Cont'd - NHL makes 12-year/$5.2 billion Canadian TV deal w/ Sportsnet, CBC, TSN out

[Warden of the North]

not really. I hate the guys on sportsnet. the broadcasters on tsn owns SN and always will. the intermission guys do also. you can add as much glitz and glamour as you want, but hte guys we hear and watch make a massive difference.

Rogers will just hire them

 

[MotorMaster]

Rogers will just hire them

Exactly what is going to happen.

 

[Tirefire]

Noooooooooooooo! No no no no no! I do NOT want to watch Hazel Mae, Nick Kypreos, Bob McGowan, Bill Watters, Gord Stellick, Darren Millard that idiot Gene Principe and the host of other Rogers Sportsnet Kast of Klowns.

If your taking ****ing hockey then hire the entire TSN broadcast crew and PLEASE - Jennifer Hedger - hire her NOW and boot Hazel Mae to the curb. And Dutchy, grab him while your there.

 

[The CyNick]

not really. I hate the guys on sportsnet. the broadcasters on tsn owns SN and always will. the intermission guys do also. you can add as much glitz and glamour as you want, but hte guys we hear and watch make a massive difference.

You are assuming the exact same guys who work for Rogers will be the only guys doing games come Oct 1st.

John Madden worked for a bunch of different networks in the US. Chris Cuthbert and Brian Williams ended up at TSN. These guys can easily move around.

Rogers has the big carrot, they can lure pretty much any talent they want.

 

[Macman]

I agree with this. Very sad when the day comes that Canadians will have to pay for Cable to see Hockey, no more "free TV" / CBC on rabbit ears...I watched the Habs in the late '60's and all the '70's on a black and white 12" TV....and now people are complaining if they can't their game on HD....Give me a break. $50-$150 for Cable!!! On welfare / Canada Pension? Students?

HNIC on the CBC is worth subsidizing if my vote is there.

Sad. We are losing our soul guys

If you're watching HNIC with an antenna now, you'll still be able to do it next year.

 

[Jonas1235]

Interesting, when does this start? Like I said I haven't seen a Leafs regional game on TSN in years.

TSN currently takes 10 regional Leafs games when the schedule comes out and makes them national. So I'm guessing that becomes 26 in 2015 as is currently scheduled.

It's regional to national.

 

[MarkGio]

As a taxpayer, I just dont want to fund the CBC. I can get mediocre TV in other places.

There are a wide variety of stories out there about how profitable or not profitable HNIC was for CBC. You dont know the real numbers, neither do I. Dont play this game with me that you have access to the real numbers. We both know you dont.

Sports right fees are now big business, if CBC cant hack it, then they shouldn't be in the game. If their other shows dont drive a profit, then start fundraisers to get money. But dont ask the taxpayer to pay.

You do know CBC is involved in other things, don't you?

Whistleblowing, documentaries, radio, original films, community work, investigating people problems, and so forth.

Hell I listen to CBC every morning just to get decent traffic reporting every 10 minutes.

 

[BlamBlam]

As long as the talent at TSN migrates over its not a complete loss. No more blackouts is awesome though. Makes Gamecenter slightly better.

 

[Macman]

Noooooooooooooo! No no no no no! I do NOT want to watch Hazel Mae, Nick Kypreos, Bob McGowan, Bill Watters, Gord Stellick, Darren Millard that idiot Gene Principe and the host of other Rogers Sportsnet Kast of Klowns.

If your taking ****ing hockey then hire the entire TSN broadcast crew and PLEASE - Jennifer Hedger - hire her NOW and boot Hazel Mae to the curb. And Dutchy, grab him while your there.

I found the giddiness of the Sportsnet on-air types
over today's news kind of amusing. They should be worried. A company paying billions for hockey isn't going to think twice about turfing a Millard or Kypreos if they decide they want Duthie and McKenzie.

 

[zytz]

I'll be honest Im not in the loop on the business side of things, but I am curious what sort of impact this deal has on the total amount of revenue league-wide? I feel like this deal brings in a good deal more cash, doesn't it?

 

[karnige]

You are assuming the exact same guys who work for Rogers will be the only guys doing games come Oct 1st.

John Madden worked for a bunch of different networks in the US. Chris Cuthbert and Brian Williams ended up at TSN. These guys can easily move around.

Rogers has the big carrot, they can lure pretty much any talent they want.

long as these guys on TSN aren't under a contract which prohibits them to jump ship i'll be happy

 

[Jonas1235]

With the digital opportunities that Rogers has and how much they'll promote the hell out of the NHL in Canada, NHL network revamp etc. I think this could add 300-400 million a year to the NHL's bottom line, to what they already have.

 

[karnige]

I'll be honest Im not in the loop on the business side of things, but I am curious what sort of impact this deal has on the total amount of revenue league-wide? I feel like this deal brings in a good deal more cash, doesn't it?

hugeeee. something like 14 million more per team now revenue wise. a little more for canadian teams which means a cap increase definitely. this deal helps smaller markets so much be able to turn a profit

 

[Tirefire]

I found the giddiness of the Sportsnet on-air types
over today's news kind of amusing. They should be worried. A company paying billions for hockey isn't going to think twice about turfing a Millard or Kypreos if they decide they want Duthie and McKenzie.

You pegged it. Any on air talent at Sportsnet (and I use the word "talent" liberally) remotely associated with hockey and hilite shows better be watching thier six. Dutchy and Hedger for the hilite shows, grab McKenzie, Duthie and whomever else for the Hockey related shows and Gord Millar.

Please God don't make us watch ****iing Gene Principe and Nick Kypreos. Please!

 

[zytz]

hugeeee. something like 14 million more per team now revenue wise. a little more for canadian teams which means a cap increase definitely. this deal helps smaller markets so much be able to turn a profit

OK- I mean it sounded like a much bigger deal than the previous ones, so this is kinda what I was thinking/hoping for- I guess I was anticipating some complication to it.

can we expect a similar deal when it comes time for the US negotiations?

 

[RTN]

All of Rogers TV is pretty bush league (sportsnet, citytv, etc.)

 

[Tirefire]

All of Rogers TV is pretty bush league (sportsnet, citytv, etc.)

An understatement. . They plain SUCK.

 

[Caeldan]

"the agreement guarantees that there will be no further regionalization of games or local blackouts"

No Further can just mean that they won't increase (so no creating SNET Leafs, SNET Canucks, etc and shunting games off on those just to force you to buy additional regional specialty channels)... As opposed to eliminating them entirely. If they were planning on eliminating -- they would have come out and said that all games would be available nationally as that would generate good press about the deal.

I think GCL is gonna get screwed over next year. It'll either be tied to a mobile account (with some inane 10h limit, no wi-fi usage, $5/h overage), have significantly reduced number of games available due to more national game nights (there's going to be what, 4 nights a week with multiple national games now?) or if they change it to include in-market viewers and do away with blackouts, the cost is going to skyrocket.

 

[Habsawce]

Or the exact reverse.

CBC gets $1B a year from taxpayers now, and the numbers being floated by the Post are that half of its $400M in ad revenue, or $200M, comes from NHL hockey.

So the taxpayer gets further shafted. Now their expenses also go down, since they don't pay NHL rights or the cost to produce the broadcasts, but from what I am reading it's still a net loss to the CBC's bottom line.....and we pick up the tab.

Thank you very much. I was beginning to fear that no one was thinking about the political implications of this deal. The fact is, we have a public entity providing income for a PRIVATE enterprise. This is against everything crown corporations are built on. The sad part is we have a regulatory agency sitting on their hands and elected officials who have said nothing, mind you it's still early but this is startling thus far.

This monopoly can have some major ramifications for the Canadian public and people are being wowed by the promise of more hockey on television? What about the people who don't watch hockey and will have tax dollars leaving other needed areas to fund the CBC (not oging to close it down). Also, if Rogers loses money on this deal they are going to increase fees for communication services which will inflate the market and cost everyone more money.

 

[go_leafs_go02]

Sportsnet just spent the first 9 minutes of their Sportsnet Connected gloating and being giddy of the deal.

 

[Habsawce]

As a taxpayer, I just dont want to fund the CBC. I can get mediocre TV in other places.

There are a wide variety of stories out there about how profitable or not profitable HNIC was for CBC. You dont know the real numbers, neither do I. Dont play this game with me that you have access to the real numbers. We both know you dont.

Sports right fees are now big business, if CBC cant hack it, then they shouldn't be in the game. If their other shows dont drive a profit, then start fundraisers to get money. But dont ask the taxpayer to pay.

So we should just have a public entity provide profits to a private enterprise? Nostalgia is goign to be prove very costly and problematic for Canadians. If we're going to have to pay more tax dollars to keep CBC Id rather it not make a profit for rogers.

 

[Caeldan]

If you're watching HNIC with an antenna now, you'll still be able to do it next year.

The negativity from Canadians on this definitely amuses me. More options, more games available, HNIC not killed off, but "Rogers has a high school broadcast, this is crap!"

It's actually less options - since it's one single company controlling it all. And HNIC is effectively dead. In 4 years it'll be gone from CBC. Starting next year it'll be a shell of itself (and I don't even know why CBC is agreeing to it? They're basically giving control of their channel to Rogers for 6 hours a week).

I'd rather CBC get into producing HNIC quality games for the CHL (or some other amateur sports on Saturday nights). Imagine Don Cherry getting back to his roots and running a proper coaches corner again, talking about how this or that play could have been improved?!

 

[MarkGio]

hugeeee. something like 14 million more per team now revenue wise. a little more for canadian teams which means a cap increase definitely. this deal helps smaller markets so much be able to turn a profit

Yeah but player salaries are tied to a deal like this, so ultimately we'll see increases in wages

 

[SickHandsNoShot]

I do find it amusing that alot of people are complaining about Sportsnet's quality. Just for the fact that the large majority of us would watch a fuzzy, Russian translated streaming, on a virus filled website to watch our team play if thats all we had...

 

[Confucius]

OK- I mean it sounded like a much bigger deal than the previous ones, so this is kinda what I was thinking/hoping for- I guess I was anticipating some complication to it.

can we expect a similar deal when it comes time for the US negotiations?

U. S. deal still has 9 more years to go before renewal. Who knows what will be then.