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Chris Thorburn Appreciation Thread

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Maukkis said:
Please retire. That's about the best that could happen to him, provided that he's set financially.
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Cumulative $8,990,000 over his 11 year NHL career.
Me ~$2,000,000 over 57 years. I'm reasonably secure for life.

If he is not set financially to maintain a modest life style he has been doing it wrong.
 
He tried hard. He was a great mentor to the young ones. But players of his ilk have no room in the NHL anymore.

I hope he is not resigned. The Moose would be lucky to have him as an unofficial player-coach for a few years. Coaching may be a solid move in his future.
 
Mortimer Snerd said:
Cumulative $8,990,000 over his 11 year NHL career.
Me ~$2,000,000 over 57 years. I'm reasonably secure for life.

If he is not set financially to maintain a modest life style he has been doing it wrong.
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Agents and management take a big chunk of that, same with taxes. If he lives modestly though, you're right, he's fine.

I appreciate the effort he gave night-in, night-out, and was obviously well-liked in the dressing room. He played with a lot of heart, and stood up as a goon (albeit sometimes not a good one). I remember his SHG deke pretty clearly, and hope he either joins the Moose, or gets an office position with TNSE. Wish him all the best.
 
Bryzgalovs Cat said:
Agents and management take a big chunk of that, same with taxes. If he lives modestly though, you're right, he's fine.

I appreciate the effort he gave night-in, night-out, and was obviously well-liked in the dressing room. He played with a lot of heart, and stood up as a goon (albeit sometimes not a good one). I remember his SHG deke pretty clearly, and hope he either joins the Moose, or gets an office position with TNSE. Wish him all the best.
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Player agent fees are between 3-6%

Escrow has been a much larger portion since the lockout..around 15%

Those come off before taxes.

Taxes have gone up recently. Marginal rate above $200k in Manitoba is currently around 50% but was around 47% for most of his time in Winnipeg
 
Aavco Cup said:
Player agent fees are between 3-6%

Escrow has been a much larger portion since the lockout..around 15%

Those come off before taxes.

Taxes have gone up recently. Marginal rate above $200k in Manitoba is currently around 50% but was around 47% for most of his time in Winnipeg
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I read this from Sean Avery's Tribune article, not sure how accurate it is.:

Taxes take about half (if you take no evasive tax action), agent and management fees take 25 percent, and the NHL snatches another 20 percent to put in escrow, which the owners balance out at the end of the season. Sometimes, they use the players’ cash to help small-market teams. Sometimes we’d get a refund. But for The New Avery Rule purposes, consider it gone. So really, that $13.2 million becomes $660,000 — which is still a lot of money, but you have to make that last for the next 50 or 60 years because if you have a five-and-a-half year NHL career, you’ve retired at age 25 or 26.
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An okay fourth line forward for much of his tenure, and a great guy in the room. Not going to be shedding any tears for losing him though.

Unfortunately for him, I'll mostly remember him for being a pretty sucky on ice fighter for the jets. Fair play to him, he definitely did a good job embracing the role, but he just wasn't up to snuff compared to other enforcers in the league. I respect him more as a person because of that, but it was frustrating to watch as a fan.

He has a place in a hockey organization now. Not sure if coaching is going to be his thing, but I bet he would be a solid guy to have in the organization, especially as a player liaison and outreach role.
 
Aavco Cup said:
He's exaggerating. Everywhere I can find says agent fees range 3-5% or 3-6%

Not sure exactly what "management fees" are.
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Apparently a manager is the person you pay two-and-a-half million dollars to tell you to wear glasses so you look like less of an *******.

:laugh:
 
Bryzgalovs Cat said:
I read this from Sean Avery's Tribune article, not sure how accurate it is.:
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I'd have a couple questions for Avery. If he is paying that kind of money to a management company and they haven't made you rich in a very fertile investment environment since 2009 you are an idiot. And why at age 25 or 26 would you never be able to work for a living?
 
Thorburn had a 750 N.H.L game career.

52 goals 127 points

4 playoff games / no playoff wins


Next year Jets are where Nashville is now. ( conference finals)
 
KingBogo said:
I'd have a couple questions for Avery. If he is paying that kind of money to a management company and they haven't made you rich in a very fertile investment environment since 2009 you are an idiot. And why at age 25 or 26 would you never be able to work for a living?
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Avery is a meathead. I doubt he could conduct a reasonable conversation without the management company to help him out.

Either he's exaggerated (yeah like it isn't a given), or someone saw a suckers coming from miles away and took him to the bank.
 
Appreciate his effort, but time for the Jets to move on. In no way should they be bringing him back.
 
Anyways I'm sure Thorburn has more than enough money for himself and his family after playing a long nhl career

This appreciation thread kind of gets derailed with op saying how they hope thorburn is re-signed

The only reason why you would want him back his blind loyalty
We actually have better players than thorburn
 
There's no reason for Thorburn to retire at this point. He can still play this game on any AHL team in the league and be a contributing member.
 
koth said:
There's no reason for Thorburn to retire at this point. He can still play this game on any AHL team in the league and be a contributing member.
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Maybe... maybe not. He's been below NHL replacement level for a good 5-6 years. That's 5-6 years most players would be in the AHL fading away...
 
DEANYOUNGBLOOD17 said:
Thorburn had a 750 N.H.L game career.

52 goals 127 points

4 playoff games / no playoff wins


Next year Jets are where Nashville is now. ( conference finals)
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NHL pension plan kicks in after 400 games played IIRC - and while it's probably not awesome, it's also probably a lot more than most peoples' pensions. Added to what a player should have saved/invested, there's no reason to feel sorry for a NHL player's retirement income.

Courtesy of the Society of Actuaries:

Players earn one quarter of a year’s benefits for every 20 credited
games, and they are vested in their benefits as soon as they earn
them. A player who has earned 10 full years of benefits will have earned
the maximum benefit payable by law. The maximum benefit is
$210,000 for 2014 and 2015. Benefits are prorated for players
who earned less than 10 full years’ worth of benefits.
The plan considers age 62 to be standard retirement age, but
players may begin receiving retirement benefits as early as age 45
with reductions to reflect that they will receive them for a longer
time.
 
Bryzgalovs Cat said:
I read this from Sean Avery's Tribune article, not sure how accurate it is.:
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Highly exaggerated. Do NHL players who 'retire' at 25-26 not do any work for the rest of their lives? If that is the case they deserve their financial problems. :laugh:
 
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