Connor McDavid Playoff Performance

[Shrimper]

Except lead his team in scoring (you know different teams play different teams in the playoffs right?), and lead his team past the first round (something Crosby couldn't do his first time out), and the playoffs aren't over. What IS over is the Regular Season though where you have a LARGER and more ACCURATE sample size. And it's without doubt that McDavid outperformed Crosby during that larger sample size. PPG AND overall production. By the way, injuries matter when it comes to torches being passed. And Crosby's head issues, however unfair, held him back from retaining the crown.

Yes, he was better in the regular season. But to say he lead his team to the series win is just plain wrong.

He has 1 ENG, 1 SHG and 2 PP assists.

He was held to 0 points in 5v5 for 5 games.

Pekka Rinne has more EV points than him.

Kassian and Talbot had a bigger impact in this series.

 

[TheNumber4]

Yes, he was better in the regular season. But to say he lead his team to the series win is just plain wrong.

He has 1 ENG, 1 SHG and 2 PP assists.

He was held to 0 points in 5v5 for 5 games.

Pekka Rinne has more EV points than him.

Kassian and Talbot had a bigger impact in this series.

He's the Captain. He's been leading all year. The team is following his example since he stepped onto the ice in his rookie season. Points don't tell the whole story. Did you watch the games? Did you see him turn around the game where Oilers were down 3-1 with a big hit? Are SHG easier to score or EV strength goals? Which is more demoralizing to the other team?

Talbot and Kassian ALSO had huge impacts. Neither would have had the chance if not for McDavid leading the team into the post-season.

 

[TheNumber4]

It's funny how forgiving you are of McDavid's poor playoff production.

I agree he's played well but just pointing out the hypocrisy. Just 3 non-EN points in 6 games, no ES points?

I don't judge a player based on a 6 game sample size where he "only" got 4 points. And Short handed goal is harder than Even strength goals. And he was dangerous ALL series. Every time he touched the puck something happened. In a series where scoring was few and far between and spread out throughout the whole roster he still was amazing.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I don't want to get into the stupid Crosby vs McDavid debate.
It's as dumb as my "dad can beat your dad".


What was proven to me this series, is Vlasic IS the best shutdown Dman in the league bar none.


He managed to shut down both Crosby and McDavid.


Vlasic is a beast.

 

[Satire]

Yes, he was better in the regular season. But to say he lead his team to the series win is just plain wrong.

He has 1 ENG, 1 SHG and 2 PP assists.

He was held to 0 points in 5v5 for 5 games.

Pekka Rinne has more EV points than him.

Kassian and Talbot had a bigger impact in this series.

On paper maybe, but you have to look at the bigger impact. I think the Sharks thought the Oilers were a 1 line team, and you can see it in the way they treated that top line. That's mad respect for McDavid. Vlasic was a beast of a shutdown defender, but they were forced to make a lot of quick changes to get those match ups. This allowed space for the other lines, with our 2nd line (RNH) taking on defensive match ups. It's no coincidence that all the game winners for the Oilers were scored by our 3rd and 4th lines.

Anyways, I thought McDavid did really well outside of the 7-0 win. Even when he wasn't scoring he was still throwing hits and trying to be a difference maker in other ways. In Game 6 he was stellar on the PK as well, rarely making mistakes with the puck and generally making the safe plays. There were also a few plays where he actually played as the 3rd man back rather than joining the rush and it prevented a lot of zone entries. He actually looked comfortable playing a defensive center role too.

I don't really care for the Sid vs Connor playoff comparison, the sample size is too small. I don't believe Connor has dethroned Sid by any means either. They are both awesome players. I am just stating that points/goals/assists aren't everything.

 

[Shrimper]

He's the Captain. He's been leading all year. The team is following his example since he stepped onto the ice in his rookie season. Points don't tell the whole story. Did you watch the games? Did you see him turn around the game where Oilers were down 3-1 with a big hit? Are SHG easier to score or EV strength goals? Which is more demoralizing to the other team?

Talbot and Kassian ALSO had huge impacts. Neither would have had the chance if not for McDavid leading the team into the post-season.

Except a captain is meant to produce. He couldn't even score a point at even strength in 5 games. One hit isn't going to change that. A goal is a goal as well.

San Jose shut him down and he was not as big as an impact as you would expect.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I don't judge a player based on a 6 game sample size where he "only" got 4 points. And Short handed goal is harder than Even strength goals. And he was dangerous ALL series. Every time he touched the puck something happened. In a series where scoring was few and far between and spread out throughout the whole roster he still was amazing.

I agree he was very good, and I agree a 6 games sample size is too small to judge a player. But that didn't seem to stop certain posters from doing precisely that based on an even smaller sample size.

I have a feeling that if he weren't an Oiler, you'd be all over his lack of ES points.

 

[TheNumber4]

Except a captain is meant to produce. He couldn't even score a point at even strength in 5 games. One hit isn't going to change that. A goal is a goal as well.

San Jose shut him down and he was not as big as an impact as you would expect.

But he scored a SHG which is harder and more valuable to his team than an EV goal.

And laid a big hit to change the game when the Oilers needed it most.

And his team WON the series. No matter how much you will purport to know about the inner workings of the Oilers locker room and the leadership dynamics. A Captain on a Series winning team is LEADING. Especially when that Captain is the best player in the world (arguably)

 

[McClelland]

Its a teamsport and we knocked out last years finalist without Mcd running the show!
McD keeps the other teams best D busy and shows the way with his work ethic.

New serie , new opportunities, McD will probably have great serie against Ana, cant hold back such a player for ever. If not, Ebs,Drai will get easier comp and have a blasting serie!

Didnt think that we gonna passing true the sharks this year before the serie began, but we went into the playoffs as one of the hottest team and that has boosting this team.

We have been lucky with injurys this season and has great goaltending for the most, anything can happen these playoffs. The Ducks is very deep at D but their offensive is pretty meeh when Rakkell has slowned down and Perry sucked all season, only Getz isnt enough.

Have a feeling that The Ducks cant handle the Oilers speed 4-2 Oilers!

 

[TheNumber4]

I agree he was very good, and I agree a 6 games sample size is too small to judge a player. But that didn't seem to stop certain posters from doing precisely that based on an even smaller sample size.

I have a feeling that if he weren't an Oiler, you'd be all over his lack of ES points.

If he wasn't an Oiler I wouldn't be posting about him one way or another. But he is an Oiler, I watched the games closely focusing on chance creation, zone time, and factors that win playoff games. I didn't just base my observations on the fancy stats. And besides SHG are harder than EVG. And they are more valuable to the team because a shorty is more demoralizing to the opponent. So not really buying into the lack of ES points narrative.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

He was pretty ineffective, but that should get Oilers fans excited because if we showed you his stats pretty series, 99% of the world would have bet agains the Oilers winning.

But McDavid lovers, lets not try to sugarcoat this one.

 

[AlanHUK]

I am sure as an Oilers fan you would but that doesn't change the fact that Crosby was better his 1st playoff series. We'll see how McDavid does moving forward.

Personally I agree that getting experience is what this year is about but as long as some posters want to compare him to Crosby, there will be responses.

objectively how are you quantifying Crosby's first series as being better?

McDavid's line wasn't scored on at ES, he was used in all situations, he wasn't being sheltered, and he led the team in scoring.

 

[TheNumber4]

He was pretty ineffective, but that should get Oilers fans excited because if we showed you his stats pretty series, 99% of the world would have bet agains the Oilers winning.

But McDavid lovers, lets not try to sugarcoat this one.

No need to sugar coat a great performance. He was dangerous all series and threw a hit that changes an entire game in favor of the Oilers coming back and winning it. Did you watch every game and every minute of the Oilers-Sharks series like Oilers fans did? Or did you just stat watch hoping for an oppurtunity to put down McDavid like you have all thread?

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I can tell who watches stats, and who watched the games.


This series was not 6-4 blowout games (aside from a 7-0 loss).

It was 1-0. 2-1 type games all series.

 

[habdynasty]

Second round , all that matters.

 

[Wadewilson]

The sharks did a good job on Mcdavid that's for sure. Oh well bring on the Ducks

 

[daver]

objectively how are you quantifying Crosby's first series as being better?

McDavid's line wasn't scored on at ES, he was used in all situations, he wasn't being sheltered, and he led the team in scoring.

How can you objectively give him credit for leading his team in scoring by virtue of a EN goal with 1 second left.

Anyone who watched Crosby's 1st series saw him constantly creating scoring chances. He simply was better.

Will it matter in the long run? Nope. McDavid will have plenty of chances to show what he is made of so perhaps the constant comparisons to Crosby to excuse McDavid's lower production should not be made.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

If he wasn't an Oiler I wouldn't be posting about him one way or another. But he is an Oiler, I watched the games closely focusing on chance creation, zone time, and factors that win playoff games. I didn't just base my observations on the fancy stats. And besides SHG are harder than EVG. And they are more valuable to the team because a shorty is more demoralizing to the opponent. So not really buying into the lack of ES points narrative.

Unless he was a Flame, right?

 

[TheNumber4]

How can you objectively give him credit for leading his team in scoring by virtue of a EN goal with 1 second left.

Anyone who watched Crosby's 1st series saw him constantly creating scoring chances. He simply was better.

Will it matter in the long run? Nope. McDavid will have plenty of chances to show what he is made of so perhaps the constant comparisons to Crosby to excuse McDavid's lower production should not be made.

And anyone who watched McDavid's 1 series saw him constantly creating scoring chances as well. I don't remember enough about Crosby's series to make a call on which was better. I'll lean towards Crosby because of the production and the reviews its given around here. BUT stop acting like Oiler fans defence of McDavid's great performance in his first series equals us trying to say it was better than Crosby's. It's 2 different things.

And your right, it doesn't matter in the long run. Long run samples like the regular season is more indicative of McDavid's stature anyways. And more playoff games and next season etc.

But still doesn't change the fact that McDavid had a GREAT series.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Hard for McDavid to score ES when literally the entire series was played shorthanded.

Refs loved the sharks.


Penalty differential was ridiculously lopsided. But you'd only know that if you actually watched the games which most people commenting obviously have not.

 

[McShogun99]

He led his team in scoring and was tied for the scoring lead with 2 other Shark players. What more can you ask of the kid? He isn't going to get 2 PPG in the playoffs.

 

[TheNumber4]

Unless he was a Flame, right?

Good guess. But if he was doing everything he was doing as an Oiler but on the Flames roster, I'd give him credit for being the player he is. Just like how I think Monahan is an underrated sniper. I'd just chirp about him too, but it'd be chrips in jest and not a serious opinion on his game.

 

[AustonsNostrils]

Connor McDavid always looks like the goody two shoes kid who's been bullied in a teen movie right at the point where the tears and quivering lips give way to a building rage and he just loses it and fights back

 

[shoop]

He led his team in scoring and was tied for the scoring lead with 2 other Shark players. What more can you ask of the kid? He isn't going to get 2 PPG in the playoffs.

Really? As an Oilers fan are you honestly happy with McDavid's performance.

Four points in a six game series for the team's 'leading scorer' speaks to a solid team game, and incredible goaltending.

McDavid played with heart. The effort was definitely there, but the results weren't. I suspect he will do better against Anaheim. I don't think Kesler will be able to keep McDavid down..

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Really? As an Oilers fan are you honestly happy with McDavid's performance.

Four points in a six game series for the team's 'leading scorer' speaks to a solid team game, and incredible goaltending.

McDavid played with heart. The effort was definitely there, but the results weren't. I suspect he will do better against Anaheim. I don't think Kesler will be able to keep McDavid down..

That's really all you can ask for. Sometimes the puck doesn't go in.