Claude Fired II, All Clode Discussion here

[Colt.45Orr]

Here is another explanation for the timing:

The Jacobs had been protecting Julien from this for a long time now.

After the Patriots once again brought a championship to Boston and showed the world how much difference there is between the two franchises (and coaches.... back in 2013, BB anc CJ were being compared by some) yes, after ANOTHER championship while the Bruins steadily move towards a THIRD season in row not making the playoffs, well....

the reigns came off from above and they were give the green light, at some point on Monday, from Jacobs to go ahead and chop Julien.

Personally, I look forward to the post-Julien era.

 

[Number8]

Pierre McGuire at 5 PM on CKGM radio in Montreal

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/mcguire-galchenyuk-can-improve-defensively-1.666594

He gives Sweeney high marks as a GM and says in another couple of years Boston will be fine.

I think that may be true IF Jacobs, Neely, and Sinden stay the hell out of it.

If not, we're back to the 1972-2011 drought.

 

[The Special K]

Honestly, I could not care less about how this was done...I am just glad that they did something. I cannot think of a nice way to be fired...
I have thought that CJ'S time had passed for a couple of years...not because he is a bad coach, but rather that the has changed and he was seemingly not changing in accordance. This league is built on speed and skill. As good as CJ'S system is/was, it was becoming obvious that it could not overcome the challenges posed by speedy, skilled teams.

I know that the roster did not help, but most teams now build through development and the FA market. While the conspiracy that CJ hated youth is just bullcrap, he certainly did/does not like young players who were solid offensively but suspect defensively. Those players were put on a VERY short leash.

Suffice it to say...it is time for a change.

 

[GloveSave1]

I don't know, all this focus on timing seems to be getting off track, to me. I really couldn't care less...I'm conscious and capable of paying attention to two things at once...

I get it. It was a "sly move." Way to call them out. Now...let's get back to business.

 

[Number8]

I don't know, all this focus on timing seems to be getting off track, to me. I really couldn't care less...I'm conscious and capable of paying attention to two things at once...

I get it. It was a "move." Way to call them out. Now...let's get back to business.

If this organization (mainly Jacobs and his boy Harry) had a track record of class and professionalism --- I.e. This was an isolated incident in difficult times -- I'd tend to agree.

However that is not the case. This organization oozes lack of professionalism and class.

This, regardless of whether Claude going was right decision or not, is just same old same old.

 

[patty59]

I don't know, all this focus on timing seems to be getting off track, to me. I really couldn't care less...I'm conscious and capable of paying attention to two things at once...

I get it. It was a "sly move." Way to call them out. Now...let's get back to business.

No way, we have to dwell on this for at least another week, probably more if the teams continues to drop games.

 

[MacDow]

The Bruins have a long history, of announcing firings on days where the story will be buried below other stories.A good example of this is firing Chia the same day the Aaron Hernandez verdit came down

Their actions are nefarious. Jacobs should sell the team to someone who cares. Then they should burn it down and start over

 

[BruinDust]

Pierre McGuire at 5 PM on CKGM radio in Montreal

http://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/mcguire-galchenyuk-can-improve-defensively-1.666594

He gives Sweeney high marks as a GM and says in another couple of years Boston will be fine.

McGuire isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.

He rarely criticizes anyone involved in the sport at a management level.

Most can see Boston's prospect pool is one of the better ones on paper. That's all it is, on paper.

I have a hard time giving a GM who hasn't even made a minor deal with a fellow GM in almost 12 calendar months high marks.

 

[HumBucker]

Pierre McGuire stated recently he knows for a fact that Julien would have been fired in 2011 if they had lost to Tampa in the ECF.

More phenomenal insight from Pierre. Coach would have been fired if he'd lost, but he won instead, and so wasn't fired. How does one access this knowledge and wisdom?

 

[Blowfish]

Thank you for helping the bruins win the cup. Could never fully understand some of your line up decisions. Best of luck.

 

[missingchicklet]

I think that may be true IF Jacobs, Neely, and Sinden stay the hell out of it.

And what are the odds of that happening?

 

[northeastern]

Thank you for helping the bruins win the cup. Could never fully understand some of your line up decisions. Best of luck.

Haha agreed... Some were absolute head scratchers

 

[22Brad Park]

When Kevin Miller is turning over pucks and its in Bruins net seconds later then somewhere Claude will be smiling to himself as Cassidy gets tore apart by media and fans alike.Like I said.Put lips stick on the pig but its still a pig.

 

[sarge88]

In any organization. Succesful organization. How things are done are as important as what is done.

Fact.

I generally hate cliches, but you're exactly right.....the "optics" of this stink.

It looks like a gutless, contrived move to do it today...at the same time as the parade.

And any attempt to justify it can only come across like a six year old trying to explain why he took cookies from the cookie jar,

 

[GloveSave1]

No way, we have to dwell on this for at least another week, probably more if the teams continues to drop games.

Maybe they are following the new way of dealing with the media model...do something dastardly and or stupid enough to draw the focus away from everything else. Heh

 

[BruinDust]

When Kevin Miller is turning over pucks and its in Bruins net seconds later then somewhere Claude will be smiling to himself as Cassidy gets tore apart by media and fans alike.Like I said.Put lips stick on the pig but its still a pig.

Or maybe, just maybe, when Kevan Miller is turning the puck over and resulting in goals against, Cassidy will look at Kevan and say "have a seat".

And then the next time an egregious error is made by Kevan resulting in a goal against, Cassidy will tell Kevan he's sitting upstairs next game.

It is possible.

That certainly wasn't going to happen under Julien. We can be pretty certain of that.

 

[LSCII]

Or maybe, just maybe, when Kevan Miller is turning the puck over and resulting in goals against, Cassidy will look at Kevan and say "have a seat".

And then the next time an egregious error is made by Kevan resulting in a goal against, Cassidy will tell Kevan he's sitting upstairs next game.

It is possible.

That certainly wasn't going to happen under Julien. We can be pretty certain of that.

This is exactly correct. I never understood why marginal veteran players were given the leeway to make horrendous mistakes, but when a young guy with offensive upside did the same thing, they'd get a seat for weeks.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

Or maybe, just maybe, when Kevan Miller is turning the puck over and resulting in goals against, Cassidy will look at Kevan and say "have a seat".

And then the next time an egregious error is made by Kevan resulting in a goal against, Cassidy will tell Kevan he's sitting upstairs next game.

It is possible.

That certainly wasn't going to happen under Julien. We can be pretty certain of that.

Bang on ! I was just going to post the same thing but you beat me to it .

 

[22Brad Park]

Or maybe, just maybe, when Kevan Miller is turning the puck over and resulting in goals against, Cassidy will look at Kevan and say "have a seat".

And then the next time an egregious error is made by Kevan resulting in a goal against, Cassidy will tell Kevan he's sitting upstairs next game.

It is possible.

That certainly wasn't going to happen under Julien. We can be pretty certain of that.

I will give you that.But at the end of the day they simply do not have enough talent on the backend.Its ugly to tell you the truth.That Toronto Game showed it big time. I do not see Cassidy making much difference at all to be frank.He might get some guys in better shape but in the NHL you need talent to win.Bruins will miss playoffs 3rd straight year is smart money..

 

[ranold26]

Today wasn't the only shady thing done during the whole "Julien is going to get fired" process. Think of all the times where this topic came up in articles with quotes from JJ, Charlie, Cam and/or Donny.
As far as I'm concerned, this was handled inefficiently and unprofessionally.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what we think or what the optics are, the Bruins do what they want.
We get the club that we deserve.....and the only power you can control is your wallet.

 

[BruinDust]

I will give you that.But at the end of the day they simply do not have enough talent on the backend.Its ugly to tell you the truth.That Toronto Game showed it big time. I do not see Cassidy making much difference at all to be frank.He might get some guys in better shape but in the NHL you need talent to win.Bruins will miss playoffs 3rd straight year is smart money..

No argument here. Totally agree.

The D looked good in the early stages. Then slowly but surely the wheels fell off.

 

[BruinDust]

This is exactly correct. I never understood why marginal veteran players were given the leeway to make horrendous mistakes, but when a young guy with offensive upside did the same thing, they'd get a seat for weeks.

Go and listen to Marchand's comments post-Julien firing. Even he acknowledge Julien's hard treatment of young players.

There was a class system in that room, and it wasn't stars vs. marginal players, but veterans vs. young guys, marginal or not. And you can be sure some vets, probably star vets, disagreed with the "free pass" some of the marginal vets got.

Heck, even some of the star vets got free passes that were unwarranted (cough....Krejci....cough).

 

[HumBucker]

First thing that crossed my mind was "I guess they'll hire Hitchcock now." But it looks like they'll let Cassady ride out the season.

I like Julien. I supported him overall. Great coach. Some of his roster and shoot-out decisions were a little baffling, but overall, I think he did a great job.

We'll see if Cassady does any better. Probably it was just a time for a change, which is what happens in almost every organization or team after a number of years with the same leadership. Perhaps a new HC will be the shakeup this team needs to raise their game and their consistency.

Thanks, Claude, for all the years, and best of luck Coach Cassady.

 

[BRUINS since 1995]

Sad day for me as a Bruins fan. Replacement by an assistant! Then hockey moves will be made accordingly to management decision, let see how they will manage victory and then fire Cassidy!! Voted buyer.... now i m a seller. Don't feel they know what they are doing.

Congrats Pats. Happy parade Claude.

 

[Mpasta]

Honestly, I could not care less about how this was done...I am just glad that they did something. I cannot think of a nice way to be fired...
I have thought that CJ'S time had passed for a couple of years...not because he is a bad coach, but rather that the has changed and he was seemingly not changing in accordance. This league is built on speed and skill. As good as CJ'S system is/was, it was becoming obvious that it could not overcome the challenges posed by speedy, skilled teams.

I know that the roster did not help, but most teams now build through development and the FA market. While the conspiracy that CJ hated youth is just bullcrap, he certainly did/does not like young players who were solid offensively but suspect defensively. Those players were put on a VERY short leash.

Suffice it to say...it is time for a change.

I don't know, all this focus on timing seems to be getting off track, to me. I really couldn't care less...I'm conscious and capable of paying attention to two things at once...

I get it. It was a "sly move." Way to call them out. Now...let's get back to business.

I mostly agree. I understand why people are upset about the timing of the firing but at the end of the day, does it really matter other than people's feelings? Is Claude more upset about being fired or when he was fired? Does it change the outcome of any future games?

Go and listen to Marchand's comments post-Julien firing. Even he acknowledge Julien's hard treatment of young players.

There was a class system in that room, and it wasn't stars vs. marginal players, but veterans vs. young guys, marginal or not. And you can be sure some vets, probably star vets, disagreed with the "free pass" some of the marginal vets got.

Heck, even some of the star vets got free passes that were unwarranted (cough....Krejci....cough).

You don't even have to listen to Marchand's comments. You could see it for many years in the post game when Claude would only blame the young players for mistakes but let any veteran off of the hook.