Confirmed with Link: Coach Pete DeBoer Is Fired

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NJDevs26

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For a coach not to be lame duck it is but the scuttlebutt last year was Pete's contract was up but we picked up the option on it. Options aren't normally two years long so either the rumors were incorrect or he got extended an additional year on top of the option.
 

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Pete wasn't working for the team and I've criticized him in the past, but I sincerely do wish him a happy life and future. If he gets another NHL job, I hope he is successful except when he competes against the Devils. He seemed to be a pretty good guy and he still is young enough to learn how to be a better NHL coach. It just wasn't happening fast enough here.
 

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For a coach not to be lame duck it is but the scuttlebutt last year was Pete's contract was up but we picked up the option on it. Options aren't normally two years long so either the rumors were incorrect or he got extended an additional year on top of the option.

Wasn't that just a rumor and no one actually knew what his contract was and when it ended?

Also really? Katie Strang is now who we are turning to?

I honestly don't think many care about the date Pete was fired and if a few do they will forget quickly.

Lou is much more respected in hockey then Pete will ever be.
 

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^ Katie Strang is a detriment to women who actually know sports. She would not have a job if she was not a female. Her reporting is putrid. She often has no clue what she is talking about and it is quite obvious she puts very little effort into her work. She is an insult to all women in sports media. At this point, just seeing her name annoys me (as you can see). :laugh:

On a more topic related and brighter note, I really don't see Deboer getting another HC offer at the NHL level. He needed two top 10 NHL forwards to produce mediocre regular season results. If the Devils play like they did last night even 15 more games this season, it will be pretty obvious Pete was doing more harm than good for this team. I've said it before and I'll say it again, simply put his system is perimeter garbage hockey. That does not and will not produce consistent winning at the NHL level.
 

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^ Katie Strang is a detriment to women who actually know sports. She would not have a job if she was not a female. Her reporting is putrid. She often has no clue what she is talking about and it is quite obvious she puts very little effort into her work. She is an insult to all women in sports media. At this point, just seeing her name annoys me (as you can see). :laugh:

On a more topic related and brighter note, I really don't see Deboer getting another HC offer at the NHL level. He needed two top 10 NHL forwards to produce mediocre regular season results. If the Devils play like they did last night even 15 more games this season, it will be pretty obvious Pete was doing more harm than good for this team. I've said it before and I'll say it again, simply put his system is perimeter garbage hockey. That does not and will not produce consistent winning at the NHL level.

I'd have to agree with the second paragraph.

Pete DeBoer and Todd McLellan are the most overrated head coaches in the NHL. Tmac wouldn't probably even be an NHL head coach anymore if he had coached Florida and New Jersey like Pete did, instead of San Jose. They've both been in the league as head coaches since the same year.

Unless Toronto has a ***** for him still, I don't see too many teams being interested in him as head coach. Maybe Philadelphia possibly, since that's one of the few teams we've killed during his coaching tenure.

I think there's a good chance he's an NHL head coach again, just not before serving some time as an assistant first. Kind of like what Muller, Sacco, Dineen, and other head coaching flops are currently doing.
 

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I think DeBoer has a mystique about him in the league. Wouldnt be shocked if he's coaching Philly, Toronto or Ottawa next season.

he has a "gets alot of a roster" and "need horses" and you see the media doing him a solid in stating the Devils ran out of horses.
 

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I think DeBoer has a mystique about him in the league. Wouldnt be shocked if he's coaching Philly, Toronto or Ottawa next season.

he has a "gets alot of a roster" and "need horses" and you see the media doing him a solid in stating the Devils ran out of horses.

Agree about the mystique. He just seems like a well respected guy around the league.
 

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There's a reason he's regarded as highly as he is around the league as a coach. Most have nothing but praise for him. There's a reason Lou tried to hold onto him as long as he could.

What happens here the rest of the way will have no bearing on how he's viewed around the league. A roster responding to new voices, a fresh look, and the slate being wiped clean doesn't mean the previous coach was a bad coach. Coaches have shelf lives. Sometimes situations grow sour, sometimes the fit becomes a bad one, sometimes they get tuned out if it's just getting stale.

Let's keep in mind that there are 3 new voices behind the players on the bench and in practice now too. Pete's not the only change.

That there's a feeling among league execs that a great coach has just become available and won't be without a job for long should tell you all you need to know about how much weight what went/goes on here carries.

A fresh start can be as beneficial to the coach as the players sometimes too.
 

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Look at a guy like Guy Boucher. Proclaimed genius by Lemaire, he's in Switzerland after leading the Bolts to the deepest they had been in the playoffs in a long stretch.

Maybe his 1-3-1 rubs GM the wrong way when they like a tug a certain way. :dunno:
 

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There's a reason he's regarded as highly as he is around the league as a coach. Most have nothing but praise for him. There's a reason Lou tried to hold onto him as long as he could.

What happens here the rest of the way will have no bearing on how he's viewed around the league. A roster responding to new voices, a fresh look, and the slate being wiped clean doesn't mean the previous coach was a bad coach. Coaches have shelf lives. Sometimes situations grow sour, sometimes the fit becomes a bad one, sometimes they get tuned out if it's just getting stale.

Let's keep in mind that there are 3 new voices behind the players on the bench and in practice now too. Pete's not the only change.

That there's a feeling among league execs that a great coach has just become available and won't be without a job for long should tell you all you need to know about how much weight what went/goes on here carries.

A fresh start can be as beneficial to the coach as the players sometimes too.

I get not wanting retreads or hacks, but DeBoer (right or wrong) is judge on his playoffs record. There are guys with thicker resumes waiting or not offered jobs. Hartley went overseas and others as well and others are toiling as assistants.
 

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Deboer was not a bad coach if he had the right players for his system. The problem is those players left. His system simply doesn't work for the players we have now and he was not flexible enough to adapt a new system. Deboer's system would work really well with the St. Louise Blue's lineup.

Remember what Lemaire said? You have to play a system that fits your players. If the players can't play that way, they will be frustrated and injured, which is exactly what happened.

Hopefully Lou's new system will fit what we have and go from there.
 

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I think DeBoer has a mystique about him in the league. Wouldnt be shocked if he's coaching Philly, Toronto or Ottawa next season.

he has a "gets alot of a roster" and "need horses" and you see the media doing him a solid in stating the Devils ran out of horses.

Mystique is a good word lol (I'd prefer hype), but if the Devils somehow start rolling in the second half then even the media has to admit Pete's value takes a hit. If we continue to sputter though, I'm sure Pete'll get a job next year given all the hype he gets.

Part of me wants to see him coach San Jose partly to drive Bleed batty and partly cause I'm tired of hearing the Pete just needs the horses argument and he had bad ownership and no money and no players yadda yadda yadda. If he's that great let him get the Sharks over the hump. Especially in the actual tougher conference.
 
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Mystique is a good word lol (I'd prefer hype), but if the Devils somehow start rolling in the second half then even the media has to admit Pete's value takes a hit. If we continue to sputter though, I'm sure Pete'll get a job next year given all the hype he gets.

Part of me wants to see him coach San Jose partly to drive Bleed nuts and partly cause I'm tired of hearing the Pete just needs the horses argument and he had bad ownership and no money and no players yadda yadda yadda. If he's that great let him get the Sharks over the hump.

I have this feeling he ends up in Toronto and man I can imagine the mess that could turn into.
 

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Him in Toronto would be the height of irony considering they're the team that defies Corsi on the positive side and we're the team that used to defy it on the negative side. It'd be hilarious if they got the same results looking dramatically different. And yeah him getting thin-skinned with the media there would be interesting considering how 'well' he handled TG and Randy Miller tweaking him late last year.
 

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Yeah it sucks he got fired the day after Christmas, but Lou was more than patient with him. There were so many "game that could get a coach fired" over the last two years. The horrible start to last season, the stadium series disaster against or biggest rival, the Florida game late last year. Then about 5-6 to start this year, including the last game he coached.

Yeah there's probably some teams he could get into the playoffs. Maybe San Jose, but I don't see him ending up there any time soon.
 

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This guy is the Teflon Don of coaches. Not much of track record to show at all, how and what the hell did he do to earn respect in this league?

It must be the ties.
 

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Pete is over my house right now. We're doing tequila shots, watching his favorite movie Porky's and discussing why Larsson sucks.
 

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This guy is the Teflon Don of coaches. Not much of track record to show at all, how and what the hell did he do to earn respect in this league?

It must be the ties.

He helped keep a pretty average/below average team competitive for a year and a half. We really shouldn't have been in the race as long as we were in '12-'13 and '13-'14. This year it all just went to hell.
 

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Sorry nothing to write home about. Average team + average results = average coach. Can't believe people still defend this guy.
 

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Sorry nothing to write home about. Average team + average results = average coach. Can't believe people still defend this guy.

That's not how it works... it's team + coach = results.

Edit: Lol for some reason I read it as you were defending the guy. Forget about my equation
 

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I think the phrase "he needs his horses for his system to work" is a pretty big joke to be honest. A good coach gets the best out of his players no matter what. I also think the best coach is the one that not only has a good system in place, but one that can motivate his players. I have absolutely no inside information, and this is completely my opinion, but he did not seem to be a motivating factor for us at all.
 
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