Conspiracy Theorists has now crawled into the NHL?

[Pizza!Pizza!]

reading the playoff threads....some conspiracy posters are feeling validated right now, while new conspiracy posters have been created....

 

[Love]

There’s no conspiracy in the NHL. Now if you wanna talk about the NBA in the early 2000s… that’s a whole different thing.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

What is it with the mass amount of people that actually think, yes they sincerely believe, that Gary Bettman and the NHL have arranged the Oilers incredible comeback to force a Game 7....How in the world could this be arranged??? Does Bettman go and tell Paul Maurice, after being up 3-0, to instruct Barkov, Tkachuk and Bobrovsky to purposely lose the next 3? Does he call the referees before Game 4 and tell them to call everything against the Panthers but don't make it too obvious? Can we please keep these conspiracy theories that exist everywhere else in today's society away from our beloved NHL....

You should probably go talk to Bet365, BettmanKings, BettingForKids, BettingBeatsCancer364 etc etc.

Nah, it's all fair play for sure. Stop it with the tin foil hat stuff right?

 

[Devonator]

Yes sadly even conspiracies have crept into Hockey...if I had a nickel for every time people thought the refs were against their particular team....or that Bettman has had it arranged these last 30 or more years to have only US Teams win....honestly....very silly and childish stuff....

 

[hangman005]

The oilers coming back from 3-0 to force game 7 and then losing game 7 is how I would have run the conspiracy if I were in charge.

 

[Dirty Dan]

The oilers coming back from 3-0 to force game 7 and then losing game 7 is how I would have run the conspiracy if I were in charge.

Game 4-6 felt completely different to 7, Florida looked completely different in terms of defense

 

[hangman005]

Game 4-6 felt completely different to 7, Florida looked completely different in terms of defense

I stopped replacing the water with vodka... simple fix

 

[Dirty Dan]

I stopped replacing the water with vodka... simple fix

I replaced water with Vodka for game 7

 

[colchar]

If there were no draft, and if there were relegation, Canadian teams would be winning all the time

The draft started in '63, plenty of Canadian teams have won since then.

 

[Overrated]

The draft started in '63, plenty of Canadian teams have won since then.

Montreal still cheated the system for a while by monopolizing the French players. And of course it takes a while to turn great teams into shit teams. The salary cap finished the jobs by preventing rich teams like Montréal Canadiens or Toronto Maple Leafs from buying top players.

 

[Lshap]

Montreal still cheated the system for a while by monopolizing the French players. And of course it takes a while to turn great teams into shit teams. The salary cap finished the jobs by preventing rich teams like Montréal Canadiens or Toronto Maple Leafs from buying top players.

Montreal never monopolized french players. A perfect example of a conspiracy that existed in people's imaginations, not reality.

 

[Overrated]

Montreal never monopolized french players. A perfect example of a conspiracy that existed in people's imaginations, not reality.

OK it was not exactly like that but they still retained a certain advantage as described here:
https://www.thesuburban.com/sports/...cle_4bb8e2f4-77f6-5729-b2ab-911893fd5b7b.html

Nevertheless my point stands. Both the draft and the salary cap hurts the richest teams (which are largely Canadian) that would otherwise have a much easier time making cup winning lineups.

 

[Lshap]

OK it was not exactly like that but they still retained a certain advantage as described here:
https://www.thesuburban.com/sports/...cle_4bb8e2f4-77f6-5729-b2ab-911893fd5b7b.html

Nevertheless my point stands. Both the draft and the salary cap hurts the richest teams (which are largely Canadian) that would otherwise have a much easier time making cup winning lineups.

The only advantage Montreal had was being smarter. Their GM came up with the idea of farm teams, which of course allowed them to find and eventually sign players in the first half of the century, at a time when any teenager was fair game to be signed by any team. Once the NHL implemented the draft, the network Montreal built became obsolete, and with it their visionary advantage. It is a good story which, unfortunately, became twisted into the conspiracy myth that Montreal was gifted their star french players.

I agree with you that the cap keeps the richest teams from dominating. However, aside from Toronto and Montreal, most of the richest teams are American. Canadian teams still have a disadvantage, mostly about location and media pressure.

 

[RickyLafleur]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1802759244921352297

What did he say verbatim? Sounds interesting

 

[Matty Sundin]

It’s common human behaviour for idiots which you’ll find a lot of on the internet. We live in a world where people think the earth is flat and a lot of other stupid things not even sports related that I can’t mention here due to forum rules.

People like to be victimized and find excuses. It’s also a tool people use to feel special that they “know something” out there without showing any proof other then some crazy person on YouTube said so. The league being against certain teams, rigging games is really not the dumbest conspiracy theory out there so it’s not surprising it finds it way into sports.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

OK it was not exactly like that but they still retained a certain advantage as described here:
https://www.thesuburban.com/sports/...cle_4bb8e2f4-77f6-5729-b2ab-911893fd5b7b.html

Nevertheless my point stands. Both the draft and the salary cap hurts the richest teams (which are largely Canadian) that would otherwise have a much easier time making cup winning lineups.

Most of the Canadian teams are mid or bottom of the league as far as value and revenue.

 

[Overrated]

The only advantage Montreal had was being smarter. Their GM came up with the idea of farm teams, which of course allowed them to find and eventually sign players in the first half of the century, at a time when any teenager was fair game to be signed by any team. Once the NHL implemented the draft, the network Montreal built became obsolete, and with it their visionary advantage. It is a good story which, unfortunately, became twisted into the conspiracy myth that Montreal was gifted their star french players.

I agree with you that the cap keeps the richest teams from dominating. However, aside from Toronto and Montreal, most of the richest teams are American. Canadian teams still have a disadvantage, mostly about location and media pressure.

Sure but you'd have at least two super teams. Since many of the best players in the world are also Canadian there is a high likelihood they'd rather represent a Canadian team. Montreal would continue to be one of the favorites every single season like it was in the old days.

 

[Overrated]

Most of the Canadian teams are mid or bottom of the league as far as value and revenue.

Ranked: Which NHL Team Takes Home the Most Revenue?

The Oilers are the second-highest earning team in the NHL and the Panthers are 26th. We show the top teams in the NHL by revenue in 2023.

www.visualcapitalist.com

In terms of revenue there are 3 Canadian teams in the top5. Similar in terms of valuation. Yes there are some poorer Canadian teams like the Jets or the Senators but it's obvious that the Maple Leafs and the Canadiens would become super teams under different more competitive and fair rules.

 

[Lshap]

Sure but you'd have at least two super teams. Since many of the best players in the world are also Canadian there is a high likelihood they'd rather represent a Canadian team. Montreal would continue to be one of the favorites every single season like it was in the old days.

Most UFAs prefer to sign with American teams. When it comes to their NHL careers, Canadian players haven't shown any loyalty to Canadian markets.

 

[Overrated]

Most UFAs prefer to sign with American teams. When it comes to their NHL careers, Canadian players haven't shown any loyalty to Canadian markets.

Didn't Bedard say his favorite team growing up were the Canucks? If he got a hot deal from them don't you think he'd not choose them over the Hawks?

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Ranked: Which NHL Team Takes Home the Most Revenue?

The Oilers are the second-highest earning team in the NHL and the Panthers are 26th. We show the top teams in the NHL by revenue in 2023.

www.visualcapitalist.com

In terms of revenue there are 3 Canadian teams in the top5. Similar in terms of valuation. Yes there are some poorer Canadian teams like the Jets or the Senators but it's obvious that the Maple Leafs and the Canadiens would become super teams under different more competitive and fair rules.

This is not a credible source, Oilers are not #2 in league revenue. New Jersey ahead of Boston, Chicago, last years Cup Champs and Philly?

 

[Overrated]

This is not a credible source, Oilers are not #2 in league revenue. New Jersey ahead of Boston, Chicago, last years Cup Champs and Philly?

Well it's sourced:
This graphic shows every NHL team’s revenue from the 2022/23 season using data from Forbes, compiled by JP Morgan Asset Management.

Edmonton has had a massive growth over the past 5 years. 13% annually according JP Morgan.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

Well it's sourced:
This graphic shows every NHL team’s revenue from the 2022/23 season using data from Forbes, compiled by JP Morgan Asset Management.

Edmonton has had a massive growth over the past 5 years. 13% annually according JP Morgan.

Yeah and they did a poor job of compiling that data.

 

[WildWingz68JAGR]

Most of the time; conspiracys

There’s no conspiracy in the NHL. Now if you wanna talk about the NBA in the early 2000s… that’s a whole different thing.

NBA is blatantly rigged to this day. Literally refs discretion all day. They make up calls and fouls. The consistency is laughable. NHL though. Game 6. That isn't offside. Yeah it was off by half a mm. But it didnt give them an advantage on the goal..

 

[cbcwpg]

There is no conspiracy, but if there ever was a league to successfully pull it off, it would be the NHL. Their reffing is generally so incompetent that bad calls happen all the time, so if you threw in a few more bad calls to tilt the games, people would just see it as normal NHL reffing.