Confirmed Trade: [COL/SJS] Mackenzie Blackwood, Givani Smith, 2027 5th for Alexandar Georgiev (14% ret.), Nikolai Kovalenko, 2026 2nd, cond. 2025 4th

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San Jose absolutely cleaned up. It's a lateral move in net for a mid twenties bottom six guy and a second.
Blackwood can play, Georgiev is one of the worst goalies in the league and a questionable lockeroom guy.

Crazy how many people are sleeping on Blackwood. He plays on the worst team in the league and is still solid, imagine him with talent in front of him.
 

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Blackwood to Georgiev is a lateral move?
Talent wise probably.
Blackwood can play, Georgiev is one of the worst goalies in the league and a questionable lockeroom guy.

Crazy how many people are sleeping on Blackwood. He plays on the worst team in the league and is still solid, imagine him with talent in front of him.
Georgiev is a mental midget. He's also super talented. Arvid Soderblom raised his save percentage forty points this year. Same goalie.
 

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Blackwood has a .911 sv % on a bottom dweller and according to you isn't good. But Georgiev has an .87x on a much better team in the Avs, and you think the trade was a lateral move?

Some days I want to burn down the internet based on the absolutely ridiculous stuff that gets posted on it.
 

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Blackwood has a .911 sv % on a bottom dweller and according to you isn't good. But Georgiev has an .87x on a much better team in the Avs, and you think the trade was a lateral move?

Some days I want to burn down the internet based on the absolutely ridiculous stuff that gets posted on it.
We'll find out. I think both aren't very good. How much was Mrazek worth on the worst team in the league when twenty games in he had a .920 sv%?

What's Arvid Soderblom worth?
 
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Blackwood has a .911 sv % on a bottom dweller and according to you isn't good. But Georgiev has an .87x on a much better team in the Avs, and you think the trade was a lateral move?

Some days I want to burn down the internet based on the absolutely ridiculous stuff that gets posted on it.
Avs needed to make this move based on how Georgiev’s season has gone so far but nobody would have blinked if you called Georgiev for Blackwood a lateral move two months ago. It’s still not a ridiculous statement today.
 

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We'll find out. I think both aren't very good. How much was Mrazek worth on the worst team in the league when twenty games in he had a .920 sv%?

What's Arvid Soderblom worth?
Mrazek is 32 and has a track record of not being able to perform on a contender, hence why Toronto dumped him and Carolina opted to let him walk.

Blackwood is a question mark, but he's the best question mark available (albeit you can make an argument for Gibson). Yes, better than Mrazek and Soderblom if that's what you're insinuating.
 

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Karlsson, Meier and Hertl turned into Dickinson, Granlund, Muhkamadulin, Musty, Zetterlund, Askarov, and some later picks. That's great value given where the team was contract wise. It also set them up to draft first overall last year,
Dickinson, Muhkamadulin, Musty, and Askarov have barley played in the NHL if at all, and sure the potential is there but it's just that, potential. Karlsson, Meier and Hertl are very good NHL players already. And saying that your 1OA draft pick is considered part of the trade because the team was so bad is like saying it's a good thing your house burned down because you got to collect insurance money.
 

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Dickinson, Muhkamadulin, Musty, and Askarov have barely played in the NHL if at all, and sure the potential is there but it's just that, potential. Karlsson, Meier and Hertl are very good NHL players already. And saying that your 1OA draft pick is considered part of the trade because the team was so bad is like saying it's a good thing your house burned down because you got to collect insurance money.
I was going to explain to you how rebuilds work but then I realized you literally made an HF Boards to crap in Mike Grier, so I'm disinclined to take you seriously here.
 
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I don't think Grier got very good value in the Karlsson, Burns, Meier or Hertl trades, but they made a lot of strategic sense and he was somewhat handcuffed. I think the trades this last offseason and this have been good. You can see how he's building the team right now and I think its a good strategy.

The only one I'll grant you is the Burns deal. Grier got good to great value out of the other ones given the cap numbers he shed with the assets along with them. He got two top 6 forwards and 4 high quality prospects while removing 30 million in cap space
 

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Blackwood isn't good. He doesn't have the downside but yeesh he's not my guy if I'm gunning for trophy's.
Just curious, of the guys who are available, who would be your choice if you're 'gunning for trophies?'

By almost all accounts, Blackwood was the best available option. He's not perfect, but the Avs just need stability. If he can bring that in 80% or more of his starts that's a huge upgrade for the level of play Georgiev has been at for over a season.

The big difference for me in the two (and again, of available options) is that Blackwood can steal you a game. Georgiev hasn't been able to do that in over a calendar year, his best is usually just doing enough to let you win. That ability is an absolute necessity to a contender in this day and age.

I'm not going to argue that it's not great asset management and I'm not thirlled with losing Kovalenko. MacFarland paid for his lack of proactivity in the offseason. But it was the best option he could have chosen as of today.
 
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This trade was obvious a mile away - I called it out a month or so ago but too lazy to link myself 😂
That's pretty ****ing lazy!

The Avs really should have kept Sakic as GM
Sakic semiretired after getting the Cup and GM of the year. He's President now.

Anyway, not like there was a huge change of how things ran. CMac was very involved when Sakic was GM.
 
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Yeah but they got a 2nd and Kovalenko out of it. That's not nothing and there's a very real chance this doesn't solve the Avs goalie woes because Blackwood hasn't had a good season, before this season, since before Covid, plus the injuries. Worth a swing I guess but he's just as much a question mark as the goalie they sent out.

Grier turned a 6th into a 2nd and Kovalenko, that's a nice piece of business by him.
It's good for Sharks. And Blackwood is a question mark. But Gerogiev isn't. He's absolute trash, and I'm good with taking a gamble on having a chance at an improvement.
 
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You know what this trade means for the Sharks right? That Martone/Schaefer/Misa/Hagens will be in teal next season. That's what this trade ensured will happen. This low-key trade in the middle of December might be the best thing that Grier can do for the club for a better draft prospect at the end of this season.
 
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