Congratulations! YOU Have Been Hired As GM of the LA Kings. Post Your Offseason Plan & Lineup.

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I have no interest in paying good money to over 30 vets to try and help prop-up a badly built roster. The only aging vets the Kings should be interested in are stop gaps while the roster gets turned over

Step one: Try and sign Byfield long term

Step two: tell Kopi and Doughty that the team isn't a contender and won't be before they retire, and if they want another chance at a cup that I'll do my best to trade them where they want. Otherwise, you ride out their deals, less minutes to Kopi (for his own good, he wears down), no more top PP time for Doughty

Step three: Gage the market on the likes of Fiala and Kempe, who are coming out of their primes and will be well into their 30's by the time the Kings are competitive. Not saying that you sell them...yet. These two could be big targets at the deadline if the deals aren't there. Ideally looking for top prospects, a reverse Faber type of deal (McGroarty?)

Step four: Try and convince Gavrikov to waive his NTC. He wasn't good last year, and I'm not interested in giving him a long term deal.

Step five: Sell high now on Trevor Moore. He's 29, scored 31 goals, and his previous career high is 17. Major regression is coming


Many will whine and complain, but a complete reset is needed, and everything else is just delaying the inevitable .
Best post in the thread. For a start you are recognising you can’t do anything without agreement from the player and/or team you are trying to deal with. You can’t sign player ‘x’ if he doesn’t want to come, you can’t make a trade unless the other team wants to play.
 

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I’d probably have a nice breakfast of nose nachos, get a quick 27 holes in at the country club, then just go ahead and repeat that all summer.

It’s clear hat the high brass doesn’t give a shit, so I’m gonna coast.
 
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If I'm Blake, I'm trading the 21st overall pick and Kaliyev to the Jets for Rutger McGroarty

That guy is a gamer and would instantly be our best prospect. I'm pretty sure he's committed to another year at Michigan but he'd be the kind of player that steps into the lineup the following year and is instantly an impact player.

Definitely worth parting ways with the 2024 1st rounder for a player like that IMO.

Edit: Honestly, you maybe wouldn't even need to offer the 2024 1st round pick. Could maybe get the deal done by offering a 2025 2nd rounder + Kaliyev or something. For comparison, Cutter Gauthier was a previous 5th overall pick and he was traded for a 2nd round pick and Jamie Drysdale. In any case, if I'm Blake, McGroarty is a guy I'd be targeting right now as long as the cost isn't too high.
 
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johnjm22

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If I'm Blake, I'm trading the 21st overall pick and Kaliyev to the Jets for Rutger McGroarty

That guy is a gamer and would instantly be our best prospect. I'm pretty sure he's committed to another year at Michigan but he'd be the kind of player that steps into the lineup the following year and is instantly an impact player.

Definitely worth parting ways with the 2024 1st rounder for a player like that IMO.

Edit: Honestly, you maybe wouldn't even need to offer the 2024 1st round pick. Could maybe get the deal done by offering a 2025 2nd rounder + Kaliyev or something. For comparison, Cutter Gauthier was a previous 5th overall pick and he was traded for a 2nd round pick and Jamie Drysdale. In any case, if I'm Blake, McGroarty is a guy I'd be targeting right now as long as the cost isn't too high.
Drysdale was the 6th OA pick. I don't think Kaliyev's value is even close to what his was.

Winnipeg is always in win now mode because of their market. They probably would want a quality NHL player as part of the return.

Would love to get McGroarty but he doesn't really fit LA's timeline.
 
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In a universe where Blake didn't make the PLD trade, our situation would look like this:

Fiala-XXXX-Kempe
Iafallo-Kopitar-Vilardi
Moore-Danault-Laferriere
Turcotte-Thomas-XXXX
Kupari

Anderson-Doughty
Gavrikov-Clarke
XXXX-XXXX
Englund

XXXX
Rittich

Provorov 2.025M
Richards 700K
Carryover Bonuses: 1.85M

CAP SPACE: 18.6M

That's a pretty deep roster, with a shit ton of cap space to work with. Plus we'd have the 37th OA pick this upcoming draft.
I know you fired me because of incompetence :D
But i would strongly advice to include Byfield into that roster
 

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Drysdale was the 6th OA pick. I don't think Kaliyev's value is even close to what his was.

Winnipeg is always in win now mode because of their market. They probably would want a quality NHL player as part of the return.

Would love to get McGroarty but he doesn't really fit LA's timeline.
Its funny how draft position matters for some players and not others. Turcotte isnt worth squat yet Drysdale is like a -60 in his career so far, is undersized and gets caved defensively. Spence hasnt played as many games as Drysdale but his offensive numbers are almost on par even without any serious powerplay time.
 

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If I'm Blake, I'm trading the 21st overall pick and Kaliyev to the Jets for Rutger McGroarty

That guy is a gamer and would instantly be our best prospect. I'm pretty sure he's committed to another year at Michigan but he'd be the kind of player that steps into the lineup the following year and is instantly an impact player.

Definitely worth parting ways with the 2024 1st rounder for a player like that IMO.

Edit: Honestly, you maybe wouldn't even need to offer the 2024 1st round pick. Could maybe get the deal done by offering a 2025 2nd rounder + Kaliyev or something. For comparison, Cutter Gauthier was a previous 5th overall pick and he was traded for a 2nd round pick and Jamie Drysdale. In any case, if I'm Blake, McGroarty is a guy I'd be targeting right now as long as the cost isn't too high.
I like this prospect. I am all about building for the future. I want guys that can play with Byfield. I would see if a Moore for McGroarty is of interest to Winnipeg.

I like Trevor Moore and I love his speed, and I know we’re already missing offense from PLD, but this is the year to get the kids integrated. See what you have in Turc, Thomas, Fagemo.

Also save 4 million in cap.

At this point, I’d rather put that money into a physical Forward like Dakota Joshua



It would help the sting of losing Vilardi
 
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Drysdale was the 6th OA pick. I don't think Kaliyev's value is even close to what his was.

Winnipeg is always in win now mode because of their market. They probably would want a quality NHL player as part of the return.

Would love to get McGroarty but he doesn't really fit LA's timeline.
Winnipeg has no leverage in this situation... They might want a quality NHL player as part of the return but good luck getting that. McGroarty is a prospect, albeit a very good one but a prospect, and he's made it clear he's fully comfortable playing another two years in college before becoming a free agent and signing wherever he wants.

Winnipeg is in a situation where they need to get assets back so they don't lose McGroarty for nothing. I'm sure they'd take future assets if offered. Kaliyev and the 21st overall pick is more than a fair offer IMO and it's one Winnipeg would do well to accept.
 
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Winnipeg has no leverage in this situation... They might want a quality NHL player as part of the return but good luck getting that. McGroarty is a prospect, albeit a very good one but a prospect, and he's made it clear he's fully comfortable playing another two years in college before becoming a free agent and signing wherever he wants.

Winnipeg is in a situation where they need to get assets back so they don't lose McGroarty for nothing. I'm sure they'd take future assets if offered. Kaliyev and the 21st overall pick is more than a fair offer IMO and it's one Winnipeg would do well to accept.
The correct value from LA would probably be Brandt Clarke.

Imagine if someone offered you the 21st OA pick and mediocre 2nd round prospect for Clarke. Would you take it? No.

Jets have plenty of time since McG doesn't become a UFA for two years.

Keep in mind they would get a 2nd round pick as compensation anyways (same as Kaliyev's value) if he doesn't sign, so all you're really offering is the 21st OA.
 
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johnjm22

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I like this prospect. I am all about building for the future. I want guys that can play with Byfield. I would see if a Moore for McGroarty is of interest to Winnipeg.

I like Trevor Moore and I love his speed, and I know we’re already missing offense from PLD, but this is the year to get the kids integrated. See what you have in Turc, Thomas, Fagemo.

Also save 4 million in cap.

At this point, I’d rather put that money into a physical Forward like Dakota Joshua



It would help the sting of losing Vilardi
Hmmm.

Moore, 1st, Kaliyev, rights to Matt Roy (WPG needs RHD)
for
McG, Iaffalo


Iaffalo replaces Moore for us. Winnipeg gets a high quality NHL player who's locked up, plus futures. Depends a lot on what Moore's value is. But 4.2M for a "30 goal scorer" is pretty great.
 
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Right hand shots that might be obtainable by the King's for a top 6 wing & PP specialist.
Laine
Toffoli
Risto converted to wing.
Lewis
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The market that the King's have the assets to compete in is pretty brutal. Any other cheap options?

Edit: Forgot Fagemo is right handed & can shoot! Problem solved!!!
 
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Hmmm.

Moore, 1st, Kaliyev, rights to Matt Roy (WPG needs RHD)
for
McG, Iaffalo


Iaffalo replaces Moore for us. Winnipeg gets a high quality NHL player who's locked up, plus futures. Depends a lot on what Moore's value is. But 4.2M for a "30 goal scorer" is pretty great.
I like it. Iafallo fills a need short term and works well with Danault. Can score a bit. Good on defence and tenacious.
 
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johnjm22

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I like it. Iafallo fills a need short term and works well with Danault. Can score a bit. Good on defence and tenacious.
Also in a contract year. He'll be extra motivated to play well.

We also know he works well with Kopitar.
 
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FSL KINGS

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Hmmm.

Moore, 1st, Kaliyev, rights to Matt Roy (WPG needs RHD)
for
McG, Iaffalo


Iaffalo replaces Moore for us. Winnipeg gets a high quality NHL player who's locked up, plus futures. Depends a lot on what Moore's value is. But 4.2M for a "30 goal scorer" is pretty great.
King's could just claim JAD off waivers for free instead of trading for Iafallo.
 
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Hmmm.

Moore, 1st, Kaliyev, rights to Matt Roy (WPG needs RHD)
for
McG, Iaffalo


Iaffalo replaces Moore for us. Winnipeg gets a high quality NHL player who's locked up, plus futures. Depends a lot on what Moore's value is. But 4.2M for a "30 goal scorer" is pretty great.
Thats kind of a lot. Iafallo has no value cause of his contract and from all reports McG projects to be a Josh Anderson type with less speed. Moore was the Kings leading scorer.
I wonder if the Kings are sick of Fiala and his giveaways yet. Also Drew calling him out on cookie night and his playoff no show. Hes signed for a while so Winnipeg may like that.
How about Fiala plus a tiny add for Ehlers and Mcgroarty?
 
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The correct value from LA would probably be Brandt Clarke.

Imagine if someone offered you the 21st OA pick and mediocre 2nd round prospect for Clarke. Would you take it? No.

Jets have plenty of time since McG doesn't become a UFA for two years.

Keep in mind they would get a 2nd round pick as compensation anyways (same as Kaliyev's value) if he doesn't sign, so all you're really offering is the 21st OA.
Huh????? McGroarty and Clarke do NOT have the same amount of value... Clarke > McGroarty in terms of value (although I'd admit the margin might not be too substantial).

The bold part - If the situation was that we KNEW Clarke wouldn't sign in LA and was going to force his way to another team then yes, I would accept a 1st round pick and a previous 2nd round prospect who needed a change of scenery for Clarke.

The circumstances matter a LOT in situations like these. As I mentioned, Winnipeg has very little leverage in this situation. They have a top prospect (previous 14th overall pick) who is essentially saying he's going to force his way to another team - They essentially HAVE to trade him while they still can so they don't lose him for nothing (whether they trade him now or a year from now is up to them but in these situations its usually better to act sooner instead of waiting around).

Again, using the Cutter Gauthier deal as a comparable... The return for Gauthier was a 2nd round pick and Drysdale... Drysdale himself didn't even have a ton of value at the time of the trade - He was a previous top 10 pick, sure - But he was also coming off of a significant injury (adding more risk to acquiring him) and it wasn't like he was overly excellent out of the gate for the Ducks (hence they they were willing to trade him). 21st overall and Kaliyev is a very comparable/reasonable package - It's a mid-1st round pick and a young player who needs a change of scenery and could thrive on another team for a guy the Jets are going to lose anyways.
 

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Huh????? McGroarty and Clarke do NOT have the same amount of value... Clarke > McGroarty in terms of value (although I'd admit the margin might not be too substantial).

The bold part - If the situation was that we KNEW Clarke wouldn't sign in LA and was going to force his way to another team then yes, I would accept a 1st round pick and a previous 2nd round prospect who needed a change of scenery for Clarke.

The circumstances matter a LOT in situations like these. As I mentioned, Winnipeg has very little leverage in this situation. They have a top prospect (previous 14th overall pick) who is essentially saying he's going to force his way to another team - They essentially HAVE to trade him while they still can so they don't lose him for nothing (whether they trade him now or a year from now is up to them but in these situations its usually better to act sooner instead of waiting around).

Again, using the Cutter Gauthier deal as a comparable... The return for Gauthier was a 2nd round pick and Drysdale... Drysdale himself didn't even have a ton of value at the time of the trade - He was a previous top 10 pick, sure - But he was also coming off of a significant injury (adding more risk to acquiring him) and it wasn't like he was overly excellent out of the gate for the Ducks (hence they they were willing to trade him). 21st overall and Kaliyev is a very comparable/reasonable package - It's a mid-1st round pick and a young player who needs a change of scenery and could thrive on another team for a guy the Jets are going to lose anyways.
Having all the leverage has never precluded Blake from massively overpaying anyway, especially with Winnipeg. Plus the thing that turned McGroarty off from the Jets in the first place is that they wouldn’t have played him and he likely would’ve been stuck in the AHL. Why on earth would he then agree to sign with the Kings of all teams?
 

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