Confirmed with Link: Connor Dewar - Signed one-year, $1.18mm

[NJG]

Our 4th line is $5 million and it'd be nice to upgrade on 2 of the players since one is bad and the other is ok.

By itself, it is fine, but this keeps happening...

And your point is? Just because they signed him doesn't mean they can't or wont trade him. Just because Kampf is here still doesn't mean they won't trade him.

The fourth line will not be worth $5M come opening night, that's very obvious...

 

[disgruntleddave]

It feels replacement level, but at the same time who else should we sign or promote instead?

Gurdd they like the player enough, see potential. Hopefully he'll be stronger being here for the full year, be well utilized by the new coaching staff.

The contract is very low down on our list of things to be concerned about with this organization. It's fine enough.

 

[Squiffy]

Sure, pretty inconsequential signing, depth at depth price. Only $30,000 over being fully buried if waived, good enough. NHL level player.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Oh man did Dewar ever hit pay dirt.

Guess Treliving sees Dewar as an elite bottom sixer if that isn't an oxymoron. Gotta hope he knows a lot more than everyone else what this guy is capable. Because this signing is getting slammed almost as bad as the Kampf one.

All Treliving's done since getting hired is give people raises.

Except to Robertson that is. Ha ha no wonder he asked for a trade. A no scoring bottom six chump like Dewar just got an almost 50% increase in pay.

Feels a little unfair Robertson didn't get his "fair" share.

Then again nobody should care about the cry baby wanting out of here anyway. Not like the Leafs can afford him anymore. There isn't much room left in the budget to give anyone else extra.

Not in small part because they just gave Dewar a huge raise.

on what planet is this "elite bottom sixer" money. He was projected for $1.4M by the models I've seen so this "hit pay dirt" narrative is hilarious.

 

[notbias]

And your point is? Just because they signed him doesn't mean they can't or wont trade him. Just because Kampf is here still doesn't mean they won't trade him.

The fourth line will not be worth $5M come opening night, that's very obvious...

Source?

Do you think they are signing players to trade them? Just trade his rights...

Kampf is the only useful one.

on what planet is this "elite bottom sixer" money. He was projected for $1.4M by the models I've seen so this "hit pay dirt" narrative is hilarious.

Those same models usually have Matthews as being underpaid as well, just FYI.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Those same models usually have Matthews as being underpaid as well, just FYI.

not this one

https://x.com/i/web/status/1694714575193858354

this isn't a model like Dom's/EvolvingHockey which seeks to quantify the on-ice value, it's one that seeks to predict contracts based on comparables.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1815817665480392787

 

[notbias]

not this one

https://x.com/i/web/status/1694714575193858354

this isn't a model like Dom's/EvolvingHockey which seeks to quantify the on-ice value, it's one that seeks to predict contracts based on comparables.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1815817665480392787

I guess that is their prediction, but $1.4 million for a fringe NHLer who hasn't secured a spot in the lineup and should be challenged by other bubble players seems like a lot and a high prediction.

What stats are used?

I think $1.2 is still too much for a replaceable player, but it isn't terrible.

 

[The Iceman]

Call me crazy, but this is a stupid deal.

Dewar is far from a "special player" in the league. He has 19 goals in 190 games. He should probably be making $900k. Similar to Noah Gregor who signed with the Sens for $850k.

This deal feels like we're paying for potential "this guy could be a stud PKer that puts up a dozen goals"... but with no actual upside as it's only a 1-year deal.

At least get yourself a 2nd year on it much like the Leafs did with McMann.

WELL....he was a very good PKer that put up 11 goals last year so he is almost what you hope he will be.

Take Dewar over Gregor because he can play centre too.

 

[Machinae]

Tough crowd.. I liked this pick up and its a fine price for one year.

Dewar came in and made the 4th line not only playable but a net positive, and he passed the eye test too. Who the hell compared him to Gregor? That dude was a joke, part of the historically awful 4th line that got scored on every game he played.

 

[notbias]

Tough crowd.. I liked this pick up and its a fine price for one year.

Dewar came in and made the 4th line not only playable but a net positive, and he passed the eye test too. Who the hell compared him to Gregor? That dude was a joke, part of the historically awful 4th line that got scored on every game he played.

He wasn't the glue... Reaves coming back and being playable was, early in the season he was horrendous.

Holmberg - Kampf - Reaves was better than with Dewar there.

But yes, Gregor sucked and Dewar is better.

 

[NJG]

Source?

Do you think they are signing players to trade them? Just trade his rights...

Kampf is the only useful one.

I never said they we're going to trade him I said just because they signed him doesn't mean they can't or won't trade him... and yes many players have signed contracts and we're traded right after or for the purpose of a sign and trade...

Kampf is not useful at $2.4M... he's a fourth liner, you don't pay fourth liners $2.4M and he's not a third liner.... so the likelihood of him being traded is very high.

 

[notbias]

I never said they we're going to trade him I said just because they signed him doesn't mean they can't or won't trade him... and yes many players have signed contracts and we're traded right after or for the purpose of a sign and trade...

Kampf is not useful at $2.4M... he's a fourth liner, you don't pay fourth liners $2.4M and he's not a third liner.... so the likelihood of him being traded is very high.

A sign and trade is signed and then immediately traded, at this point, this would just be a trade.

Kampf is overpaid but by far the most useful on the 4th line, I don't think he is being traded away.

 

[seanlinden]

So doing some reading, and listening to Steve Dangle's reaction video... I think I get why it had to be $1.18m.

If you assume the Leafs sign Hakanpaa to the $1.5m they supposedly agreed on; I think it would be highly likely that he isn't ready to go for game 1, and starts on LTIR.

If that signing goes through..... it leaves them with $875,300 in cap space assuming Connor Timmins is sent down. The Leafs have at least 4 players who make exactly that (or $300 less to be exact)-- Jacob Quillan, Nikita Grebyonkin, Matt Murray, and Cade Webber.

If the Leafs align their opening day roster to be $300 shy of the cap, then they can use all but $300 of Hakanpaa's $1.5m on LTIR. That means they can bring back Timmins for $1.1m, and swap out whichever of the above 4 they've kept in favour of Easton Cowan, should they decide that route.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Dewar has been so disappointing. I get that he’s only been a fourth liner in his career but the guy had 10 goals for Minnesota in 57 games last year, and finished with 11 in 74. The fact that he’s sitting at zero over halfway through the season is awful, a big falloff after what looked to be a big step forward last year. Yeah he’s been injured but you’d think he’d have potted a couple by now.

Thought for sure he’d thrive in Berube’s system but it’s been the opposite. Lorentz and Kampf have managed to find the back of the net a few times, no reason why he shouldn’t also have done so by now.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Dewar has been so disappointing. I get that he’s only been a fourth liner in his career but the guy had 10 goals for Minnesota in 57 games last year, and finished with 11 in 74. The fact that he’s sitting at zero over halfway through the season is awful, a big falloff after what looked to be a big step forward last year. Yeah he’s been injured but you’d think he’d have potted a couple by now.

Thought for sure he’d thrive in Berube’s system but it’s been the opposite. Lorentz and Kampf have managed to find the back of the net a few times, no reason why he shouldn’t also have done so by now.

I think since 5-6 games after he came back he's been an awesome 4th liner. Not like he is given minutes, linemates, or PP time to put up points as a leaf

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I think since 5-6 games after he came back he's been an awesome 4th liner. Not like he is given minutes, linemates, or PP time to put up points as a leaf

It’s just grittier cardio out there imo (which is better than regular cardio). They provide some energy and aren’t defensive liabilities. His usage isn’t that dissimilar to his time on Minnesota. It’s just that the offence, which was upper tier for a fourth liner, hasn’t followed him here.

I don’t mean to pick on Dewar, he’s not the only non-factor offensively in the bottom six. I personally thought he’d be bringing more though.

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

I think since 5-6 games after he came back he's been an awesome 4th liner. Not like he is given minutes, linemates, or PP time to put up points as a leaf

His on-ice results for the season are as bad as if not worse than Reaves'. Granted they've played together a fair amount but still. His PK numbers are average at best too. It's hard to care that much about 4th liners but it makes you wonder what the point of spending anything more than league minimum is when you can always just sign a handful of players like Lorentz and waive them if they don't work out.

Also apparently he's injured again.

 

[TMLAM34]

He’ll throw a random big hit, especially for his size, every now and then but other than that he’s pretty useless out there.

 

[Puckstuff]

He’ll throw a random big hit, especially for his size, every now and then but other than that he’s pretty useless out there.

I'd much rather Grebenkin