News Article: Colorado Avalanche Media Coverage Part VI

[henchman21]

I see this conversation is going exactly like it does on Twitter

Proof will simply be in the results of what happens. Soap boxing now on very little information could look foolish or prophetic, but soap boxing is all it is.

Personally, Twitter has been a mess for many years and only getting worse. I don’t think you can reasonably say things were going well there in 2021, 2020, 2019, and so on along with being on a great path. A change is needed. This might not be the right change, but the previous path was unsustainable. I know I have zero power to influence a damn thing, so I can only sit back and watch. Im open minded enough to wait and see where it goes. If it’s bad, it’ll fail. If it’s good, it’ll succeed. If it just stays purely addictive doom scrolling, it’ll end up like Facebook until we all live in the metaverse where we bicker, get more divided and head further towards the great filter. I know I lean in the great filter winning out. Can’t beat the trend.

 

[The Merchant]

Oh no, I complete understand the context, and your comment still sucks.

Sure thing big guy. Maybe try formulating a single coherent thought next time so you can attempt at adding to the conversation whatsoever. Just a suggestion.

 

[Foppberg]

Lol Twitter will barely survive the next 5 years, the next Tumblr. I don’t think companies are going to want their names and brand’s associated with a bunch of unfiltered neonazi’s and radicals. It’ll just become a right wing circle jerk platform where you can never speak badly about Tesla.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Just ridiculous that you should have to pay to verify yourself.

It's even more ridiculous that IG manipulates the algorithm to steal likes so it can then charge you to promote your photos in order to get likes back.

It's not like this is the first shakedown on social media. But at least it's happening to celebrities/people with big accounts.

 

[henchman21]

Lol Twitter will barely survive the next 5 years, the next Tumblr. I don’t think companies are going to want their names and brand’s associated with a bunch of unfiltered neonazi’s and radicals. It’ll just become a right wing circle jerk platform where you can never speak badly about Tesla.

For partially the reason you say, it is very unlikely to end up and ultra right platform. Potentially could fail, I’d even say strong chance as more and more people reject social media. We’re likely going through the next phase of consolidation in that area before the next boom cycle hits.

The propaganda around this is interesting though. One side saying that without extreme moderation, it’ll be a cesspool of the worst of the worst. Other side saying they are finally free of the chains and free to say whatever they want no matter how hateful or incendiary. When you tend to look at extremes like this, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

 

[Hasbro]

If this happens, have fun differentiating between legit and fake accounts.

Competent reporting=fake

I could totally see some nefarious gambling syndicates using it to screw with the market. Stocks probably will see the same. Will totally undermine Twitter and maybe that's for the best.

People ruining their careers with dumbass tweets might slow down.

 

[Bender]

I guess this is the new Avs beat writer for the Denver Post: Bennett Durando.

I saw a lot of posts about a guy we will all more than likely ignore.

If he can manage NOT to become a laughing stock that would be a big win for him.

 

[Foppberg]

For partially the reason you say, it is very unlikely to end up and ultra right platform. Potentially could fail, I’d even say strong chance as more and more people reject social media. We’re likely going through the next phase of consolidation in that area before the next boom cycle hits.

The propaganda around this is interesting though. One side saying that without extreme moderation, it’ll be a cesspool of the worst of the worst. Other side saying they are finally free of the chains and free to say whatever they want no matter how hateful or incendiary. When you tend to look at extremes like this, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

Closer to the former though, the latter is a just a Trojan horse for hate and further extremism.

I think it’ll go one of two ways… Either sponsors/companies leave en masse and it spirals down into a Tumblr esque path, with Musk playing the victim and blaming wokeism or some other cliché.

Or.. he realizes “wait I can’t actually do this Wild West thing”, and moderates things just enough so sponsors stick around.

Option 1 is ideal though.

 

[henchman21]

Closer to the former though, the latter is a just a Trojan horse for hate and further extremism.

I think it’ll go one of two ways… Either sponsors/companies leave en masse and it spirals down into a Tumblr esque path, with Musk playing the victim and blaming wokeism or some other cliché.

Or.. he realizes “wait I can’t actually do this Wild West thing”, and actually moderates things just enough so sponsors stick around.

IMO Impossible to really say for sure right now. I’m betting that the extremes on both sides end up rather unhappy.

 

[Foppberg]

IMO Impossible to really say for sure right now. I’m betting that the extremes on both sides end up rather unhappy.

Either way I think we see a new “Twitter” pop up. Jack Dorsey is working on a new one apparently, it’ll be interesting where things go from here. Social media as a concept is amazing but like most things a few assholes f*** it up for everyone.

 

[henchman21]

Either way I think we see a new “Twitter” pop up. Jack Dorsey is working on a new one apparently, it’ll be interesting where things go from here. Social media as a concept is amazing but like most things a few assholes f*** it up for everyone.

There will always be new ones popping up. Something new to steal some users. I will follow anything Jack does as I think he’s a pretty brilliant mind (poor CEO though). With that, he’s not really building a social media site… he’s building a blockchain protocol that social media sites can live on with the idea that it gives the users the power of their own profile where their data stays private (and anonymous) if they want. Allows them to move freely between which ever sites want to live on there, and the companies don’t have any control of an individual’s data or information (maybe not even access)… meaning they can’t sell based off of it or track it. Along with that, users can opt into the algorithm they want to see, not one decided for them. More private, more anonymous… or more transparent, more open.

Media is hyping it as a social media competitor, where it is really more of seismic change from the data broker model to a user powered model. Which, they only way to really fund that right now is a pay to play model (or pay by allowing them to use energy/compute resources) vs the data sales currently. Highly interesting concept to me and is likely the future of interaction on the internet.

 

[SuperJoe]

If Elon buys Twitter only to run it into the ground it'll be the least surprising thing ever.

Why would he run it into the ground?

 

[Ararana]

Why would he run it into the ground?

Apparently one of the smartest guys of our generation is guaranteed to run one of his biggest acquisitions into the ground after owning it for five seconds because a bunch of nobodies on the internet don't understand how economics work.

 

[Pokecheque]

Apparently one of the smartest guys of our generation is guaranteed to run one of his biggest acquisitions into the ground after owning it for five seconds because a bunch of nobodies on the internet don't understand how economics work.

Uh-huh. Smartest guys eh? Funny.

 

[Ararana]

Uh-huh. Smartest guys eh? Funny.

Every time I go fishing, I know you'll be biting

 

[henchman21]

Elon says and does some pretty dumb things (buying Twitter in general was a pretty stupid ego driven thing), but he is very clearly an incredibly smart individual. He's basically the modern Howard Hughes with a lot of the same good and bad traits.

 

[Pokecheque]

Elon says and does some pretty dumb things (buying Twitter in general was a pretty stupid ego driven thing), but he is very clearly an incredibly smart individual. He's basically the modern Howard Hughes with a lot of the same good and bad traits.

HH is a good comparison. But at least Hughes tended to keep to himself (in the end he took that to its most extreme conclusion). Elon just will not go away.

Yes, I know he's an extremely smart person but the cult of personality that surrounds him pushing the myth that he's a real-life Tony Stark (which has always been and always will be his end goal) becomes grating at times.

 

[sethro109]

Elon is basically Steve Jobs 2.0. They're not the main brains behind their projects, but they have that business charisma that attracts patrons and investors like crazy.

 

[henchman21]

HH is a good comparison. But at least Hughes tended to keep to himself (in the end he took that to its most extreme conclusion). Elon just will not go away.

Yes, I know he's an extremely smart person but the cult of personality that surrounds him pushing the myth that he's a real-life Tony Stark (which has always been and always will be his end goal) becomes grating at times.

At some point Elon will probably fade into the background too... At Elon's age, Hughes was pumping the Spruce Goose and making a bunch of noise about trans Atlantic flight. If Hughes was alive today, he'd get the hyperfocused attention too. Just how we live with constant media and connection to the internet. Hughes' love life in the 30s would have set the internet on fire.

It can be grating... but simply put, nobody else in the last 50-60+ years has accomplished as much as his various companies have in different areas. He makes bold claims, is arrogant, inserts himself into too many things and conversations... but his prowess shouldn't really be doubt. He still can fail and make mistakes (some of which have almost killed his companies), but the reason that cult exists is he's simply produced things that people said could never be done in a number of different areas.

Elon is basically Steve Jobs 2.0. They're not the main brains behind their projects, but they have that business charisma that attracts patrons and investors like crazy.

He's way closer to Hughes than Jobs. Musk and Hughes are both great leaders who have innovative visions, but ultra demanding and controversial, yet technical. Jobs was a persona who was arguably the most ruthless businessman since the Rockefellers. He could take really any good idea, refine it, and find a way to make his company take the lionshare of profits through clever marketing and bending anybody over who wanted a piece. iTunes was arguably one of the most one-sided deals of all time... and Apple one upped it with the App Store. Their strangle hold based on Jobs' vision is just unreal and insanely ruthless.

 

[McMetal]

Musk has the cult of personality around him because of shrewd self-marketing. He is, at best, a mildly crazy person who has delusions of grandeur. Lots of his big picture ideas about the robot apocalypse and going to Mars are just stone cold crazy more then visionary. He's done a very good job of building up this hype around himself, but most of it is not really warranted based on what he's actually done.

 

[Foppberg]

Musk is a dangerous egomaniac who's obsessed with being seen as an all time great innovator. Incredibly smart, but a pretty faulty moral compass.

 

[henchman21]

Musk has the cult of personality around him because of shrewd self-marketing. He is, at best, a mildly crazy person who has delusions of grandeur. Lots of his big picture ideas about the robot apocalypse and going to Mars are just stone cold crazy more then visionary. He's done a very good job of building up this hype around himself, but most of it is not really warranted based on what he's actually done.

So you don't think reusable rockets, online payments, mass production of EV, and private space flight are not massive accomplishments? Those are just the main ones...

I agree people can go way too far with his praise, and Mars is likely nothing but a pure pipedream for anyone born before 2100. But the guy has accomplished and changed a lot...

 

[Balthazar]

So you don't think reusable rockets, online payments, mass production of EV, and private space flight are not massive accomplishments? Those are just the main ones...

I agree people can go way too far with his praise, and Mars is likely nothing but a pure pipedream for anyone born before 2100. But the guy has accomplished and changed a lot...

Likely more than all the people on this board combined (and it's not close).

 

[Ceremony]

Elon Musk is a fanny. His weirdo fans are even bigger fannies.

I just don't get why so many people seem desperate to defend someone who, at best, is an annoying media presence.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I simply don't understand the grief he gets.

Don't get me wrong, I think his acolytes and crypto-bros or whatever are really pretty looney as well. But why do folks hate or appear to fear Musk so much?