Value of: Claude Giroux to Calgary

[Iggys Dome]

Assuming Philly is out and willing to move him within the next few months (from now to the TDL) what would the ask be?

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[BlueSeal]

I’d say a late 1st.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Assuming Philly is out and willing to move him within the next few months (from now to the TDL) what would the ask be?

Probably Pelletier along with a late 1st.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I’d say a late 1st.

Easily fetches more than that. Almost any truly good pending UFA fetches a late 1st + B prospect. He's got to be near that 1st and Borderline A prospect level. If Philly puts retention on the table and with a pending UFA, why not the price will be very high, even as rentals go.

 

[Djp]

Calgary doesn’t have cap space. Him at 50% likely also sees a roster player coming back. Depending on who that player is matters.

 

[BritainStix]

There's going to be at least 10 teams looking at him at 50%.

A first and a good prospect will be the minimum requirement.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Probably Pelletier along with a late 1st.

The top rookie in the AHL (2nd best player) and a 1st for a rental? Pelletier might come up and be almost as effective by himself (might)

 

[Killer Orcas]

A late first anything 20 plus and the sooner the deal the more the secondary asset along with the first. I'm assuming he has a NTC that he'd have to wave as well.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Would do the 2022 1st and a prospect like Stromgren, Ruzicka, or Phillips. Maybe even add a conditional 2nd or something like that.

But the likes of Zary, Coronato, and Pelletier would almost certainly be off the table for a 33 year old UFA.

 

[captainpaxil]

Coronato 1st and zadorov

 

[ole ole]

Assuming Philly is out and willing to move him within the next few months (from now to the TDL) what would the ask be?

Late 1st +2nd and a prospect at most for a rental and that's only if the team is a true contender.

 

[Sparky93]

I'd say a 1st + a mid round pick/prospect. Considering most teams interested will need heavy retention, it could go a bit higher.

 

[Flyer lurker]

G at 50%

Savard last year was 1 3 and 4 to divert money.

The bidding starts at a 1 and 2 (and 3 or 4 to divert 15-25%) and goes from there.

Assume Flyers want ZERO CONTRACTS BACK who are paid past 2022 and making say 3m plus.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I’d say a 1st and good prospect for Giroux 25% retained . A 2nd for retention at 50% for a 3rd club so that a contender can get that cap hit down to 25%. Team getting the 2nd maybe tosses the acquiring team a 4th rounder.

team a) Giroux 25% cap + 4th rounder

Philly) 1st + good prospect (3/4th depth chart level prospect)

team c) 2nd rounder for eating 50%

As an Oiler fan it would look like

1st + 2nd + Lavoie for Giroux (3/4 cap retained) + 4th

 

[Seattlebjprice]

I’d suggest similar to Paul Stastny’s value when sent to Winnipeg:

similar ages, roles, points, point trends, and contract status.

STL received a 1st, a decent prospect with NCAA development, and a conditional 4th on whether they resigned him. (The 1st turned into Rasmus Sandin after STL traded up 4 spots with Toronto to take Blues legend Dominick Bokk who was flipped for Justin Faulk. The prospect retired due to reported concussion issues)

 

[TGWL]

Probably Pelletier along with a late 1st.

Doubtful

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Probably Pelletier along with a late 1st.

Short of Pelletier cooling off a lot between now and the TDL, I don't think he's getting moved. We're gonna need impact ELC's next year after a hopeful new Tkachuk and Gaudreau deals/

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Short of Pelletier cooling off a lot between now and the TDL, I don't think he's getting moved. We're gonna need impact ELC's next year after a hopeful new Tkachuk and Gaudreau deals/

I wouldn’t want to move Pelletier either as he done really well thus far in the pros, a fine prospect such as Pelletier and a late 1st is a high price to give up for a soon to be 34 year old UFA that leads his team in scoring that can play LW or C and take faceoffs with the best in the league and also great on left wall at power play.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Doubtful

I doubt that would happen too, Calgary shouldn’t be giving up their top prospects and 1st round picks to go all in and make a run on the cup.

Calgary does have some stockpiled depth although inexperienced but maybe Trevling could make other minor moves with lesser prospects if a veteran needs to sure up the middle 6.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I wouldn’t want to move Pelletier either as he done really well thus far in the pros, a fine prospect such as Pelletier and a late 1st is a high price to give up for a soon to be 34 year old UFA that leads his team in scoring that can play LW or C and take faceoffs with the best in the league and also great on left wall at power play.

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to have Giroux. Just not sure he pushes us into true contender category.

 

[1865]

Any contender that gets Giroux jumps up the list.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Monahan @ ~6.4M
2021 1st
2021 4th



Giroux @ ~6.4M (23% retained)

I think that is pretty fair? Gives Flames a huge upgrade over Monahan and gives Flyers futures + another asset they could possibly flip for more futures?

This is a much more potent looking top 9 for Calgary:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Backlund - Giroux
Lucic - Dube - Coleman

For a team that needs some more scoring after it's top line + Mangiapane, they should be willing to move a lot in terms of futures for an upgrade to their scoring depth:

- Those 4 forwards have totaled 33 ES goals and 69 ES points vs 24 ES goals and 49 ES ppoints for the rest of Calgary's forwards
- The top line is a combined +48, while the rest of the team's forwards are a combined -2.
- Milan Lucic is 5th among Flames forwards with 9 ES points.

That's not a recipe for sustained success. I would think a guy like Mangiapane would have legitimate chemistry with Giroux.

 

[YP44]

Monahan @ ~6.4M
2021 1st
2021 4th



Giroux @ ~6.4M (23% retained)

I think that is pretty fair? Gives Flames a huge upgrade over Monahan and gives Flyers futures + another asset they could possibly flip for more futures?

This is a much more potent looking top 9 for Calgary:

Gaudreau - Lindholm - Tkachuk
Mangiapane - Backlund - Giroux
Lucic - Dube - Coleman

For a team that needs some more scoring after it's top line + Mangiapane, they should be willing to move a lot in terms of futures for an upgrade to their scoring depth:

- Those 4 forwards have totaled 33 ES goals and 69 ES points vs 24 ES goals and 49 ES ppoints for the rest of Calgary's forwards
- The top line is a combined +48, while the rest of the team's forwards are a combined -2.
- Milan Lucic is 5th among Flames forwards with 9 ES points.

That's not a recipe for sustained success. I would think a guy like Mangiapane would have legitimate chemistry with Giroux.

If they flyers can then flip Monahan this makes some sense.

 

[Ainsy01]

I doubt Giroux shakes loose unless the Flyers decide to really blow it up, they were predicted by many to be a good team this year, and Giroux has a NMC, and its not like hes at the tail end of his career ready to go anywhere to win a cup just yet, but hey maybe

 

[Laveuglette]

If he is available, and that's a bigger if than most think imo, it will be expensive. Any good team adding Giroux will be a very serious contender. He's still an elite player in this league, and has many years left in the tank.