Claude Fired II, All Clode Discussion here

BigBear83

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the more i read people whining about the parade makes me think that this a really smart move on the bruins part.. well kind of a double edged sword really. the whole city has nothing but celtics and bruins for two months. everyone is now talking about the bruins and will tune in to see if this will result in a train wreck. but what if they play the young kids, find a resurgence in the vets and make a playoff push. crazier things have happened (pretty sure we all just watched it sunday night) . all of a sudden you breathe new life into a fanbase that is on the downfall just in time for a batch of young skilled highly (TBD) prospects into the mix. optimistic .. you damn right i am. ive been sick of the claude bruins for the last couple of years. something needed a change. i loved listening to donny at the mic. he may not talk very often but when he does he speaks of a future with talent and talent that can adapt to this new nhl we all see other teams skate ..... of course... the other side of the sword is that they crash and burn and continue to get pummeled on by all the onlookers.
-long post i understand , but lets move on, i cant wait to see if change is what this team/organization needs. we need to see something different on the ice and today was the first step!
 

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How many of you are aware that the back up goalies have a combined 1 win in 17 games and have brutal numbers?

As far as comments about players tuning out Julien, how many of you are aware that the Bruins lead the league in shot differential per game by a mile? Even if the shots for are a bit misleading, they still allow the second least shots against per game and outplay their opponents on most nights. This team has been sunk by the brutal back up goaltending, how is that Julien's fault?

thats 100% CJ's fault that backups can't win a game. Don't you know they have a different system to play when its not Tuukka in net.
 

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Pierre McGuire stated recently he knows for a fact that Julien would have been fired in 2011 if they had lost to Tampa in the ECF.

I think there were 2 occasions in the past where he was hanging by a thread. Best regular season record followed by a first round ouster,and the 4 straight losses to Philly come to mind. In their last playoff appearance,they hit 19 posts against Montreal but were outworked and outskated by Montreal despite having a loaded team.
 

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Great coach, I think he's the best in the NHL but I still think this was the right decision. No matter how good you are, NHL players start to tune out after that many years.
 

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Yes, typically the Stanley Cup champions have great goaltending.

Both Quick and Tuukka had better numbers than Thomas in the two years after 2011. Thomas was great, but not many teams make it without great goaltending, and rarely is it the whole story. It does conveniently allow one to take all credit away from a coach, if one is wont to do.
 

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I totally for got about the timing of the Chia firing:


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bruins...timing-of-cluade-julien-firing-182745805.html
Sweeney apologized for the timing of the announcement and his press conference, which occurred just after the New England Patriots’ championship parade started in Boston.

He defended that timing by saying that the decision would have been criticized for its scheduling had it been made over the weekend or on Monday, in the aftermath of the Patriots’ win. But just like when the Bruins fired GM Peter Chiarelli minutes after the Aaron Hernandez verdict arrived, it was obvious the team was using the parade to help dull the impact of their bombshell news, despite Sweeney’s claims to the contrary.

“I’m not trying to take away in any way, shape or form. Or deflect or try and mute the impact of my decision this morning,” said Sweeney.

odd how these things just occur
 

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2013 we basically lost in the first round to the Leafs

I think Claude should adapt this logic and go into Sweeney's office and say:

"We basically made the playoffs the last two seasons. We'll basically make it this season. Can I have my job back?"
 

DarrenBanks56

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Winning ONLY 1 cup in 5 seasons is embarrassing?

People talk about Thomas like he lead some Cinderella 8th seed to a cup they never deserved.

Bruin were one of the best teams in hockey in 2011. The best 5 on 5 team in the sport. The games best shut-down tandem in Chara-Seidenberg. The best shut-down 1-2-3 center ice combo in the sport in Krejci-Bergeron-Kelly.

Give it a decent PP and they probably steamroll their way to a cup.

Thomas played a huge part, but the lack of credit the rest of the group gets is comical here sometimes.

the teams they had from 09-14 should've brought home at least 2 Cups. probably 3. Just like Chicago did.
 

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President Cam Neely issued the following statement:

“These decisions are not easy, and Don has my full support. I believe that we have a better team than our results to date show. I also recognize that there are areas that we as a group need to improve upon. This decision does not in any way diminish Claude’s legacy as a Bruins coach. I would like to wish him and his family all the best moving forward.â€


**** you !

Bruins Owner Jeremy Jacobs

"I want to thank Claude for his service to the Boston Bruins, and wish him and his family the best in the future. I am confident in the direction and vision that Don has for our team, and look forward to seeing the results on the ice."

Bruins CEO Charlie Jacobs

"Claude Julien is the all-time winningest coach in Boston Bruins history, and my family and I join Bruins fans in thanking him for the many great memories that have come while he has been behind the Bruins bench.

As a management team, we set a high standard for ourselves, and I believe that our organization is moving in the right direction towards meeting and exceeding those standards."


And both of you !
 

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Totally agree. Take out anyone out of that 2011 roster and they probably don't win the cup.

Horton with the OT winner in game 7 vs. the habs and the only goal in the game 7 win over Tampa. Without Horton we don't win.

Bergy - doing everything right all the time without him we don't win

Marchand punching sedin in the face because he felt like it. without him we don't win.

Lucic running over people and telling Borrows to bit his finger. without him we don't win

speaking of fingers does anyone think we win without Ferences finger that year?

Take out Ryder and his glove save (that Thomas was out of position to make) without that we don't win.

no Raptor Jesus and Cage Kelly to win a game against the habs all alone while the rest of the team didn't step up that game. Without them we don't win.

Krejci leading the post season in points that year. without him we don't win.

Chara shutting down everyone and everything on the ice. without him we don't win.

Bergy getting hurt and seguin coming into tampa and lighting it up. without him we don't win.

that list goes on and on that 2011 run was a total team effort and took everyone to win. Thomas played fantastic and deserved the MVP but he was not at all the only reason CJ won the cup not even close.

Seidenberg clearing every loose puck from the crease like a demented street sweeper, without him we don't win.

Claude coaching a team that was predicted to get swept by a powerhouse to an overall 28-8 goal differential in the Final, without him we don't win.
 

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Totally agree. Take out anyone out of that 2011 roster and they probably don't win the cup.

Horton with the OT winner in game 7 vs. the habs and the only goal in the game 7 win over Tampa. Without Horton we don't win.

Bergy - doing everything right all the time without him we don't win

Marchand punching sedin in the face because he felt like it. without him we don't win.

Lucic running over people and telling Borrows to bit his finger. without him we don't win

speaking of fingers does anyone think we win without Ferences finger that year?

Take out Ryder and his glove save (that Thomas was out of position to make) without that we don't win.

no Raptor Jesus and Cage Kelly to win a game against the habs all alone while the rest of the team didn't step up that game. Without them we don't win.

Krejci leading the post season in points that year. without him we don't win.

Chara shutting down everyone and everything on the ice. without him we don't win.

Bergy getting hurt and seguin coming into tampa and lighting it up. without him we don't win.

that list goes on and on that 2011 run was a total team effort and took everyone to win. Thomas played fantastic and deserved the MVP but he was not at all the only reason CJ won the cup not even close.

Absolutely. Spot on.

That was a TEAM that got the great goaltending every cup winner needs.

It's like Thomas's record setting regular season numbers. He doesn't do that without this squad in front of him. That's not a knock on Thomas, it's simply the truth.
 

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Seidenberg clearing every loose puck from the crease like a demented street sweeper, without him we don't win.

Claude coaching a team that was predicted to get swept by a powerhouse to an overall 28-8 goal differential in the Final, without him we don't win.

Didn't know that was him standing on his head in net :amazed:
 

DarrenBanks56

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I think Claude should adapt this logic and go into Sweeney's office and say:

"We basically made the playoffs the last two seasons. We'll basically make it this season. Can I have my job back?"

Not about making the playoffs.
in 09. We dominated the league. lost in round 2. on home ice game 7. to the HURRICANES
in 10. Blew a 3-0 lead and 3-0 lead in game 7.
in 11 won the Cup. I thank Thomas for his stellar play
in 12 lost in round 1 another game 7 on home ice.
in 13 pretty much lost in round 1- ended up getting to the finals after some good matchups. Rask played well because it was a half season.
in 14 should've won the Cup- Seides got hurt- Chia didn't replace his role- But we lose again in round 2- on home ice- in game 7.
15 and 16- no playoffs.

So we lose 4x on home ice in game 7 in rounds 1 and 2. Shouldve been 5x if not for a miracle comeback
 

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In his defense, Neely was busy. Harry had him check Wikipedia to see if Fred creighton was still alive to coach the team....

Thanks so much for speaking on behalf of the leagues general managers, polling them must have been a lot of work. Reminds me of Baghdad bob speaking for the regime.

Hey, since you have the ear of leagues gms could you anonomously ask them to rate don Sweeney and cam Neely on a scale of 1-10? My guess is once they stop laughing it comes in around .03.


In response to the bolded (which came from the last thread):

I didn't have to poll the GM's "anonymously". I have seen several GM's and ex-GM's asked the question publicly about interfering with the HC on lineup decisions. The most recent one was ex-Ranger GM Neil Smith on the NHL Network who said (paraphrase) GM's can bring players up, sign them, etc., but that the coach decides who plays and how much, and that it would undermine the authority of the coach if a GM were to tell him who to play. He went on to say that he had never heard of a GM doing that. Smith was a GM in the NHL for 11 years with NY, so I will take him at his word.

Sweeney said the same thing today about that not being his job even if he disagreed with some of the choices Clode made.

Instead of being snarky, why don't you do a little research next time?
 

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the 2010 and 2012 teams were just not that good.

2010 shouldn't of gotten as far as they did given the circumstances.

2012 losing Horton was their achilles heel, added zippo at the deadline, that and Braeden friggin' Holtby. Also got red hot at the wrong time (Nov-Dec) and coasted the rest of the way.
 

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the teams they had from 09-14 should've brought home at least 2 Cups. probably 3. Just like Chicago did.

Except there was this team, located in Chicago, taking home those cups.

Didn't realize there could be more than 1 cup winner per season.
 

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Bruins fans rip GM Don Sweeney after team fires Claude Julien

The Bruins have been a floundering group this season, sitting at 26-23-6 at the time of Julien’s firing, and they’ve missed the playoffs two consecutive years. So, in some sense Julien has been on the hot seat ever since Sweeney became the Bruins’ GM in May 2015.

Firing Julien, who was replaced by interim coach Bruce Cassidy, is the latest move from Sweeney that has raised eyebrows.

Sweeney traded away the likes of Milan Lucic, Dougie Hamilton, Carl Soderberg and Reilly Smith prior to the 2015-16 season to accumulate draft picks. He selected Jakub Zboril, Jake DeBrusk and Zachary Senyshyn with the 13th-, 14th- and 15th-overall picks, respectively in the draft. All three players went earlier in the draft than their projections had indicated they’d go.

In addition to that, several of the high-profile additions Sweeney has made (namely David Backes, Matt Beleskey and Jimmy Hayes) have underperformed in a Bruins sweater.

 

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All Jokes aside, the handling of his firing seems no more professional than the crap I wrote above. Full disclosure I am not a bruins fan, worse I am a Habs fan. Looking from the outside, maybe it was time for a change but he is certainly not the reason for this mess or the B`s biggest problem.

The fact that they do it 3 games before a 1000, on the day of the patriots parade, and Neely and Jacobs don`t have the balls to show up and speak to the media says volumes about what is wrong with this franchise.

We need to get the B`s back to being dominant- Its way more fun playing you guys in the playoffs when you are the favorite.

I agree with all that and I take anything Pierre Maguire says with a grain of salt. Didn't he also say if Julien was available, he knows of five teams that would instantly fire their coach and hire him? Not that I think Claude will be out of work long, but that reeks of hyperbole disguised as 'inside information.'
 

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