Coaching is a serious problem.

Hannibal

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This team is starting to have bad habits. Management needs to do something if not, we are going down into Buffalo, Ottawa, etc kind of rebuild.

They need a new coaching staff!
 
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TRG

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The good ol' days when we had Character and grit
And No Excuses 😂

I get it, we have an inexperienced defense. But it's not normal that our best players and our veterans all look lost in this system, not knowing what to do. The vets, they've seen many systems, they would know what to do.

Habs are not getting beat because of lack of effort (although the continuous sucking will have negative effects), they're getting beat because they're confused about what is asked of them.
 
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This team is starting to have bad habits. Management needs to do something if not, we are going down into Buffalo, Ottawa, etc kind of rebuild.

They need a new coaching staff!

MSL should have just been a transitional coach to play out the half season. Allow players to reset, and management to reassess who they had with MSL getting first hand knowledge

Thats all he should have been
 

RationalExpectations

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I think the problem with Martin is that he try to teach how he saw the game as a player. But he was a special kind of player, an all star. The average player probably doesn't connect with his way of seeing things.
This is exactly right, same in the offensive zone, Suzuki and CC are producing more with StLouis vs Ducharme because they have much more leeway in the Ozone. However your less creative players need structure. MSL is unable to provide that.
 

RationalExpectations

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Funny how fans will do anything but blame players. Our so called stars are giving awful efforts and it is falling on the back of MSL. Dach doesn't deserve to be a center or a winger right now. His only playable position is eating hot dogs in the stands. He's terrible.
Players should also be held accountable and I don't think fans are saying it s only MSL but this thread is about coaching so what did you expect ?
 

RationalExpectations

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I’m not asking for more wins, because i’m not blind, that roster is atrocious.

But i see bad habits, no structure and no culture. That’s start with coaching staff.

I am going to stop you right here. Roster quality goes to a certain point : in any team of the NHL, Slavin Orlov Ghost Burns Chatfield Walker would be Seen as an average Dcore, yet CAR dominantes, offensively they don't have McDavid but they re applying so much pressure as a team that they get the puck back.
Habs should study thé canes, take a coach willing to implement that system and then we could talk about possible roster improvements.
 

Egresch

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Players should also be held accountable and I don't think fans are saying it s only MSL but this thread is about coaching so what did you expect ?
And we come back to the coach as he is the one who should hold players accountable. If Dach sucks, he should be nowhere near 1st line and PP1. It is the decision of MSL, he is accountable for his bad decisions. Why is Savard still playing, he is atrocious.
 

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Why does MSL sent Dach on the first line to make him get his gear turned on, Suzuki and Caufield have been invisible offensively since paired with him. Is the plan to destroy the only line we had working well because the 3 others line were doing nothing?

Why punish those 3. Dach has alot of icetime , PP time and he can't make any of it. Even Anderson who sucks offensively atleast is trying to play defensively to make him useful.

Same thing about Guhle. Hes a LHD but he's gotta play on the right because Matheson can't?

Guhle should be on the left since he's part of the future.

Like those coaching decisions are so bad. Like what's the plan with that?
 

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Like those coaching decisions are so bad. Like what's the plan with that?
He only has so many variations and combinations he can try. We don't have a good roster + heads are down and the vibes are not on our side.

My criticism of MSL has not stopped: it's his job to keep the vibes* up and adjust the tactical plans to maximize possibility of success. There is not much of that "Winning Culture" we were promised.

*Vibes = upbeat professional serious hockey. Not the country club stuff, I couldn't care less about that right now.
 
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