to covid in hospitals and die because their immune system may be compromised from the surgery etc.

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

The time to have voluntary restrictions was a month or more ago when it was clear the trend wasn't going to back down. Then they could have easily by now or a couple weeks ago say, "well sh**, we gave you guys a chance to take it upon yourselves to lower the numbers, now we have to play hardball and reshutdown fun things like gyms, arenas, bars, resto and impose heavy fines for any type of gathering which i believe Quebec has now (no gathering at all, cant even invite people to your house in Quebec)". Which would be more to keep more responsible people from being exposed to those who don't follow protocols (if there's no place to go, people stay home, maybe work from home too and there'll be less exposure). Shutdowns suck but as this trend continues most govts would likely implement some... though who knows with Kenny and the UCP. Sounds like the City of Edmonton would have to play the bad guy and shut down city facilities at least and restrict travel in and out of etown as they mentioned.

Not sure how long they can keep having outbreaks at hospitals and senior's homes before they have enough. Many important health care workers are having to quarantine and not working in hospitals because of exposure. People with other ailments might die because of the shortage of staff. People who go in for routine surgery or other things may get exposed to covid in hospitals and die because their immune system may be compromised from the surgery etc.

 

[kevy999]

Big waste of time today with the voluntary restrictions announced today. The ones who haven't been following protocols aren't going to pay attention to these new ones.

Then go hide in your basement . What the heck you expect when the average age of death is 84 years old in Alberta from this and almost all deaths are in old age homes. Want people to run away from other people and treat them like they have the plague?? What kind of stupid rules you want them to enforce over free citizens when we are far from emergency status??

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Then go hide in your basement . What the heck you expect when the average age of death is 84 years old in Alberta from this and almost all deaths are in old age homes. Want people to run away from other people and treat them like they have the plague?? What kind of stupid rules you want them to enforce over free citizens when we are far from emergency status??

 

[kevy999]

Just a lame attempt for sympathy. Looks like many people I have seen with the flu. I guess the facts hurt you. The average age of death is 84 in Alberta and most deaths in long term facilities. Those are facts!!! Why can't you address the facts instead of posting a video of a girl who we know nothing about coughing in a hospital bed . Like really??? What does that have to do with the actual stats of how it used very rare anyone healthy dies of this of any age. And the average age of death is 84 years old in Alberta. Heck even unhealthy people who get this, the majority are fine. Those are facts!!

 

[GretzkytoKurri9917]

Just a lame attempt for sympathy. Looks like many people I have seen with the flu. I guess the facts hurt you. The average age of death is 84 in Alberta and most deaths in long term facilities. Those are facts!!! Why can't you address the facts instead of posting a video of a girl who we know nothing about coughing in a hospital bed . Like really??? What does that have to do with the actual stats of how it used very rare anyone healthy dies of this of any age. And the average age of death is 84 years old in Alberta. Heck even unhealthy people who get this, the majority are fine. Those are facts!!

Go and tell Dr. Deena Hinshaw.

 

[kevy999]

Go and tell Dr. Deena Hinshaw.

She and other health or government leaders are only taking measures for show and ease the paranoid scared people's mind. Truth is this harmless virus to the vast majority will be with us seasonally like the flu. We learn to deal with it . Cases will go up and down all the times depending on season. When they mandated masks it was all for show and symbolism knowing cases go up and down mask or no mask. In fact our cases skyrocketed after masks got mandated. I don't have to tell Deena anything. We have no control over what government does. But I see the media and government have done a number on a few people here. Live your life, there is nothing to be afraid of. There are so many cancers and diseases and other serious conditions out there. Covid should be the least of anyone's concerns. Look at the damn stats and not the media.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Calgary women going down a dark path in the economic downturn

Pretty damn sad. These are unprecedented times in recent history.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

Another COVID lockdown will crush small businesses: Survey | Toronto Sun

"Kelly said he’s had 60,000 calls from small business owners since the pandemic started, twice as many as he’d get normally.
“And more than a handful came from owners considering suicide. They’re watching their life’s dream slip through their fingers,” Kelly said. “That’s how dark this has become.”

 

[Fourier]

Trade you Kris Russell for Lysol wipes and warmer weather.

Edit: Cheezies aren't available on Maui? I actually didn't even know that the Hawkins Cheezies were a Canadian product till I was doing a Canadiana jigsaw puzzle this summer and they were on it.

One of the truly great snack foods of all time by the way!

 

[Drivesaitl]

So the good news, and we can use some, is death rates in the apparent wave are down everywhere in Europe. All the countries getting a severe bounceback in cases are seeing far less deaths. Now this could be a temporal effect that some of those cases have not run their course yet, but it seems what is circulating is resulting in far less deaths. Globally this is a consistent pattern in countries that are seeing this wave a 2nd time. Even in Canada we are looking at around 30 deaths per day nationally on average and at peak of first wave we were looking at around 170 deaths per day.

US also with far less daily deaths than they were seeing at peak. Around 650 now compared to peak average of around 22oo. This is very significant pattern. Again the pattern is any country in a 2nd wave is seeing profoundly reduced deaths. This in count numbers and in rate per cases or rate per population.

Countries seeing this the first time are not following this pattern.

From a layman pov what this suggests is areas that have been exposed to this virus since last winter or spring have possibly some developing immunity to dying from this. I mean in time it gets in everything. Deactivated cells are in our sewage run off, water supply, air, probably our food chain by now. Exposure to deactivated virii is known to produce some immunity and indeed is what a lot of vaccines are historically composed of.

Now the uncertain part is whether Edmonton area really had enough exposure in first wave to even really have that effect here. In other words Edmonton is going through either a first or second wave now. But optimistically the Canadian death rates now from covid suggest we are in the less lethal 2nd stage of this pandemic. The numbers over the next week or two will tell us a lot.

 

[harpoon]

Then go hide in your basement. What kind of stupid rules you want them to enforce over free citizens when we are far from emergency status??

As loathe as I am to agree with someone who has consistently taken such a cavalier attitude to this pandemic, I can’t help but agree with some of these sentiments. There’s no need for restrictive lockdown policies. Just stop with that talk. Stay away from poorly ventilated areas where large groups congregate. Wash/sanitize your hands after touching things in public space. Wear a mask. Go on with your life. It’s a tough reality that some people are going to get sick and an extremely small percentage of those are going to pass away. If you think the world economy can survive another comprehensive lockdown you are in the dreamer category. Let’s all get a grip and try to look at things rationally. If lockdowns really worked this pandemic would already be under control. They don’t, so let’s stop pretending that they do. I can’t believe we have people on here calling for the government to enforce strict measures against a civilian population that is already struggling to pay their basic bills without handouts from the government. Are lockdowns even legal? I’m no lawyer, but I suspect they most likely are not. Anyone who wants to lockdown is not being stopped from hiding in their basement as kevy suggests above. If anyone is really that worried ... it’s a step they should maybe consider.

 

[joestevens29]

Was in Costco Tuesday afternoon, and not a sign of TP, paper towels or kleenex. Looks like the hoarders are back, or maybe I just picked the wrong day to go. Probably wise to load up for the winter before the shit really hits the fan here.

I really don't know how people run out of toilet paper. I have two bathrooms. Each one has a pack in it. When one back is empty I go with a few days to buy another. I guess there is that perfect storm potential where I run out in both bathrooms at the same time, but it doesn't really seem to be that much of an issue to find. I then have those spare rolls in each of my hunting, golf, fishing bags to go with a roll in the vehicle and some in my camping tote.

If I run out completely, I will only have myself to blame when I have to use a sock

 

[joestevens29]

me to the wife today. Do we need TP? Her, no. Me, we're buying it anyway.

I suspect as in with most this is kind of a rebound reaction to not trusting our supply networks. Once bitten, twice hoard. Seems a lot of people are so inclined now. Although we just bought 24 roles, not like we were buying several packages of the stuff.

Strangely the run is on paper towels this time. Not sure whats up with that. People making backyard moonshine paper towel sanitizer rolls? Or people just adapted to the texture and absorbency of it when they ran out of TP the last time...

I know a lot of people that just quit buying the wipes as prices were going up. They've started buying some sort of spray and make your own.

We have sanitizer for sale just about everywhere here so that is caught up and then some. Lately we have been finding disinfectant wipes and even Lysol at Target.

It's everywhere that I go. I've seen it at some liquor stores, cigar shops, corner stores etc... Superstore has so much and so many different kinds now. It's gotten to the point where there are so many different companies trying to cash in that it seems like there is an endless supply now.

 

[joestevens29]

At what point will things get better in this province? IMO, Alberta has been going down hill economically for over 5 years now and with Covid-19 being an influence, it will end up taking likely 10 years or more to rebound.


It's mind blowing the prices of rent and housing when you know what's going on around you.

The sad thing is going into the year and early on there was some early optimism in the Oil field. Soon as Covid hit that was it for that optimism