Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] G Mackenzie Blackwood signs extension with the Avalanche (5 years, $5.25M AAV)

Romang67

BitterSwede
Jan 2, 2011
32,339
26,991
Evanston, IL
The issue with calculations based on assumptions is that the results are only as good as the assumptions themselves. Unless you can prove your assumption to actually be true, the results will always be questionable at best.
Which assumption in the expected goals calculations do you disagree with?

Because IMO, they are all fairly reasonable. Again, the assumptions in those calculations are core in the game of hockey.

If you ask a hockey coach what you should do to increase your chances of scoring a goal, they are going to say essentially the same thing as those calculations say will increase your chances of scoring a goal (shoot from a close distance in front of the net instead of from bad angles, crash on rebounds, try to have the puck cross the center of the ice before the shot).
 

Bleedred

#InstagramHockey
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
135,531
66,473
If we're now living in a world where goalies like Daccord and Blackwood are getting paid $5 million + per year and 5 year deals? Hoo boy, it could get ugly.

I can't wait to see what the Oilers give bum ass Skinner when his deal is up. And him and his agent will even use the ''I got them to game 7 of the finals tho!'' despite his miserable play those playoffs, and leaving Edmonton for dead a couple of times in the earlier rounds.
 

Colorado Avalanche

No Babe pictures
Sponsor
Apr 24, 2004
29,731
10,074
Lieto
If we're now living in a world where goalies like Daccord and Blackwood are getting paid $5 million + per year and 5 year deals? Hoo boy, it could get ugly.

I can't wait to see what the Oilers give bum ass Skinner when his deal is up. And him and his agent will even use the ''I got them to game 7 of the finals tho!'' despite his miserable play those playoffs, and leaving Edmonton for dead a couple of times in the earlier rounds.
Average goaltenders have made this much for a long time. Now it's a bit bigger amount, because higher cap. That's all. Nothing has changed.
 

PattyLafontaine

Registered User
Apr 5, 2006
2,941
1,362
If we're now living in a world where goalies like Daccord and Blackwood are getting paid $5 million + per year and 5 year deals? Hoo boy, it could get ugly.

I can't wait to see what the Oilers give bum ass Skinner when his deal is up. And him and his agent will even use the ''I got them to game 7 of the finals tho!'' despite his miserable play those playoffs, and leaving Edmonton for dead a couple of times in the earlier rounds.

Then what are Swayman, Skinner, Bobrovsky and Binnington then? As they all have sub .900 sv this year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: chaz4hockey

TheBeard

He fixes the cable?
Jul 12, 2019
19,350
22,630
Vegass
well that's a lot of trust to be given so quickly since its 5x
Term is pointless since the cap is gonna be like 30 million higher by the time he's in the final year of his deal. Teams are smart to get term now knowing that salaries are gonna be like 30-40% higher on average before we know it.
 

sxvnert

Registered User
Nov 23, 2015
13,021
8,271
Getting 25m up front for mini heater is insane regardless of how it turns out.
 

Tralfamadore

Don't Panic.
Sep 25, 2011
9,401
8,548
Binnington is better than every Avs goalie since Roy.

Binnington career save % .907

Blackwood career save % .905

Kuemper career save % .914 and .921 with the Avs.

Varlamov save % with the Avs was consistently above .907

He's barely put up better numbers than the goalie everyone in this thread is bashing while spending time on a cup competing team.

Ffs even Grubauer has a better career save %

Binnington also makes 750,000 more per year than the contract everyone is shitting on.
 

TheKrebsCycle

Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
Jun 1, 2011
7,288
2,780
Barrie
If we're now living in a world where goalies like Daccord and Blackwood are getting paid $5 million + per year and 5 year deals? Hoo boy, it could get ugly.

I can't wait to see what the Oilers give bum ass Skinner when his deal is up. And him and his agent will even use the ''I got them to game 7 of the finals tho!'' despite his miserable play those playoffs, and leaving Edmonton for dead a couple of times in the earlier rounds.
Daccord was excellent last year and excellent this year though . Also doesn’t have the injury history. Didn’t get much of a shot prior . So not quite the same scenario
 

soothsayer

Registered User
Oct 27, 2009
9,107
12,074
Why give him this contract now? What would have been the risk had the Avs just ... waited. Even if he got Vezina nominations at the end of the year, would he really command much more than what the Avs gave him after 4 games.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MasterofGrond

Bleedred

#InstagramHockey
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
135,531
66,473
Then what are Swayman, Skinner, Bobrovsky and Binnington then? As they all have sub .900 sv this year.
Ah, good to see! You're using a very recent set of standards here.

Now tell me how many of these goalies have Blackwood numbers of their last multiple years? Certainly not Swayman or Bobrovsky (he has had some bad regular seasons in Florida, so maybe it's not far off) and maybe Binnington, who isn't all that good.

Skinner is f***in shit. He'll be the next to get a contract like this because the Oilers are dumb.

Look at what guys like Campbell, Husso and Korpisalo got in free agency recently.

Would someone offer more than this to Blackwood if he takes the Avs for a run? Yes, absolutely.
Those contracts were all bad. I forgot about Campbell and Husso. So this probably started a little bit before the recent Daccord extension.

Korpisalo and Campbell were UFA's. And I said this going back to July 1st of 2023 that Korpisalo was by far the worst contract of that UFA day.
 

tmg

Registered User
Jul 10, 2003
3,016
1,841
Ottawa
Of course Edmonton will give Skinner a bad contract - not because they’re dumb, but because there’ll be no options. When even mid goalies like Daccord and Blackwood are pre-emptively removed from the UFA market … summer becomes a boring game of musical chairs “oh look, there’s one chair and one goalie with any starter history”. Skinner will get paid because there’ll be nobody out there that’s any better. Which is saying more about the market than it does about Skinner.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Guttersniped

Bleedred

#InstagramHockey
Sponsor
May 1, 2011
135,531
66,473
Of course Edmonton will give Skinner a bad contract - not because they’re dumb, but because there’ll be no options. When even mid goalies like Daccord and Blackwood are pre-emptively removed from the UFA market … summer becomes a boring game of musical chairs “oh look, there’s one chair and one goalie with any starter history”. Skinner will get paid because there’ll be nobody out there that’s any better. Which is saying more about the market than it does about Skinner.
I don’t even think Skinner is definitely better than Pickard, who is dirt cheap.
 

Tryblot

Registered User
Oct 4, 2009
8,195
3,017
Binnington career save % .907

Blackwood career save % .905

Kuemper career save % .914 and .921 with the Avs.

Varlamov save % with the Avs was consistently above .907

He's barely put up better numbers than the goalie everyone in this thread is bashing while spending time on a cup competing team.

Ffs even Grubauer has a better career save %

Binnington also makes 750,000 more per year than the contract everyone is shitting on.

Sv% is a completely irrelevant statistic that gives absolutely no information. It counts a shot from your own end the exact same as a breakaway.

The bottom line is, binnington won a cup when he stole the show. He went on the road in game 7 in the Stanley cup finals and carried the blues to the Stanley cup by making 22 saves in the first period alone, compared to st.louis' like 6?

He's also considered a front runner to make team canada.

Can you name a goalie on your list who has stolen a series, let alone a cup? I don't think so. Continue to look at the stat sheet though and act like you know what you're talking about.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: Bender and Mattb124

ClydeLee

Registered User
Mar 23, 2012
12,529
5,987
This time next year people will be eating crow, as is tradition with any Avs move and the hive mind of HF.
Huh? Since they won the cup every goalie decision they've made has been ridiculed and been justifiably made fun of.

The hatred of Krumper Avs fans seem to have more than outside fans makes no sense. When he was and is actually good, you know except when he had an injured eye.
 

NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS

Registered User
Oct 23, 2022
2,354
4,804
Sv% is a completely irrelevant statistic that gives absolutely no information. It counts a shot from your own end the exact same as a breakaway.

The bottom line is, binnington won a cup when he stole the show. He went on the road in game 7 in the Stanley cup finals and carried the blues to the Stanley cup by making 22 saves in the first period alone, compared to st.louis' like 6?

He's also considered a front runner to make team canada.

Can you name a goalie on your list who has stolen a series, let alone a cup? I don't think so. Continue to look at the stat sheet though and act like you know what you're talking about.
Kuemper was very close to stealing the Blues series. For the Blues.
 

gary559

Registered User
Oct 28, 2023
95
158
This is a good signing. Would rather have an average goaltender overpaid than a crap one, and this won't be overpayment in a year, only thing that I don't like is how it could potentially impact Nabokov.
 

Arthur Morgan

Registered User
Jul 6, 2016
9,136
6,392
Toronto
www.youtube.com
Term is pointless since the cap is gonna be like 30 million higher by the time he's in the final year of his deal. Teams are smart to get term now knowing that salaries are gonna be like 30-40% higher on average before we know it.
yeah that might be true, I kinda viewed Blackwood as a max 3x type guy but hopefully it works out for the avs
 

dirtydanglez

Registered User
Oct 30, 2022
5,699
5,785
untested with the avs but $5m for a goalie doesn't buy much anymore. if they can get 50ish games at .910 goaltending then it's a fair deal.

edit: also congrats to his dad who is apparently an avs fan.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: TatteredTornNFrayed

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad