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The lackadaisical play on their side of the ice has been present for the past several games and they've been getting away with it. Tonight, the goalie and offense couldn't bail them out so it finally bit them on the ass.

Too many soft/cute passes leading to turnovers in the zone. Too slow of reactions behind their own net. Too many odd man rushes. Too much space given to the opposition. It's a trend that started a few games ago and this is what was present all the last couple years and it looked like they exorcised themselves from it earlier this year. Now it's creeping back in. It's the only thing that gives me pause from just saying "Tired team. Forget this one and move forward" etc. You want to say coaching matters? Then Laviolette needs to nip this shit in the bud.
 
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They weren’t going to win them all, but this was bound to happen. They've come out slow every game since the Bruins. They’ve been able to come back and win most, but can’t keep doing it.

They need Chytil back. Would give them a spark.
 
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JCProdigy said:
The lackadaisical play on their side of the ice has been present for the past several games and they've been getting away with it. Tonight, the goalie and offense couldn't bail them out so it finally bit them on the ass.

Too many soft/cute passes leading to turnovers in the zone. Too slow of reactions behind their own net. Too many odd man rushes. Too much space given to the opposition. It's a trend that started a few games ago and this is what was present all the last couple years and it looked like they exorcised themselves from it earlier this year. Now it's creeping back in. It's the only thing that gives me pause from just saying "Tired team. Forget this one and move forward" etc. You want to say coaching matters? Then Laviolette needs to nip this shit in the bud.
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This. The bad habits are creeping back in.
 
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LOFIN said:
Yes, we watch the games. Apart from a handful of games, Zibanejad has played like dog shit. Shove that PPG up your ass, over 50% of his points are coming out of PP.
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I don't remember saying anything to you about anything and your response is uncalled for.

Secondly, the PP points count. The goals scored matter. This team has wildly exceeded expectations and Mika hasn't even gotten hot yet.

If you have watched this team, you know Mika is one of the streakiest players we have ever had. Yeah there are times when he's not feeling it but then he hits a streak when everything he touches goes in. He will get it going.
 
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Yes, we watch the games. Apart from a handful of games, Zibanejad has played like dog shit. Shove that PPG up your ass, over 50% of his points are coming out of PP. He has 7! 5v5 points in 24 games. That's not good enough.
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That comes out to 24 pts over 82 games....for a 1C, that is, how should we say? No bueno. That's not taking anything away from his production on the PP but still, that's anemic 5v5 production for a top center and unfortunately, what that does is put a lot of pressure on line two while giving the other teams a breather ie they really only have to worry about shutting down one line.
 
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SML2 said:
I don't remember saying anything to you about anything and your response is uncalled for.

Secondly, the PP points count. The goals scored matter. This team has wildly exceeded expectations and Mika hasn't even gotten hot yet.

If you have watched this team, you know Mika is one of the streakiest players we have ever had. Yeah there are times when he's not feeling it but then he hits a streak when everything he touches goes in. He will get it going.
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He's not a creative player. Everything he touches is just his hair.
 
SML2 said:
I don't remember saying anything to you about anything and your response is uncalled for.

Secondly, the PP points count. The goals scored matter. This team has wildly exceeded expectations and Mika hasn't even gotten hot yet.

If you have watched this team, you know Mika is one of the streakiest players we have ever had. Yeah there are times when he's not feeling it but then he hits a streak when everything he touches goes in. He will get it going.
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Sorry about being rude.

But saying "Mika hasn't gotten hot" is an understatement. He's on pace for his worst season in 6 years. He's on pace for 24 5v5 points, he has averaged 40ish in the last few seasons. It's not just him being cold, this is a shockingly bad start. Actually, considering we are 30% into the season, is it even fair about talking about the start anymore? We are well into the season, and it hasn't gotten better.

He's getting paid a lot of money to be our #1C, and yes, he's not a top #1C in this league but this is still unacceptable.
 
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will1066 said:
This. The bad habits are creeping back in.
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And hey, it could be blip in the road. It could be tired legs and minds. It could be the 12% beer kicking in. We'll see.

....Oh and where has the 1-3-1 gone? The structure isn't there to me. In the first 10 games they averaged 26 shots against with an xGA of 2.82/gm. The last 10 games its been 34 and 3.67/gm.
 
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Meeka usually takes 30 games to get going. Not that that's an excuse but just the sad reality. On that history, I will wait another 12 games to like, I unno, bitch some more.
 
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This loss was pretty predictable. This team was tired and hasn't played with urgency for a while. They need to tighten up in the D zone but like I said after last game, fatigue causes defensive breakdowns. This loss means nothing in the long run and they needed an ass kicking anyway. Get rest, practice, and reset. BTW this team really misses Chytil.
 
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PuckLuck3043 said:
This loss was pretty predictable. This team was tired and hasn't played with urgency for a while. They need to tighten up in the D zone but like I said after last game, fatigue causes defensive breakdowns. This loss means nothing in the long run and they needed an ass kicking anyway. Get rest, practice, and reset. BTW this team really misses Chytil.
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Kakko as well. For all his offensive struggles, he's one of the best defensive forwards on the team.
 
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3/4 nights after traveling or just because Ottawa isn't as glamorous a city to come out like crap? Who knows.

They could use a few days to get their collective heads out of their....you know. They're starting to believe their own hype and played like last year's Rangers.

If Goodrow broke his jaw (definitely a possibility) and with how Precautionary Andy and the staff have treated injuries this year, I think it's more likely we see him in January then this weekend with a cage. If that's the case, now many of you will find out how important he is defensively and in a swiss army role as Johnny Brodz is part of the center rotation (not a good situation).

I'd love if Edstrom is healed up from his illness (hopefully it wasn't covid) and he can get a few games in. If not him, honestly just LTIR Goodrow and give Othmann a shot with Mika and Kreider.
 
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JCProdigy said:
The lackadaisical play on their side of the ice has been present for the past several games and they've been getting away with it. Tonight, the goalie and offense couldn't bail them out so it finally bit them on the ass.

Too many soft/cute passes leading to turnovers in the zone. Too slow of reactions behind their own net. Too many odd man rushes. Too much space given to the opposition. It's a trend that started a few games ago and this is what was present all the last couple years and it looked like they exorcised themselves from it earlier this year. Now it's creeping back in. It's the only thing that gives me pause from just saying "Tired team. Forget this one and move forward" etc. You want to say coaching matters? Then Laviolette needs to nip this shit in the bud.
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In his presser after the game it sounded to me like he's aware of this and is gonna make some changes. There probably hasn't been much practice time with this asinine schedule and the old habits are creeping back in.
 
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SML2 said:
Both of those players are averaging nearly a ppg on a team with the best record in the league. Brodzinski had back to back 2 point games with them prior to this one. Do you even watch the games?
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Kreider-Zibanejad haven’t worked 5v5 in years, and they’ve never found a RWer for that line. They get their points because they’re talented and feast on the Power Play, but they’re not playing well.

I’m at a point where I’m done blaming the guys they’re paired with too. They’re 2 of the highest paid guys on the club, be professionals and figure it out. We’ve seen someone like Kakko have success on other lines, figure it out.
 
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LionsHeart said:
Kreider-Zibanejad haven’t worked 5v5 in years, and they’ve never found a RWer for that line.
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I don't think that's entirely fair. They have worked in the past, at least getting success 5v5 as well. Now you can say that their style isn't really the most sustainable and can question its effectiveness come playoffs. But the fact is, in previous years Kreider and Zibanejad have scored 5v5 as well.

But it hasn't worked at all this year, apart from like 2 or 3 games. So something needs to be done about it. We have our 3rd RW going on that line, maybe next time something else?
 
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