Coaching is a serious problem.

[Team_Spirit]

Coach Orion was spotted eating with a bald men chez Jardin Nelson (E5)

 

[salbutera]

 

[morhilane]

Should have happened a months ago.

 

[teamfirst]

Hugo are explaining to the players why they had to fire MSL

 

[sampollock]

Should have happened a months ago.

what did the tweet say??

 

[morhilane]

what did the tweet say??

Long team meeting (30+ minutes) after practice...not idea why the tweet is gone (I guess it was a lie ).

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

MSL next year please , huge tank year next year , defining tank year dare I say

 

[Rapala]

The problem that keeps cropping up is Marty's real time game management sucks.
There are no two ways to look at this.

I'd like to know in how many post game interviews has Marty said "I have to look at the video"
What exactly are you looking at during the game?

Regardless of the fact that we are rebuilding I haven't seen our fan base this irate about bench management in a long long time.

 

[sampollock]

The problem that keeps cropping up is Marty's real time game management sucks.
There are no two ways to look at this.

I'd like to know in how many post game interviews has Marty said "I have to look at the video"
What exactly are you looking at during the game?

Regardless of the fact that we are rebuilding I haven't seen our fan base this irate about bench management in a long long time.

DOES NOT know what a time out is

 

[salbutera]

The problem that keeps cropping up is Marty's real time game management sucks.
There are no two ways to look at this.

I'd like to know in how many post game interviews has Marty said "I have to look at the video"
What exactly are you looking at during the game?

Regardless of the fact that we are rebuilding I haven't seen our fan base this irate about bench management in a long long time.

Or …. Why does a coach have to tell anyone anything? No one’s fu*kin business except the org

 

[sampollock]

if the players want to prove they are changing
starts with a good work at all practices.
then game time it will come in
right now it is a joke

 

[Habby4Life]

DOES NOT know what a time out is

He is so far in over his head. It’s a country club in MTL, no accountability unless of course you are Pezz. The staff is a complete joke.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

That doesn’t work in this day and age w young players… in fact may simply have the opposite intended consequences

Michkov got healthy scratched for a game and he seems to be doing fine, and he has the worst attitude of all time according to posters here

 

[teamfirst]

Or …. Why does a coach have to tell anyone anything? No one’s fu*kin business except the org

Relax, w just having some fun on the back of The Philosopher King

 

[Theodore450]

Too many people giving him "advices" and Slaf can't focus on what MSL is telling him. He plays well when he focus on "Marty's voice", it just getting drowned way too much. Slaf has been clear about that the last few weeks.

I remember last year, it was mentioned early in the season that Marty was the only person who could talk to Slaf. It looks like they might need to go back to that. Or Slaf needs to learn to focus on only certain "voices" and ignore the rest.

But there is clearly a factor that is perturbing is concentration and then self-confidence.

If that was true, I see this as a terrible 1st ov pick.

I don’t find this true

 

[HabbyGuy]

I agree that Marty for whatever reason has a hard time with timeouts, not sure what his aversion is to them, but I also don't think a timeout is the magic elixir that you all think it is. It's not going to magically age this roster into a more mature developed unit, I understand it helps in hopes to get a reset, but ultimately I don't think it makes all that much of a difference to our overall situation.

It certainly is something that Marty need to gets a better grasp of though. It can help with the settling of the players in any given moment and be a bit of a kick in the ass. It's a valid gripe against him, just not the fireable offense it's made out to be.

 

[Theodore450]

Or …. Why does a coach have to tell anyone anything? No one’s fu*kin business except the org

Actually everyone paying to watch this team is a stakeholder in this org.

 

[RationalExpectations]

He is so far in over his head. It’s a country club in MTL, no accountability unless of course you are Pezz. The staff is a complete joke.

Culture of excuses : too many games in so few nights, rust because of a few days break, start was good until it was not…

 

[BLONG7]

I agree that Marty for whatever reason has a hard time with timeouts, not sure what his aversion is to them, but I also don't think a timeout is the magic elixir that you all think it is. It's not going to magically age this roster into a more mature developed unit, I understand it helps in hopes to get a reset, but ultimately I don't think it makes all that much of a difference to our overall situation.

It certainly is something that Marty need to gets a better grasp of though. It can help with the settling of the players in any given moment and be a bit of a kick in the ass. It's a valid gripe against him, just not the fireable offense it's made out to be.

Geez, I sure hope no one wants him fired over this issue, but it's a gripe that is bang on, wherby a coach can change the moementum with a time out, or a goalie change, and read the boys a riot act, when the game is 0-2 and only 4 minutes old, and the other team has scored 2 on 3 shots..............

Any of us who watch enough know that a timeout can very well help slow down, or even stop the bleeding..............but all to often instead of a timeout we get another goal or two against in minutes and we are down 4 or 5 goals and the game then, is obviously over.

It's a young inexperienced team, with an inexperienced coach............what could go wrong eh....

 

[HabbyGuy]

Geez, I sure hope no one wants him fired over this issue, but it's a gripe that is bang on, wherby a coach can change the moementum with a time out, or a goalie change, and read the boys a riot act, when the game is 0-2 and only 4 minutes old, and the other team has scored 2 on 3 shots..............

Any of us who watch enough know that a timeout can very well help slow down, or even stop the bleeding..............but all to often instead of a timeout we get another goal or two against in minutes and we are down 4 or 5 goals and the game then, is obviously over.

It's a young inexperienced team, with an inexperienced coach............what could go wrong eh....

Yes there are definitely times when Marty could use a tough love approach, something he's not seemingly wanting to do. I wonder if he feels that when he finally blows up it will have more impact, because of the juxtaposition of his good cop approach. Opposed to being a hard ass all the time where the players would eventually tune him out.

But what I really think it is, is that he's still very much in a developmental mindset where being all anal about mistakes and punishment can prove ultimately detrimental to younger players, he's still trying to give them room to grow, he understands where we are in this process. I'm sure he'd love to put his foot down and not have to be so patient, and demand accountability but he's not going to try and force it, it's a tough line to walk in our current state imo.

 

[salbutera]

Michkov got healthy scratched for a game and he seems to be doing fine, and he has the worst attitude of all time according to posters here

If you’ve watched any of Michkovs game it hasn’t changed, even after being sat out, he’s got zero concept of non cherry picking hockey - but he’s very dangerous on the PP and OT which is where 95% of his pts are from

 

[salbutera]

Actually everyone paying to watch this team is a stakeholder in this org.

Not really - the infinitely small minority that makeup the hardcore fans like to tell themselves that because it makes them feel important…. but we matter the least.

Only corporate customers matter, and almost 0% of them live & die with their teams outcomes

 

[HabzSauce]

Disagree. They wouldn't be contender either for sure, but one thing they would do would be to learn to play hockey correctly. I've said it many times, the biggest issue I have with MSL as coach is not that he has in hand a young team, but he doesn't have the book to teach drills and to make a player with potential into someone great. So no they wouldn't be excellent, but I wouldn't be shaking my head every two minutes with the way they are executing plays.

When I read here :"but they are young, that's why we suck, it's not the coach" I see your point. What you are missing however is that if you want these players to be great a few season from now, you need to teach them now. I don't see it. MSL is not the guy for that. And we need someone now, or we are wasting years of learning for our young players.

We had our chance with Montgomery.

I have a hard time seeing any other opportunities to improve coaching bigger than the one we just passed up on. Looks like management is ready to ride and die with MSL

 

[HabsAddict]

In my old world, you never made decision based on friendship, only results.

We had a chance to upgrade to Montgomery, but Hughes stuck with Smarty.

Lets face it, we want success, but we don't count.

 

[salbutera]

In my old world, you never made decision based on friendship, only results.

We had a chance to upgrade to Montgomery, but Hughes stuck with Smarty.

Lets face it, we want success, but we don't count.

How do you know? He’s lived year round in the US for the better part of last 30yrs, his wife is American and now teenage kids all have grown up there.

I’m not going to pretend to know, but I’m guessing if multiple options presented themselves, he’d prefer US destination