Coaching is a serious problem.

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

Instead of asking the players to bring their game into his game, he should do the opposite. It could not be worse.

A good coach adapts

If Marty needs the perfect players to fit his ‘“concepts,” then he is the wrong guy completely

 

[Tyson]

A good coach adapts

If Marty needs the perfect players to fit his ‘“concepts,” then he is the wrong guy completely

 

[Garbageyuk]

Marty has the team playing the modern game for the first time ever. It's just not a very good team.

This. We have one good line, and exactly one defenseman who is decent at actual defense. Add a journeyman starting goaltender, and this is the result. I highly doubt any coach in the league could get much more out of this roster.

 

[Habby4Life]

This. We have one good line, and exactly one defenseman who is decent at actual defense. Add a journeyman starting goaltender, and this is the result. I highly doubt any coach in the league could get much more out of this roster.

It’s about how they are losing!

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

MSL has MTL playing the modern game. That just stinks of arrogance that a guy who has never coached at any level above handing out orange slices, has somehow created a new way that is the recipe to success that no other coach has come up with in 100 yrs of coaching. He isnt modernizing anything

MSL from all accounts has been a great communicator and we will assume its true as cant dispute that. He seems genuinely good with players but something is clearly lacking on getting getting the messages in schemes

 

[The Real Timo]

MSL has MTL playing the modern game. That just stinks of arrogance that a guy who has never coached at any level above handing out orange slices, has somehow created a new way that is the recipe to success that no other coach has come up with in 100 yrs of coaching. He isnt modernizing anything

MSL from all accounts has been a great communicator and we will assume its true as cant dispute that. He seems genuinely good with players but something is clearly lacking on getting getting the messages in schemes

It could also be that his "concepts" simply don't work at the NHL level and there is nobody to steer him in the right direction. That's mngt failure really. So Hughes has to carry as much blame as MSL for this.

 

[Habby4Life]

MSL has MTL playing the modern game. That just stinks of arrogance that a guy who has never coached at any level above handing out orange slices, has somehow created a new way that is the recipe to success that no other coach has come up with in 100 yrs of coaching. He isnt modernizing anything

MSL from all accounts has been a great communicator and we will assume its true as cant dispute that. He seems genuinely good with players but something is clearly lacking on getting getting the messages in schemes

Modern game, lol.

What’s that, get outshot 2 to 1, spend minutes chasing guys around in your end while they play keep away, and losing every night. If this is modern game, shit I’ll take MT back (just threw up a little).

Coach Bombay is full of quotes and nothing more. He was a PR hire, no other way you hire a Pee Wee coach, they got the media to buy the BS but the shine is starting to wear off.

 

[Tyson]

Modern game, lol.

What’s that, get outshot 2 to 1, spend minutes chasing guys around in your end while they play keep away, and losing every night. If this is modern game, shit I’ll take MT back (just threw up a little).

Coach Bombay is full of quotes and nothing more. He was a PR hire, no other way you hire a Pee Wee coach, they got the media to buy the BS but the shine is starting to wear off.

It could also be that his "concepts" simply don't work at the NHL level and there is nobody to steer him in the right direction. That's mngt failure really. So Hughes has to carry as much blame as MSL for this.

Yep these so called concepts are not working

 

[Paddyjack]

It’s about how they are losing!

This. If they were on a losing streak of 5-6 games but battling every nights, playing their hardest, nobody would say anything nor suggest MSL is a problem.

But they look disinterested, they run around in their zone, opposing team stay there circling half the game, and they get outshot 2 to 1 every night.

Heck, I was watching Laval the other night, and the contrast was huge. In fact, I would not be surprised if Laval would beat them.

 

[Sorinth]

This. We have one good line, and exactly one defenseman who is decent at actual defense. Add a journeyman starting goaltender, and this is the result. I highly doubt any coach in the league could get much more out of this roster.

I'm sure we could squeeze out more wins if we had everyone collapse in front of the net to block shots, just making safe dump and chase style of game where throwing it off the glass is the most common type of zone exit. It's just doing that means sacrificing your offence and then trying to win by having better special teams.

But that's not a style of play that will lead a team to being a contender, it's a style you play when you are trying to just make the playoffs and hoping that anything can happen. Personally that's not what I want to see from the team even if it would lead to more points in the standings in the short term.

 

[Habby4Life]

I'm sure we could squeeze out more wins if we had everyone collapse in front of the net to block shots, just making safe dump and chase style of game where throwing it off the glass is the most common type of zone exit. It's just doing that means sacrificing your offence and then trying to win by having better special teams.

But that's not a style of play that will lead a team to being a contender, it's a style you play when you are trying to just make the playoffs and hoping that anything can happen. Personally that's not what I want to see from the team even if it would lead to more points in the standings in the short term.

Are you seriously saying the style they are playing is the path to being a contender

How is getting hemmed in their zone for extended periods of time, being cycled to death, outshot 2 to 1, getting physically beat up the path to being a contending team, absolute nonsense.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

THE SKY IS FALLING,

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

QUICK, FIRE THE COACH!!!!!!!!

Imo coaching the kids MSL does a pretty good job. Coaching the team X’s and O’s Etc he isn’t NHL calibre. The structure is a mess.

 

[Garbageyuk]

I'm sure we could squeeze out more wins if we had everyone collapse in front of the net to block shots, just making safe dump and chase style of game where throwing it off the glass is the most common type of zone exit. It's just doing that means sacrificing your offence and then trying to win by having better special teams.

But that's not a style of play that will lead a team to being a contender, it's a style you play when you are trying to just make the playoffs and hoping that anything can happen. Personally that's not what I want to see from the team even if it would lead to more points in the standings in the short term.

I agree somewhat, I guess. That style is also not good for the development of young players, and makes them play timid and tentative, scared to make mistakes. I’d much rather have this, even if it gets ugly and there are growing pains. I think that’s the rationale of management as well, so I believe MSL will be around for the foreseeable future, even if things get bad in terms of results/points/wins. We did the bubble team thing for 30 years, people need to have some patience.