Confirmed with Link: Coach Pete DeBoer Is Fired
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Tundra
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Firing PDB was unpredictable?
I do agree that the timing was not great, but really? It was obviously going to happen.
Firing him when he did it.
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I'll agree with you on that one. I can honestly say I would not have been surprised if Deboer was coaching this team for game 82.
Next year, that's a different story.
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So if he dismissed Pete 8-10 days before he did it would have been better? The optics aren't great but it's mostly irrelevant.
Given the fact so many players AND coaches come back it's not as if Lou's personality is a total turnoff
Given the fact so many players AND coaches come back it's not as if Lou's personality is a total turnoff
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Traitor Zach
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It's more the lack of stability and itchy trigger finger. 14 HC tenures (including Lou) in 13 years.
If Lou was held to the kind of accountability by an owner who had the same kind of mentality as Lou in how he holds his coaches, he'd have been fired as well.
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It's about perception. It looks bad from the outside. Rumors start over stuff like this.
Tundra
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You wonder if DeBoer may have had words with LL and LL decided to give him the heave ho. The timing is all very suspect.
Rumors among who? Anyone who's an NHL caliber coach knows Lou better than the rumor mill we'll see. Please.
So if you think PDB had words with Lou, that's nothing on Lou firing him on the spot, right? I mean... this is just a negative rumor conversation for the sake of it. Crazy.
Traitor Zach
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Technically he's not working with the team. He works on the MSG broadcast with approval of the team.
But he has no association with the hockey ops.
Traitor Zach
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I personally don't think so (just my opinion). I think Lou actually did him a favor by firing him before this brutal stretch of tough games. It would have gotten even uglier.
I think Lou realizes any coach who comes here until things get cleaned out (perhaps including Lou getting moved out of the GM chair), is being set up for failure in the short-term.
No coach can build up and blueprint anything with this roster right now. Deboer had his shot and it was a short window.
The handwriting was on the wall. It was just a matter of when.
Lou has been GM for how long? Of course he's fired a dozen or so coaches over the course of 24 plus years. Sather said it best, Coaches all have a shelf life.
Also, there are 30 nhl coaching jobs, 30. I doubt this affects the Devils from being able to get a coach. Hitchcock was petitioning for the job a few years back. Between retreads and upstarts, there are only 30 of these dream jobs. I think the fact that Lou liked Pete bought him more time. If anything, the timing of it is to Pete's advantage if Toronto opens up or even Detroit.
Boucher, someone the board fawns over is in the Swiss league. I mean, let's be realistic here, nothing of what Lou, Snider, Dolan/Sather and co do in terms of revolving door affects future hires.
Also, there are 30 nhl coaching jobs, 30. I doubt this affects the Devils from being able to get a coach. Hitchcock was petitioning for the job a few years back. Between retreads and upstarts, there are only 30 of these dream jobs. I think the fact that Lou liked Pete bought him more time. If anything, the timing of it is to Pete's advantage if Toronto opens up or even Detroit.
Boucher, someone the board fawns over is in the Swiss league. I mean, let's be realistic here, nothing of what Lou, Snider, Dolan/Sather and co do in terms of revolving door affects future hires.
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The Lamoriello - Oates - Stevens triumvirate seems almost like a giant FU to everyone who wanted Deboer fired. "Sure, I'll fire Deboer. Let's see how you like this cluster."
Maybe this will work. Regardless, it's a "be careful what you wish for" situation. Almost like that "literal genie" commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Colw-GucKw0
Maybe this will work. Regardless, it's a "be careful what you wish for" situation. Almost like that "literal genie" commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Colw-GucKw0
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Love the brunette in this commercial.
He should have been fired the day after Thanksgiving IMO. That was the night of that embarrassing loss to Detroit, where we were leading 4-1 and lost in a shootout. On top of not being able to score on almost a full 2 minute 5 on 3.
That came less than a week after the Calgary chokejob, and a little over a week after the "good road period" post game presser in that HORRENDOUS effort in Winnipeg.
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I've been thinking, what if Lou's taken it upon himself to be the fallguy? To take responsibility for tanking the season, and stepping down after the year with all the blame. At the same time putting the franchise before himself and get us McDavid or Eichel, giving the devils a fresh start. What do you think?
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I think he really believes in never letting the franchise fall to depths - I don't think this was at all planned - but when it was clear that PDB was going to get the boot, I think the obvious thing for him to take the reigns and responsibility - so yeah, it is going to get very interesting when/if he starts dealing, or if we starting winning.
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Are people on here actually fretting about what date we fired him on and how that impacts our ability to secure another coach?
People can't help themselves.
People can't help themselves.
billingtons ghost
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I agree with this.
I think once Lou decides he has to fire a guy, there is no sense waiting.
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I can't believe anyone takes Katie Strang seriously. She's about as important to this whole thing as Deb Placey. In fact, they may be the same person.
Lou has fired coaches who were winning and it didn't seem to affect our ability to hire coaches. I don't think being fired at Christmas is going to affect it either. Lou is still one of the most respected GMs in the league and people will want to work for him.
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I seriously doubt it. We're not THAT important that Lou would do something to spite us.
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LeBrun interview with Pete:
http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?stor...top&rand=ref~{"ref":"http://t.co/EC41ChTx5F"}
If there was a palace coup (re: Stevens) he took the high road. The most noteworthy thing for me was the fact Pete was signed through NEXT year lol
http://m.espn.go.com/nhl/story?stor...top&rand=ref~{"ref":"http://t.co/EC41ChTx5F"}
If there was a palace coup (re: Stevens) he took the high road. The most noteworthy thing for me was the fact Pete was signed through NEXT year lol
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Nope, still embarassed
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