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Confirmed Trade: [COL/BUF] Casey Mittelstadt for Bowen Byram

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BKarchitect said:
Definitely good mutual vibes on a night where both teams win by 4 goals and both players score lol.

I really think Byram will quickly pass Power in the minds of Sabres fans as their #2 blueline building block, as long as he stays healthy. Power has more pure offensive upside but I think he lacks the bite and energy Byram plays with. It’s something I think the Sabres needed. Bo’s definitely got that dog in him.
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Agreed. Power often looks like a baby elephant that is athletic but still filling out his massive frame. With his skill and frame, when he develops that bite/edge and learns to play within his frame, he’ll be scary.

Dahlin, Byram, and Power is just a world class d corps that is still young and learning to play within their system. Dahlin, when paired with Power is always fun. Having two cemented on one pair now gives the Sabres a dynamic firepower from the blue line that will come in handy as they fill out their roster this summer. All 3 can hold their own in their own zone.

Hopefully Adams doesn’t screw it up but I’ve got very little confidence that he knows how to build this team. However, Byram was a great addition and I can see why he made the move.
 
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In a vacuum the Avs might lose this trade but one thing that most people here don't know is this trade absolutely does not happen without the Walker trade (or Tanev as was reported Avs were in the running). The Avs absolutely wanted a Dman to replace what Bo was bringing on the Avs before making this trade. Mitts and Walker are extremely good fits on the Avs and that is all that matters when a team is a strong Cup contender and their window could be closing fast. I am confident the Avs will re-sign Walker as well. Mitts is a huge, huge upgrade on Ryjo and Walker is arguably replacing what Bo was on the Avs and a better fit. Wlaker is better on the PK which is very important for the Avs as well so they can reduce Makar's minutes.

Overall the Avs are much better than just prior the TDL so this trade is a win-win for both team. Let's all be happy and enjoy the rest of the season.
 
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Asymmetric Solution said:
Agreed. Power often looks like a baby elephant that is athletic but still filling out his massive frame. With his skill and frame, when he develops that bite/edge and learns to play within his frame, he’ll be scary.
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He's not going to develop an edge to his game. Hope for him to learn to be engaged with tying up his man or using his stick to deny people pucks but there is no dog in that kid when it comes to physical play.

Asymmetric Solution said:
Dahlin, Byram, and Power is just a world class d corps that is still young and learning to play within their system. Dahlin, when paired with Power is always fun. Having two cemented on one pair now gives the Sabres a dynamic firepower from the blue line that will come in handy as they fill out their roster this summer. All 3 can hold their own in their own zone.

Hopefully Adams doesn’t screw it up but I’ve got very little confidence that he knows how to build this team. However, Byram was a great addition and I can see why he made the move.
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Agreed, so far it looks like a move that has really energized them.
 
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Chainshot said:
He's not going to develop an edge to his game. Hope for him to learn to be engaged with tying up his man or using his stick to deny people pucks but there is no dog in that kid when it comes to physical play.
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He’s still young and I’ve noticed he’s upped it a bit this year compared to last. Dahlin took baby steps too, albeit faster than Power, and will now flatten anyone in his way. He definitely pays a price in both PIM and opposition targeting and that may be why Power has been slower to come around to that style of play.

I think he’ll develop it as he gets a bit older and stronger.
 
Asymmetric Solution said:
He’s still young and I’ve noticed he’s upped it a bit this year compared to last. Dahlin took baby steps too, albeit faster than Power, and will now flatten anyone in his way. He definitely pays a price in both PIM and opposition targeting and that may be why Power has been slower to come around to that style of play.

I think he’ll develop it as he gets a bit older and stronger.
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Dahlin showed his meaness and physicality overseas in lower leagues. Power has never showed it lower leagues even when he was a man amongst boys
 
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Bender said:
This to me is the most interesting aspect of the trade from a Sabres standpoint. Byram is doing very well with Buffalo to the surprise of practically ZERO Avs fans. Let's say he finishes the rest of this season with close to a PPG with the Sabres. At the end of this season, Byram will have 1 year left on his $3.85M contract - which will still leave him an RFA when it's over. How are the Sabres going to proceed ? Offer him an extension at the end of THIS season or wait it out at the risk of it costing maybe even more if he's able to produce at that clip over the course of a full season ?

From a Byram standpoint, if he sees Dahlin at $11M and Power already at $8.35M, is he really accepting less than $8.35M per year ??
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gotta be somewhere in between Power and Dahlin right? 8 x $9.5mm per.
 
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Beerz said:
Dahlin showed his meaness and physicality overseas in lower leagues. Power has never showed it lower leagues even when he was a man amongst boys
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With Power I always thought it was because for most of his hockey life physically he was a man amongst boys.

He didn’t want to hurt anyone and he didn’t have to hurt anyone, so he didn’t hurt anyone.

The NHL is literally the first time in his life he is up against competition that forces him to compete physically

He’s got a lot of learning to do on that front. He’ll never bash anyone, but he needs to get stronger, and, more importantly, assert his strength.

Byram’s assertive style is going to help him get there faster, IMO.

Internal competition can be a great thing.
 
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Beerz said:
Dahlin showed his meaness and physicality overseas in lower leagues. Power has never showed it lower leagues even when he was a man amongst boys
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I’m genuinely curious when Power was a main among boys? In the NCAA? Or USHL assuming your basing his that comment on his height?

Edit: I’m not saying you're wrong and that could be a big reason, Power’s physicality has yet to show itself. He only recently started playing against men and initially appeared intimidated last year. He looks much more comfortable this year while his production is down (could be early injuries).

Ok, back to Byram, Power’s new running mate.
 
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it's a shame power doesn't make more use of his size. if he fills out that 6'6" frame he could wreck the atlantic
 
BKarchitect said:
Definitely good mutual vibes on a night where both teams win by 4 goals and both players score lol.

I really think Byram will quickly pass Power in the minds of Sabres fans as their #2 blueline building block, as long as he stays healthy. Power has more pure offensive upside but I think he lacks the bite and energy Byram plays with. It’s something I think the Sabres needed. Bo’s definitely got that dog in him.
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Does Power have more pure offensive upside?? Watching Byram with the Giants he was creating offense almost like a Q.Hughes out there, youve seen some flashes in the NHL but I think he's got a ton to give on that end.

I really love Byram. You originally wondered about the fit but if he keeps playing like this & more it won't be a question.

Good on Buffalo to sell Mittelstadt when they did & pickup a stud like Bo. Not that Mittelstadt can't be good in Colorado (targetting someone that age was smart for them imo) but it's also good for Buffalo to shakeup the core a bit with that kind of move.
 
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This propensity to declare someone the winner of a trade after like what, three games in is kind of puzzling to me and it's not like as a Sabres fan I wouldn't love to take a victory lap.
Buffalo fans flat-out hated the trade when it was announced, that should tell people something about Mittelstadt. Of course that has changed now with Byram playing like he does, but still.
 
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Maybe. If the Avs win a Cup this year and Mittelstadt plays a decent part in that, it's a win-win no matter what happens with Byram in Buffalo, tbh. But if the Avs don't win in the next few years and Byram continues to turn into a high-end, top-pairing D... it will be looked at as a doozie in the mold of the Caps trading Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat, just to "go for it."
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Yep. It’s why the Kings don’t get crap for trading the pick that turned into a #1 dman for Dustin Penner who didn’t even put up 20 points in a season as a King. The long term winner doesn’t matter if the move gets you a cup
 
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The Nuge said:
Yep. It’s why the Kings don’t get crap for trading the pick that turned into a #1 dman for Dustin Penner who didn’t even put up 20 points in a season as a King. The long term winner doesn’t matter if the move gets you a cup
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Nah i still dont love the Avs giving up a first for kuemper. I just dont hate it as much.
 
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dirtydanglez said:
it's a shame power doesn't make more use of his size. if he fills out that 6'6" frame he could wreck the atlantic
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The Raymond goal against the Sabres really highlights the frustration Sabres fans have with him....letting guys get multiple opportunities up close when teams would normally have that cleared out even when it is on the PK. Like bro why are you swiping at the puck when you can level the guy trying to whack at it?
 
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Bender said:
Way to confirm you have NOT seen him play this season with Colorado (or at least since mid-November) and are strictly going with what you've seen in the past.

Don't feel bad, as a clear outsider and fan of neither team - you're in the right thread and fit right in with your comments.

Breaking : Habs fan sad that Drouin is playing well with the Avalanche when he didn't in montreal and they gave up Sergachev. News at 11.
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Lol okay. What does DB say ? 60 games for the Habs and what... 400 for the Avs?
 
Panthaz89 said:
The Raymond goal against the Sabres really highlights the frustration Sabres fans have with him....letting guys get multiple opportunities up close when teams would normally have that cleared out even when it is on the PK. Like bro why are you swiping at the puck when you can level the guy trying to whack at it?
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I don't disagree with your general idea about Power but I think that's a bad example. Power has another Red Wing right behind him, and Dahlin is engaging with Raymond, and the puck pops out to Raymond and is off his stick in a split second. That's not a play where you try and plant a guy. It's hard to hit someone as a means of keeping them from shooting, when you don't know that the puck is going there. I think a better question is why Dahlin didn't plant Raymond, Dahlin was actually on Raymond but in a very soft way.
 
Sergei Shirokov said:
Actually pretty impressed with Mittelstadt tonight. He's slick escaping pressure & stronger than I thought.

Might be a really shrew find for the Avs to help extend their window.
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Oh absolutely. Shrews are very slick, very agile and good at escaping pressure by digging, and stronger than you think!!!

Casey 'the Shrew' Mittelstadt
 
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