Proposal: (CLB/MTL) Kent Johnson for Matheson + 2nd 2025 (worse pick PIT/MTL)

[stevo61]

Seriously. What Vincent was doing to those talented kids was a crime. KJ and others not put in any sort of position to succeed whatsoever. So relieved CBJ will be getting a new coach this season.

Yeah, wasnt exactly shocked when a new GM with no attachment made a change quick. Jarmo was the type to not admit mistakes and hold on to things too long

 

[MoeBartoli]

who says no?

provided Matheson re-signs (2 years left)

Here, I fixed your proposal to make it more attractive for the Blue Jackets.

(CLB/MTL) Kent Jack Johnson for Matheson + 2nd 2025 (worse pick PIT/MTL)​

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Awful ; Johnson still has huge upside

 

[squashmaple]

My favorite thing about this thread is how OP, after getting immediate pushback, pivoted to assuming that Columbus wants to move KJ for peanuts and this is the best offer they could get.

 

[BLNY]

Is it Kent Johnson day or something?

No way Columbus does this. Just like the Tampa offer.

I don't think Montreal makes the offer either. They've said they're happy at centre for now. They still believe in Dach.

 

[Foppberg]

Who’s Matheson?

 

[Wayfarer13]

His -24 stands out like a sore thumb though...

But needs to be looked at under the context of nuance.The Habs were in anaweful lot of close games last year.Curious to know how goals where he was on ice were on the last minute trying to generate offense to tie a game? He would not have been asked to bank the puck off the glass.

 

[Viqsi]

But needs to be looked at under the context of nuance.The Habs were in anaweful lot of close games last year.Curious to know how goals where he was on ice were on the last minute trying to generate offense to tie a game? He would not have been asked to bank the puck off the glass.

You do realize, I hope, that this is basically telling us that if we're ever in a close game (and the Jackets were also in a ton of them last season) that Matheson cannot be relied upon because Montreal kept deploying him and they kept losing anyways, right? As though he's, say, not actually effective at preventing goals against, correct? Because that would be basically the exact opposite of what we need. As was said upfront.

 

[Canadienna]

I find Matheson's trade value fascinating.

Matheson's warts can be ugly. He was also top10 in Dman scoring, 3rd in TOI, and is signed for 4.875m for two years.

Essentially how much do you discount his offensive game because of his defensive deficiencies.

If he's not a good fit for CBJ then this trade isn't a thing, but I also think people should probably familiarize themselves with the player a bit more considering he is one of the top offensive Dmen in the league.

 

[Wondercarrot]

I disagree, hed be a relatively cheap signing as an RFA, and would fit on the 2 line wing with Dach and Newhook. Whats not to like?

Dach and Newhook?

 

[DaPhazz]

Kent Johnston still has good value too, higher than Kirby Dache whose just made out of glass.

I tought OP was bad, the thread that keeps on giving

 

[Superlative Soup]

I find Matheson's trade value fascinating.

Matheson's warts can be ugly. He was also top10 in Dman scoring, 3rd in TOI, and is signed for 4.875m for two years.

Essentially how much do you discount his offensive game because of his defensive deficiencies.

If he's not a good fit for CBJ then this trade isn't a thing, but I also think people should probably familiarize themselves with the player a bit more considering he is one of the top offensive Dmen in the league.

He has 1 year with more than 40 points. Collecting a bunch of PP assists doesn’t make you “one of the top offensive Dmen in the league.’

 

[amnesiac]

Dach and Newhook?

Kirby and Alex?

 

[CBJx614]

I find Matheson's trade value fascinating.

Matheson's warts can be ugly. He was also top10 in Dman scoring, 3rd in TOI, and is signed for 4.875m for two years.

Essentially how much do you discount his offensive game because of his defensive deficiencies.

If he's not a good fit for CBJ then this trade isn't a thing, but I also think people should probably familiarize themselves with the player a bit more considering he is one of the top offensive Dmen in the league.

Our entire Dcorp is made up of mobile Dmen with a PP specialist itching for NHL time. 30 yrs old Matheson holds 0 value to us, we don't need to familiarize ourselves with him because it wasn't a CBJ fan who made this thread. It was a Canadiens fan who didn't familiarize himself with the team he was trying to make a proposal with outside of looking at stats.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Matheson does not have remotely close to that kind of value lmao

 

[Zarzh]

I find Matheson's trade value fascinating.

Matheson's warts can be ugly. He was also top10 in Dman scoring, 3rd in TOI, and is signed for 4.875m for two years.

Essentially how much do you discount his offensive game because of his defensive deficiencies.

If he's not a good fit for CBJ then this trade isn't a thing, but I also think people should probably familiarize themselves with the player a bit more considering he is one of the top offensive Dmen in the league.

A lot because what matters is how and when you create offense, maybe a team really likes him and gives up a late 1st.

 

[Treb]

We got our answer.

 

[MardyBum]

87th in the NHL in 5v5 P/60 with a minimum of 850 minutes played.

He plays a lot of minutes, scores PP points, gets ouscored at 5v5. Can we trade Pionk for KJ