Post-Game Talk: Christmas Dinner Hangover: Jets lose 4-1

[jefferoni]

Whew, what a relief! Johnny Snotty says he's fine (except for that little voice in his head telling him to stop being such a whiny dbag)...

 

[KingBogo]

Yea from about 2:00PM on this week there is no one in the pool area other than one or two crazy Canadian’s.....this isn’t peak pool season in Arizona. The senior tensies show up at about 3:00 and don't swim they sit in the tall grass and clock watch and crank themselves up waiting for little baby gazelle’s to get too close to the water then “BAM” spring their trap.

This made me chuckle. But so true about human nature. If someone else gets more it means I got less even if I didn't want it in the 1st place.

 

[KingBogo]

Maurice didn't change Laine's game. McCabe did.

This is a thought provoking post. Not sure I totally buy it, but just maybe there is more tentativeness to his game as a result that he has never got past.

 

[204hockey]

Connor puts effort into his play away from the puck at least.

In the d zone ? Just cus he's moving doesn't mean he's doing the right plays he's just as bad as laine but there boh young I'm just trying to point out so laine isnt always the whipping boy

 

[204hockey]

This is a thought provoking post. Not sure I totally buy it, but just maybe there is more tentativeness to his game as a result that he has never got past.

It def can be.. Only confidence and time helps but it will always be in the back of his mind and a reason he is always bracing for a hit while receiving a pass in his own end wich cashes that second delay and creates enough time for the forecheckers to pounce

 

[Jets 31]

This is a thought provoking post. Not sure I totally buy it, but just maybe there is more tentativeness to his game as a result that he has never got past.

I think it made Laine keep his head up more than he did before the hit but to me his game is the same , if Laine isn't scoring his flaws in his game show more .

 

[204hockey]

Nah. I haven't liked Trouba since he has a made a big fuss about signing long term and watching him cough up puck in the jets neutral zone against Vegas

Unless he's gotten a lot better since last year which I don't think he has

How bout that amazing d play where he broke up the back door tap in after morrisey over played his gap and had his man fly by him ? Oh ya he didn't sign long term so let's ignore it

 

[Eyeseeing]

In the d zone ? Just cus he's moving doesn't mean he's doing the right plays he's just as bad as laine but there boh young I'm just trying to point out so laine isnt always the whipping boy

I get that .
Laine wasn’t all bad last night but there were 2 instances where we gave up
Possession in the O zone and his retreat was pretty lacklustre and perhaps it’s simply frustration.
I find Connor is always giving it his all and yes he’s been in a slump too.

 

[Adam da bomb]

How bout that amazing d play where he broke up the back door tap in after morrisey over played his gap and had his man fly by him ? Oh ya he didn't sign long term so let's ignore it

Yep Trouba also gave up the two on one by shooting puck into shin and turning the wrong way. He also is not as creative in oz always going for shot from blueline. So Mo may also make mistakes but that doesn't make Trouba's play good.

 

[204hockey]

Your point is generally well made, but that was a ****ing **** show. There's no ****ing way Byfuglien took two penalties at the end, but they're watching ****ing Johnny Trademark bawling his eyes out and getting all coked up.
If those clowns always get officiating like that it's no wonder the pretenders think they're so good.

;D

 

[Board Bard]

I think it made Laine keep his head up more than he did before the hit but to me his game is the same , if Laine isn't scoring his flaws in his game show more .

Keeping his head up more might be a reason why he flubs so many passes, including ones that a kid should be able to make no problem. I don't think he's as good at carrying the puck without looking at it as he thinks he is. Same could be true of Ehlers, though I think Ehlers is better at it.

 

[Gotaf7]

Maurice didn't change Laine's game. McCabe did.

Agreed has never been the same! What does a one trick pony, power play specialist earn in todays NHL?

 

[JetsFan815]

I have watched almost every shift Laine has played starting with the World Championships during his draft year. He has always played like this... I don't think there has been any noticeable change in his game since the hit.

 

[Whileee]

In my opinion: to win a cup, we need...

...either Little to find a new gear offensively, or to acquire a new 2c to complement Laine (the way Stastny did). Little’s blown-one-timer tonight (whole net available: shoots way wide) is just one of many sad examples. I hope Toews is on the market, and feels nostalgic for his home town.

...either Trouba to find a new gear defensively, or to trade him for a shut-down stay-at-home D to pair with Morrissey. Trouba is making the same reckless forays & pinches for which we used to criticize Buff (see Calgary’s first goal, and many others this season). Don’t know who might be available (?).

...Hellebuyck to find another gear.

Problem on the 2nd line last night wasn't Little, it was the two wingers.

 

[Whileee]

This is a thought provoking post. Not sure I totally buy it, but just maybe there is more tentativeness to his game as a result that he has never got past.

I don't think it's tentativeness, especially through the neutral zone. The issue is that he has always played like a scorer, looking for soft spots in the offensive zone. That takes him away from puck support, so his linemates have more work to do in puck pursuit and possession. Also, he still struggles in puck protection. He'll work it out, but for now it means that he relies a lot on his linemates to generate offense, with his role more as a finisher.

 

[Get Bengt]

Problem on the 2nd line last night wasn't Little, it was the two wingers.

I was basing my post on Little’s play over he past year. (Ditto Trouba, ditto Hellebuyck.) This Calgary loss merely highlighted what, to me, are three things standing between us and a Cup.

Don’t get me wrong: the line-up “as is” is plenty good enough to get “8 in 5” against the bottom 50%, and “6 in 5” against the next-best 40%. But it is painfully obvious to me that we still have chinks in the armour the league’s best can and will exploit.

Agree Laine had, by his standards, a bad game. “Just” a couple of sweet setups, a couple of shots hard enough to handcuff, and a howitzer wrister that hit the inside of a post - in 11 min 5x5 + 3 min PP (how’d Wheeler do, in his 16 + 3 + 2?) But I saw nothing in Laine’s game that a long-term pairing with a superior 2-way centre won’t fix.

 

[Tommigun]

Problem on the 2nd line last night wasn't Little, it was the two wingers.

What problem on the 2nd line last night? I thought they looked decent. Also you can’t miss those semi open nets so many times in one game. Some of the critique of Laine and Connor is ridiculous.

The 1st line had more of a problem, at least in my eyes. They didn’t seem to want to backcheck at all.

 

[DiggerD]

Ahhhh I think that is officially the one millionth whine about linemates. Amazing.

 

[ps241]

How bout that amazing d play where he broke up the back door tap in after morrisey over played his gap and had his man fly by him ? Oh ya he didn't sign long term so let's ignore it

I have been guilty of viewer bias before too. Once any of us starts watching for mistakes and start ignoring good plays it’s amazing how shitty any player can look.

 

[Bigfish]

Agreed has never been the same! What does a one trick pony, power play specialist earn in todays NHL?

$8.25 million starting next year.

 

[Peggy]

How bout that amazing d play where he broke up the back door tap in after morrisey over played his gap and had his man fly by him ? Oh ya he didn't sign long term so let's ignore it

I'm moreconcerned with stupid passes in the neutral in big games against Vegas in the conference than anything else
Also him fking up the salary cap space situation isn't helping Chevy either

But sure that one play was sick eh

 

[Zhamnov5GoalGame]

Why do we keep PGT open when GDT are open?
Just move your conversations over there.

 

[Ducky10]

Get over to the f***ing Wild GDT!!