Prospect Info: CHL Playoffs (Road to the Memorial Cup)

[Kudo Shinichi]

Something I noticed is that the Frontenacs don't specifically look to pass the puck to Wright. Normally, when a special talent is on the ice, you would want to pass him the puck as much as possible, but the Frontenacs don't do that. As a result, Wright doesn't have as many puck touches as you would expect and I think that's part of the reason why Wright doesn't look dynamic. Hard to look dynamic when you don't have the puck that often.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Windsor takes a 2-1 series lead with a 6-2 win tonight.
- Sobolev with 0 pts / +1 / 2 SOG

 

[Eco]

I have often thought about watching the QMJHL, but I can't find the stats on the playoffs going on. I see Quebec aren't in it, but it looks like they were a top team and won their last few games..?

 

[Hacketts]

Apples and Oranges. There are 21 year olds playing in the OHL playoffs. After the 1st round, the only OHL players with more points than Wright were all 2001 and 2002 born. He's a 2004.

Perspective.

Maybe he should start playing like his 15 yr self then.

For the all hype he gets, I would say this isn't a strong showing.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Sherbrooke will take on Blainville-Boisbriand in the 2nd round.

Charlottetown is still waiting who they will face in the 2nd round.

AB is hoping to win the next game to force a Game 5.

 

[Goldenhands]

Something I noticed is that the Frontenacs don't specifically look to pass the puck to Wright. Normally, when a special talent is on the ice, you would want to pass him the puck as much as possible, but the Frontenacs don't do that. As a result, Wright doesn't have as many puck touches as you would expect and I think that's part of the reason why Wright doesn't look dynamic. Hard to look dynamic when you don't have the puck that often.

Wright doesnt have the puck much because:

1-He is weak on pucks and not hungry enough to get it.
2-He looks for a passing option as soon as he feels some pressure and basically never challenge defensemen 1 on 1. Doesnt hold on the puck very long, he is just not a play driver.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Maybe he should start playing like his 15 yr self then.

For the all hype he gets, I would say this isn't a strong showing.

1.33 points per game ain't too shabby. Especially given he plays a mature 200 foot game.

He would have killed it at the WU18.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[jrom]

** Mysak was not in the line-up **

He was badly hit last game, arm injury it seems Hamilton Bulldogs 2021-22 Season Thread

 

[jrom]

I definitely understand that regarding his size, or really lack there of for Cooley. Initially that was my major concern with Cooley, but he plays with a bit of fire, you see his competitiveness. I've said this before but if you have that desire and mix that with his skills you can go along way in this league. Just look at who is behind our bench, and tell me which player would thrive better.

We've been missing that high end skill for way too long, and we might have a golden opportunity to draft it. Tell me how it would go if he starts surfing in Montreal, that's not a good trait for any hockey player to have.

I think it was telling that Hugues's answer on what they look for first when drafting was "character" which I interpret as compete level, ability do deal with media/playoff pressure, will to improve, teamwork. Didn't mention speed, size, talent, upside, advanced stats.

It's probably a good idea but clearly also a very subjective criteria since they have access to more confidential info then us (interviews, etc) and it gives you the freedom to say "stats don't tell everything" when explaining a pick.

Wright is said to have a great work ethic but maybe they prefer Cooley's bulldog compete level even if he's "less talented/big" to avoid the Tavares/Nylander/Gaudreau playoff effect.

 

[Hacketts]

I think it was telling that Hugues's answer on what they look for first when drafting was "character" which I interpret as compete level, ability do deal with media/playoff pressure, will to improve, teamwork. Didn't mention speed, size, talent, upside, advanced stats.

It's probably a good idea but clearly also a very subjective criteria since they have access to more confidential info then us (interviews, etc) and it gives you the freedom to say "stats don't tell everything" when explaining a pick.

Wright is said to have a great work ethic but maybe they prefer Cooley's bulldog compete level even if he's "less talented/big" to avoid the Tavares/Nylander/Gaudreau playoff effect.

I definitely think the interview process is going to play more of a role than in previous years with this management. Would love to be a fly on the wall for them. The fact Hughes has a bit of an inside track with Cooley is something that shouldn't be overlooked, but in saying that could work for him or against, will be valuable information regardless.

 

[Nicko999]

To those who are disappointed by Wright's playoffs, he is mirroring what Suzuki did. It's eerie how similar their stats are.

Draft year

Regular season PPG: Suzuki: 1.48, Wright: 1.49

Playoffs PPG: Suzuki: 1.35, Wright: 1.33

 

[morhilane]

I think it was telling that Hugues's answer on what they look for first when drafting was "character" which I interpret as compete level, ability do deal with media/playoff pressure, will to improve, teamwork. Didn't mention speed, size, talent, upside, advanced stats.

It's probably a good idea but clearly also a very subjective criteria since they have access to more confidential info then us (interviews, etc) and it gives you the freedom to say "stats don't tell everything" when explaining a pick.

Wright is said to have a great work ethic but maybe they prefer Cooley's bulldog compete level even if he's "less talented/big" to avoid the Tavares/Nylander/Gaudreau playoff effect.

Wright isn't just said to have great work ethic. His coaches and teammates all say he's very competitive and a team player. He was the captain of the World u17 at 15 years old. He's a very mature professional kid.

This year he's not playing like he was 2 years ago and the entire team looks to have no structure. The Kingston coach is just bad and that can have a negative impact on a player. See Caufield this season under Ducharme.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

To those who are disappointed by Wright's playoffs, he is mirroring what Suzuki did. It's eerie how similar their stats are.

Draft year

Regular season PPG: Suzuki: 1.48, Wright: 1.49

Playoffs PPG: Suzuki: 1.35, Wright: 1.33

It’s not enough to some people because Suzuki was taken in the teens where as Wright is a projected 1ovr.

Some people just want that McDavid level production, but he’s not that guy. He’s going to be a 70-to-80pt two-way center.. and that’s great.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It’s not enough to some people because Suzuki was taken in the teens where as Wright is a projected 1ovr.

Some people just want that McDavid level production, but he’s not that guy. He’s going to be a 70-to-80pt two-way center.. and that’s great.

25-35 goals with 40-60 assists providing high level defense.

 

[Adam Michaels]

It’s not enough to some people because Suzuki was taken in the teens where as Wright is a projected 1ovr.

Some people just want that McDavid level production, but he’s not that guy. He’s going to be a 70-to-80pt two-way center.. and that’s great.

Suzuki is also trending in the direction of being a PPG center. If Shane Wright can also be that, then Habs are in business.

Even if one of them is a 70-80 pts center and the other is a 60-70 pts center, while both providing great two-way play, then Habs will have success.

The Bruins won a Stanley Cup, made it to two Cup Finals and were among the best teams in the league for the last decade, and their top-2 centers were Bergeron and Krejci, who were between 65-75 pts two-way centers.

You add to that a Cole Caufield, who will score a ton of goals and put up a lot of points, as well. It will be a fun ride in a few years.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Prospects in playoff action tonight:

- Kidney @ 6PM ET (Game 4 vs. Halifax): AB needs to win to force a Game 5 or else they will be eliminated.
- Guhle @ 9PM ET (Game 4 vs. Red Deer): if Edmonton wins tonight, they will complete the sweep and move on to the Conference Finals.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

25-35 goals with 40-60 assists providing high level defense.

Suzuki is also trending in the direction of being a PPG center. If Shane Wright can also be that, then Habs are in business.

Even if one of them is a 70-80 pts center and the other is a 60-70 pts center, while both providing great two-way play, then Habs will have success.

The Bruins won a Stanley Cup, made it to two Cup Finals and were among the best teams in the league for the last decade, and their top-2 centers were Bergeron and Krejci, who were between 65-75 pts two-way centers.

You add to that a Cole Caufield, who will score a ton of goals and put up a lot of points, as well. It will be a fun ride in a few years.

We’re on the same page boys, the future is looking good! Today is a great day to be a Habs fan! Cheers!

 

[le_sean]

To those who are disappointed by Wright's playoffs, he is mirroring what Suzuki did. It's eerie how similar their stats are.

Draft year

Regular season PPG: Suzuki: 1.48, Wright: 1.49

Playoffs PPG: Suzuki: 1.35, Wright: 1.33

Don’t try with facts, they’ll just come up with different reasons as to why he’s “bad”

 

[Treb]

Don’t try with facts, they’ll just come up with different reasons as to why he’s “bad”

There's a difference between "he's bad" and "he's not as impressive as some previous 1st overall".

Using Suzuki as a comparable actually provide arguments to the latter.

I get Hischier level hype personally. Good player, but not franchise level.

Hopefully I will eat crow.

 

[le_sean]

There's a difference between "he's bad" and "he's not as impressive as some previous 1st overall".

Using Suzuki as a comparable actually provide arguments to the latter.

Bigger Suzuki with a better shot and can win faceoffs. Yeah, I’m happily taking that at 1st overall.

 

[Treb]

Bigger Suzuki with a better shot and can win faceoffs. Yeah, I’m happily taking that at 1st overall.

Would you take that or Matthews/McDavid/Mackinnon/Tavares/Stamkos?

As I said, good player, but I'm not sure he is franchise level.

 

[bcv]

Would you take that or Matthews/McDavid/Mackinnon/Tavares/Stamkos?

As I said, good player, but I'm not sure he is franchise level.

I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Wright can have a Tavares/Stamkos career. He does have the tools to do it.

 

[Gillings]

Something I noticed is that the Frontenacs don't specifically look to pass the puck to Wright. Normally, when a special talent is on the ice, you would want to pass him the puck as much as possible, but the Frontenacs don't do that. As a result, Wright doesn't have as many puck touches as you would expect and I think that's part of the reason why Wright doesn't look dynamic. Hard to look dynamic when you don't have the puck that often.

He doesn't fully exert himself. He's going to the NHL. He knows it. It's similar with ROY. Such weird personalities. I fully expect BOTH Joshroy Ua and Shane Wright to turn it up once in the show.

 

[Treb]

I mean, it's not out of the realm of possibility that Wright can have a Tavares/Stamkos career. He does have the tools to do it.

I guess it's not impossible. He's behind as of now.

All of them had more hype and better record.