Player Discussion: Cole Perfetti 10th OA pick

[bumblebeeman]

^^ Above posts, and it's probably been a while since Perfetti had to play a role other than being "the guy". And tournaments are weird. I think the consensus was Lundell was the safer pick because of size and being closer to NHL ready while Perfetti probably has the higher upside. I still haven't managed to really watch Perfetti play, but sounds like maybe he is a year or two away from being ready for the big league, which honestly shouldn't surprise anyone. He seems a bit of a baby face, that might bode well for the Jets.

I didn't think many scouts thought Lundell had top line potential at the draft, Perfetti did/does tho.

 

[pucka lucka]

Perfetti needs to improve his first few steps. He's missing some quick acceleration that will create some room when he needs it. I don't think his skating outside of that is a problem. It would also alleviate some of the immediate need for extra strength

 

[surixon]

Perfetti needs to improve his first few steps. He's missing some quick acceleration that will create some room when he needs it. I don't think his skating outside of that is a problem. It would also alleviate some of the immediate need for extra strength

That is why I want him in an AHL that looks like it will be playing fewer games that are spread out. It will allow the Jets development staff to work on his strength and skating while still allowing him to see regular game action. I think a college based approach would be more beneficial for him at this point then going back and playing a bunch of OHL games.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

I feel like Perfetti is a player that wouldn't benefit that much from another year in the OHL. The need to improve his first step, cheating on the breakout and gliding back to the d zone.. he could light up the OHL next year without fixing any of those. I'd rather see him play in Europe where he'll have to earn his minutes from vets.

 

[jgimp]

Lundell was a big fish in a small pond, Perfetti was a normal sized fish in an ocean. When you're one of the few players on your team capable of producing you have your whole team looking to give you the puck and work the play through you.

Don’t disagree and I’m happy with the Perfetti pick, but Lundell has been playing well in a mans league and carried over that play into the worlds biggest junior tourney. Lundell is more NHL ready but has a limited ceiling, while Perfetti has a higher ceiling, but a longer road to get there. Either pick would have been good choice

 

[ICdave]

In quarantine in Winnipeg, he spoke on the final day of training camp:

 

[ps241]

Sharp kid.

With the New Covid strain hitting Ontario and the state of emergency declared for the next month I don’t think the OHL will go anytime soon I expect Cole to be in the AHL this season at least to start.

 

[Mud Turtle]

In quarantine in Winnipeg, he spoke on the final day of training camp:

Very poised for an 18 year old.
Quite impressive.

 

[surixon]

Sharp kid.

With the New Covid strain hitting Ontario and the state of emergency declared for the next month I don’t think the OHL will go anytime soon I expect Cole to be in the AHL this season at least to start.

Best place possible for his development. I love how Vincent works with our young guys.

 

[ps241]

Best place possible for his development. I love how Vincent works with our young guys.

I tend to agree. Cole is not ready for the NHL but I think he could develop well in the AHL under Vincent. In the OHL they are trying to win games in the AHL it never hurts to win but their top priority is player development and Cole would be a top priority.

 

[Romang67]

On top of that, I feel like he'll be forced to develop his first few steps in the AHL in a way he simply wouldn't have to in the OHL. He's likely a better skater now than he was last season, and he already demolished the OHL last season. I'm not saying that I think Cole would slack off just because he could, but I think it's a better motivator when he sees how necessary it will be against adult players.

 

[surixon]

I tend to agree. Cole is not ready for the NHL but I think he could develop well in the AHL under Vincent. In the OHL they are trying to win games in the AHL it never hurts to win but their top priority is player development and Cole would be a top priority.

We could also start his transition to center in an environment that the team can control.

 

[ps241]

On top of that, I feel like he'll be forced to develop his first few steps in the AHL in a way he simply wouldn't have to in the OHL. He's likely a better skater now than he was last season, and he already demolished the OHL last season. I'm not saying that I think Cole would slack off just because he could, but I think it's a better motivator when he sees how necessary it will be against adult players.

Yea the AHL is not an easy league and its a really big step up from the OHL. It would be a very big challenge for Cole right now.

 

[ps241]

We could also start his transition to center in an environment that the team can control.

That is really the key they can take this season and focus on Cole learning to play Center against men.

 

[surixon]

On top of that, I feel like he'll be forced to develop his first few steps in the AHL in a way he simply wouldn't have to in the OHL. He's likely a better skater now than he was last season, and he already demolished the OHL last season. I'm not saying that I think Cole would slack off just because he could, but I think it's a better motivator when he sees how necessary it will be against adult players.

Exactly. Also it sounds like AHL games are likely to be spread out in the beginning which would also allow Cole a lot of time between games to work with the development staff on his strength and skating.

 

[Edgar Halliwax]

I get a bit of a kick regarding the criticism of Perfetti's skating. Don't "@" me because this is not meant to be a direct comparison. But I wonder if HF Boards were around in 1981 what you guys and gals would be saying about Dale Hawerchuck's awkward skating style... He certainly wasn't fast by any measure.

Perfetti will be fine. He needs to mature a bit more and will get stronger and faster - fast enough at least - to be a good NHL player.

 

[Mathil8]

Exactly. Also it sounds like AHL games are likely to be spread out in the beginning which would also allow Cole a lot of time between games to work with the development staff on his strength and skating.

Could unexpectedly be the ultimate development environment for him .

 

[Whileee]

I wonder if Perfetti might be a good option to develop at RW, if not at C. He tends to be very effective at setting things up from the right side.

 

[Edgar Halliwax]

I get a bit of a kick regarding the criticism of Perfetti's skating. Don't "@" me because this is not meant to be a direct comparison. But I wonder if HF Boards were around in 1981 what you guys and gals would be saying about Dale Hawerchuck's awkward skating style... in fact his nickname Ducky was because of his skating style. He certainly wasn't fast by any measure.

Perfetti will be fine. He needs to mature a bit more and will get stronger and faster - fast enough at least - to be a good NHL player.

 

[Boxertim]

I get a bit of a kick regarding the criticism of Perfetti's skating. Don't "@" me because this is not meant to be a direct comparison. But I wonder if HF Boards were around in 1981 what you guys and gals would be saying about Dale Hawerchuck's awkward skating style... He certainly wasn't fast by any measure.

Perfetti will be fine. He needs to mature a bit more and will get stronger and faster - fast enough at least - to be a good NHL player.

I didn’t like his shot either...

 

[Finster8]

I didn’t like his shot either...

Cole has great hands and a very good shot. I'm judging that on 2 years of watching him in Saginaw. The scouts are wrong as well, I suppose. That's just old fashion BS.

 

[mike the carpenter]

Maybe the best place for Perfetti is somewhere in the Blue Jackets system . If Chevy gets some assurance that PLD would accept a trade to Winnipeg (no guarantee there), I’d be trying to send Perfetti and Roslovic to Columbus. PLD would fit perfectly here and his addition would make the Jets a contender while Wheeler and others are still prime time players.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Maybe the best place for Perfetti is somewhere in the Blue Jackets system . If Chevy gets some assurance that PLD would accept a trade to Winnipeg (no guarantee there), I’d be trying to send Perfetti and Roslovic to Columbus. PLD would fit perfectly here and his addition would make the Jets a contender while Wheeler and others are still prime time players.

PLD does not have veto rights to any trade, nor can he and his agent make any assurance at this time that a long term commitment would happen. PLD would be as much a risk for taking the short road to UFA as Laine seems to be.

 

[ps241]

I get a bit of a kick regarding the criticism of Perfetti's skating. Don't "@" me because this is not meant to be a direct comparison. But I wonder if HF Boards were around in 1981 what you guys and gals would be saying about Dale Hawerchuck's awkward skating style... He certainly wasn't fast by any measure.

Perfetti will be fine. He needs to mature a bit more and will get stronger and faster - fast enough at least - to be a good NHL player.

I realize the WJC was a bucket of cold water thrown on the Perfetti bandwagon which is great. I don’t really like crowds and nothing has changed for me. The cold water missed me.

I thought I would go back to study Nick Suzuki and review some the scouting reports on him going into his draft.

Almost all the reports recognized that he had IQ and skill but he was really inconsistent and didn’t show up some nights. Pretty much every scout felt the 5’11” prospect would need to play wing in the NHL due to his limitations.

Seems like the Scouts didn’t anticipate Suzuki would fill out, grow his game, and progress to the point he is a really solid top 6 centre.

That’s the thing about prospects. If they work at it they do grow, progress, and things change.

When I watched Perfetti in the WJC I saw pretty clearly what he needs to add. However, I also saw a player when given the opportunity that was one of the forwards that could enter and exit zones well. He was also positionally responsible and was good at his defensive assignments and reads. I liked that as a scorer he was engaged in all 200 feet of the ice and was looking for ways to create turn overs.

Yes Cole needs to continue to develop some physical attributes just like he needed to do on draft day. For better (Heinola) or for worse (most of the 2020 drafted Canadians) the WJC is always way over emphasized.

Feels like the Scheiele days all over again and I am use to it although I miss my sidekick GIN

 

[Tommigun]

Sharp kid.

With the New Covid strain hitting Ontario and the state of emergency declared for the next month I don’t think the OHL will go anytime soon I expect Cole to be in the AHL this season at least to start.

Shouldn’t a high first round pick play in the AHL anyway? What could he possibly learn by playing against kids anymore?