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Not according to the numbers I saw but it’s quite possible that those numbers are in error. Still, nothing in this thread is nearly as clueless as your ridiculous overvaluations of McDavid.
Well, as McDavid is the best player in the league and is only 21 years old. If you think my valuation of him is off feel free to tweet anyone as TSN or ESPN and ask them what he'd get in a trade.
Edit: Edmonton Oilers Overall average attendance 98.2 %
Colorado 92.3%
ESPN 2018-2019 NHL Attendance - National Hockey League - ESPN
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yababy
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It's a business, and TBAY is not doing very well on that side. Talk to me about how well Lightning are doing when they're selling out the building at avg ticket prices over $200
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yababy
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Unlike Edmonton we sell out every game. The best gate attraction is winning.
I bet Edmonton has 2x the operating revenue due to ticket sales and merchandise.
Why do you think Bruce McNall paid millions for Gretzky. Bringing in the marquee star of the league is an investment in your business.
What do you think an owner would prefer, an extra 5m a year in profit or a Stanley Cup. Try not to give me a naive answer
If Connor McDavid is able to make bottom-6 wingers look like 1st-line talent, then you keep him & trade Leon Draisaitl &/or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Oilers most likely have to "lose" a few trades that make them a better team; like trading for a package of cheap middle-6 wingers, and cost-controlled/elc players (that hopefully McDavid can elevate into 1st-liners). Can't be paying him 12.5mill to play w/ 6-8.5mill/year wingers. And cannot allocate 36.1mill into 5 forwards, esp. when 9mill is for Lucic & Spooner.
dahrougem2
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Lmao. Yeah, I like McDavid, but that's an insane over payment. Draisaitl would have to be going with McDavid in that trade.
AlphaCatalyst
Elite Fan
McDavid is good. The best right now, but not by enough to get that return. That is so one sided in Edmonton's favour, way too much.
KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
It looks cute on paper, but Colorado would not win a cup after that kind of trade. The Avs would have absolutely no depth going and its defense would still be a mess.
dahrougem2
Registered User
The Avs are a playoff team today with one line. McDavid on his own is another line. Sending the MacKinnon line out for 21 minutes per night, and then McDavid for 21 minutes per night, is depth.
Superlative Soup
Lights too bright
I’m a Tampa Bay Lightning fan - our attendance is 100%. So your frankly embarrassing attempt to attack my team’s attendance figures in order to distract from your inability to provide an intelligent rationale for why the best team in the league would massively overpay for a player they have zero need for has failed as well.
Considering the goodwill he generated in the area through his ownership of the Lightning has helped lead to a multi-billion dollar redevelopment deal of downtown Tampa, frankly I don’t think he gives a damn about an extra $5M a year coming from his hockey team.
McDavid is simply an amazing player. But, if some team was dumb enough to put together a Philadelphia type package that it took to get Lindros....they’d have to take it.
First of all the fact that you’ve steered the discussion in this direction to distract from the fact that we don’t need your player and have zero reason to overpay for him is quite frankly nothing short of embarrassing.
Second, if you really want to go there operating revenue means absolutely nothing without also knowing costs, taxes, etc. I’d bet ours are significantly lower so the fact that we can go to games for a lot less than you can proves nothing with regard to how the two teams are performing financially.
Third, year to year net revenue means next to nothing to a pro sports owner - it’s the valuation of the franchise relative to when he bought it that really matters. And Vinik has grown the value of the Lightning more in terms of both dollars per year and rate of return than Katz has that of the Oilers.
And finally, as I mentioned earlier the Lightning served as an inroads for Vinik to land a multi-billion dollar redevelopment deal of downtown Tampa. So a piddly $5M a year from higher-priced tickets is chump change to him.
Is that answer non-naive enough for you?
oXo Cube
Power Play Merchant
We get it, Tampa Bay doesn't want McDavid.
You can leave the thread to those who are interested in actual discussion now.
First of all I don’t take orders from the likes of you.
Second the discussion is about what a team would be willing to pay for McDavid; I’m refuting the notion that we would be willing to massively overpay to get him. That is indeed discussion of the topic at hand - you not liking my position doesn’t change that fact.
Finally I don’t know why people today can’t handle dissenting opinions and feel the need to isolate themselves from them, but if that’s what you want then YOU can leave the thread.
oXo Cube
Power Play Merchant
But you aren't refuting anything. You're just throwing a fit over unrelated financials nonsense for some reason.
If you think McDavid is worth less to your team than others do, cool that's your opinion but i'd be interested in what that offer actually is.
The other guy brought up the unrelated financials stuff; I’m just refuting his points there as well. Saying someone is “throwing a fit” doesn’t make it so - it just makes you look like a fool for trying to “win” an argument via nonsensical ad hominem attacks.
And I already posted the max offer I’d make for McDavid. Until we know what Point will sign for the most I’d offer would be Stamkos plus one of our ~$5M wingers. The deal would be cap-neutral so it wouldn’t cost us depthwise (beyond the winger we’d be moving) and it wouldn’t weaken us defensively, and given the ages of the players involved we’d at least be better off in the long run if not necessarily in the short term. That obviously doesn’t get it done and I said as much myself, but there’s no way we trade Kuch or Hedman and unless he signs a massive deal I wouldn’t trade Point as well. The goal is to put together the best possible team under the salary cap and elite players who cost a few to several million less than McDavid are simply more valuable to achieving that goal. It’s not about the performance of a single player - it’s about performance per cap dollar spent and our top players are bargains in that regard.
Dumb thread followed by even dumber proposals that don't even include most teams best player and several +'s but that's par for the course at this place.
Stepping unto the shows of the Jets:
Scheifele
Laine
2nd
Should be close value. However, if Laine busts it out as he has done recentely, it could be a blowout.
Scheifele
Laine
2nd
Should be close value. However, if Laine busts it out as he has done recentely, it could be a blowout.
What’s dumb is thinking that a team whose best player is a top three forward or defenseman in the league has to or would add “several +s” for McDavid. He’s the best player in the league but the gap between him and another elite player is not nearly as large as Edmonton fans fantasize about it being; if that other elite player happens to be several million cheaper then he’s actually more valuable in terms of performance per cap dollar spent.
And what’s really dumb is people making one thread after another about a player they have no interest in trading in the first place, making ridiculous demands of other teams’ fanbases for him, and then getting pissy when those demands are shot down. That’s just pathetic.
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