Proposal: Complicated Koskinen for Korpisalo trade

[herzausstein]

Koskinen has had a better sv% than Korpisalo each of the 4 seasons he’s been in the NHL. Only thing Korpisalo has going for him is that he’s younger and cheaper. Either way, Edmonton need to improve its goaltending and that goalie swap is lateral at best. I could see interest in cole but not sure why he’d be on the market

 

[herzausstein]

When it comes to trade value, yeah Korpisalo should have zero value based on recent results. But is Merzlikins really only a 0.903 goalie? That team doesn't help out their goalies a ton.

I'm of the belief that the majority of goalies in this market are at best a moderate upgrade on Koskinen, who in all honesty is an average 1B goaltender.

If all it takes is a mid-round pick to take Korpisalo with Columbus making the money work, yeah, I'd probably be fine with him the rest of the way just looking at his playoff numbers. It frees us up to flip Koskinen elsewhere to open salary to address other areas.

You could make the argument that Columbus is really failing their goaltenders this year but that doesn’t excuse the rest of his seasons. 4 of last 5 (including this season) below .900 sv%

 

[Irie]

Shirley they could use some grit down the road.

Surely you know people take offense when you call them Shirley...

 

[Stubu]

Jesus. I just looked at the proposal, and its an even bigger no.

Explain why.

 

[Stubu]

When it comes to trade value, yeah Korpisalo should have zero value based on recent results. But is Merzlikins really only a 0.903 goalie? That team doesn't help out their goalies a ton.

I'm of the belief that the majority of goalies in this market are at best a moderate upgrade on Koskinen, who in all honesty is an average 1B goaltender.

If all it takes is a mid-round pick to take Korpisalo with Columbus making the money work, yeah, I'd probably be fine with him the rest of the way just looking at his playoff numbers. It frees us up to flip Koskinen elsewhere to open salary to address other areas.

I like your reasonable argumentation, but which team are you talking for? Oilers?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

When it comes to trade value, yeah Korpisalo should have zero value based on recent results. But is Merzlikins really only a 0.903 goalie? That team doesn't help out their goalies a ton.

I'm of the belief that the majority of goalies in this market are at best a moderate upgrade on Koskinen, who in all honesty is an average 1B goaltender.

If all it takes is a mid-round pick to take Korpisalo with Columbus making the money work, yeah, I'd probably be fine with him the rest of the way just looking at his playoff numbers. It frees us up to flip Koskinen elsewhere to open salary to address other areas.

that’s why I made it a three year sample. Korpisalo’s been ass his whole career outside of one playoff run. Merzlikins is a good goalie on a bad team - a good goalie that watched his best friend die this offseason.

 

[Stubu]

Koskinen has had a better sv% than Korpisalo each of the 4 seasons he’s been in the NHL. Only thing Korpisalo has going for him is that he’s younger and cheaper. Either way, Edmonton need to improve its goaltending and that goalie swap is lateral at best. I could see interest in cole but not sure why he’d be on the market

Cole is good, he's not on the market. If Nemo is available, suddenly Cole is on the market. It's a ruthless business.

 

[ManByng]

I would like to see what we have in Neimelainen before we bounce him out the door

 

[Viqsi]

Don't tell anyone but smuggling Niemelainen to Canes was the secret plot in it all along.

I suppose it just figures that one of the very few times we get a proposal on here that's actually pretty reasonable for the Jackets it turns out it's because we're only there as cover for a completely unrelated trade fleecing plot. Guess we're only here for prospect laundering.

 

[Stubu]

I suppose it just figures that one of the very few times we get a proposal on here that's actually pretty reasonable for the Jackets it turns out it's because we're only there as cover for a completely unrelated trade fleecing plot. Guess we're only here for prospect laundering.

You folks need Jar-Jar stopping to be such a hardass.

(As if plenty high profile trades around your affable Jackets haven't happened over the last couple of years)

 

[Viqsi]

You folks need Jar-Jar stopping to be such a hardass.

(As if plenty high profile trades around your affable Jackets haven't happened over the last couple of years)

Oh, we've had plenty of trades that have gone very well; it's just that nobody here ever believed the returns we'd get until after they happened.

 

[Stubu]

I suppose it just figures that one of the very few times we get a proposal on here that's actually pretty reasonable for the Jackets it turns out it's because we're only there as cover for a completely unrelated trade fleecing plot. Guess we're only here for prospect laundering.

Reading again, I get your point. Well. Later.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Niemelainen goes no where. Especially not to flip Koskinen to Korpisalo which is at best a lateral move.

 

[McBooya42]

Explain why.

Niemelainen for one (nopety nope, we'll keep him thanks), and I want nothing to do with the Korps.

 

[belair]

that’s why I made it a three year sample. Korpisalo’s been ass his whole career outside of one playoff run. Merzlikins is a good goalie on a bad team - a good goalie that watched his best friend die this offseason.

It hasn't been his entire career. He's had sort stretches of really good results. And over the past two seasons he's been particularly bad.

I'm not a fan of using these stats as a gauge of how I believe this goalie will perform in a completely different situation either. I think his trade value is toast, but I wouldn't be any more confident with Varlamov in all honesty. I prefer the younger goalie and I prefer the ability to either re-sign or move on from him at year's end.

Goalies are a complete toss-up.