Player Discussion Cole Caufield: The little man with the big future.
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I don’t know. But they better sign him soon. Imagine a big RFA offer coming in… that would be so brutal.
I just don't think he will take that. I would be thrilled with $7MAAV, though I would like the 8th year and add little for it if that's the range we are in. I'm just thinking he will want more.
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Those bridge deals for top players are risky. Guy has 3 years behind him, a 2 year bridge and then he arbitrates himself to UFA status in 2 more years.
Obviously the downside is he underperforms. But if you believe in the guy then you sign him. I dont see how we don't believe in CC. He has scored at prolific rates at every single level, and has shown he can keep it up at the NHL level.
Obviously the downside is he underperforms. But if you believe in the guy then you sign him. I dont see how we don't believe in CC. He has scored at prolific rates at every single level, and has shown he can keep it up at the NHL level.
Go on ya drongo that's not a story it's a choice between 2 wingers.lol
Are you not aware Mc David is a center?
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Give him the same as Suzuki and be done with it. Lock him up and move on.
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I’d rather invest in future performance than pay for past glories. The Suzuki contract is an overpay but within context it is a fine bet.
If Cole wants to play tough he will ask for a 8.5 cap hit that is five or so years long taking him to UFA or UFA-1 with a prohibitively high QO like Jason Robertson signed.
Can’t say we have better options. He holds all the cards.
If Cole wants to play tough he will ask for a 8.5 cap hit that is five or so years long taking him to UFA or UFA-1 with a prohibitively high QO like Jason Robertson signed.
Can’t say we have better options. He holds all the cards.
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Isn't the impasse that Caufield isn't interested in such a deal? I could be wrong but I thought he wants a shorter-term deal to cash in again later. If he was willing to take the Suzuki deal, hard to think he wouldn't already be signed.
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I agree. He does hold all the cards. It's like when people made fun of Toronto for giving Matthews a 5-year deal when he wanted that. What are they going to do, trade him? That's what his talent dictates. He can pretty much set the terms.
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ive a feeling CC wants a 4-5 year deal.
gonna bet on being at the top of his game when habs (hopefully) enter their window, and either bail when they fail or sign a yuge contract if he likes the direction/potential.
gonna bet on being at the top of his game when habs (hopefully) enter their window, and either bail when they fail or sign a yuge contract if he likes the direction/potential.
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I get that Cole has some leverage due to his skill, youth and abilities. I love him as much as anyone, but what has he really done to earn a 8.5M 5 year deal, honestly?
If the habs are going to pony up a 8.5 per year contract, it should be at a longer term than 5 years, he just hasn't done enough (yet) to warrant such a price IMO.
If he wants a shorter term deal, (5 years,) the most i'm offering is 7 to 7.5M a season. If he has fulfilled his potential at that point, then he can ask for more.
If the habs are going to pony up a 8.5 per year contract, it should be at a longer term than 5 years, he just hasn't done enough (yet) to warrant such a price IMO.
If he wants a shorter term deal, (5 years,) the most i'm offering is 7 to 7.5M a season. If he has fulfilled his potential at that point, then he can ask for more.
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The risk is that some team comes in and offers him ten.
What do you do then?
As for what he’s done: 47 goals in his last 82 games.
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Yeah he definitely has leverage with the risk involved. And maybe I'm being naive, but I really thinks he wants to be a hab. I'm just looking for a fair deal for both. 7.5M for 5 yrs or 9M for 8 yrs would be my absolute ceiling as GM.
Both are way too expensive for me. Robertson is a more complete player and costs just a bit more and he had a > PPG season before signing his deal. Caufield seems like a very good goal scorer, but he has not proven anything over a full season yet and he was -10 while not playing during the awful end of year stretxh of games. I don‘t see how he deserves those deals.
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My thought would be that he’d take the Suzuki deal. Yes it’s more than I’d like to pay but I think he’ll earn it anyway.
Answer my question though, would do you do if another team offers ten mil? I mean…
I guess we’d have no choice but to pay it. You can’t let him walk. This isn’t KK we’re talking about.
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-10 means zero. Esp on this team.
Caufield did more than score goals in that stretch too. He set up a lot of players who couldn’t score. He was the only consistent player on the roster last season. And he had an injury in the last month or so he was playing. He’s 21 years old and he put up 47 goals in his last 82 games. You’re going to have to pay for that.
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My guess is that it's simply not been a priority for either side yet. If both sides feel like they are relatively close (Which was the rumor not too long ago) then it could easily be a case of Hughes being busy with the draft, watching prospects in the CHL playoffs, etc... and that there's a plan to circle back with Caufield once there's a bit more free time.
That said, if Caufield is hesitant to sign long term right now perhaps the issue isn't maximizing money but about if/when the team will be back in the playoffs. Let's not forget Caufield went to the SCF as a rookie, he's no doubt itching to get back. There's a myth that only vets care about the team being in a rebuild but that's really not the case, especially when talking about a young guy who was just a few wins away from the cup. So perhaps his concern is that there will be an eternal rebuild like we've seen with other teams. In that case the whole trade for PLD takes on another dimension as that would be a sign of management being committed to becoming a playoff team.
That said, if Caufield is hesitant to sign long term right now perhaps the issue isn't maximizing money but about if/when the team will be back in the playoffs. Let's not forget Caufield went to the SCF as a rookie, he's no doubt itching to get back. There's a myth that only vets care about the team being in a rebuild but that's really not the case, especially when talking about a young guy who was just a few wins away from the cup. So perhaps his concern is that there will be an eternal rebuild like we've seen with other teams. In that case the whole trade for PLD takes on another dimension as that would be a sign of management being committed to becoming a playoff team.
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If a team offersheets him for 10 you take 4 1st round pucks from a mediocre to bad team since no good teams have cap space.
Nobody is coming in and offering 10 million dollars for Cole Caufield. If the contract became a real issue HuGo would trade him before that ever happened.My thought would be that he’d take the Suzuki deal. Yes it’s more than I’d like to pay but I think he’ll earn it anyway.
Answer my question though, would do you do if another team offers ten mil? I mean…
I think we actually have a reverse of the Subban situation. A bridge deal might not be a bad thing before opening the coffers long term. I'm not worried about the goal scoring but if he wants serious dough he has to prove he can stay healthy and improve other aspects of his game.
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