CHL Can Now Play NCAA - Changes Everything

[Hockeyville USA]

There it is, Malcolm Spence to Michigan!

 

[WarriorofTime]

De-commits/change of plans aren’t anything new so its weird to pretend they are.

 

[Playmaker09]

I assume players who've signed their ELC can't make the move from the CHL to the NCAA right?

 

[Hockeyville USA]

I assume players who've signed their ELC can't make the move from the CHL to the NCAA right?

Correct. We'll have MLB style occurrences where CHLers have NCAA commitments and then sign ELCs after being drafted and forego the NCAA. Happens in baseball all the time with guys drafted out of HS (who have NCAA commitments as fall back options) and then just sign right after being drafted. Difference is baseball players have to choose whether to sign or not or else the team that drafted them loses their rights, whereas in hockey, they keep their rights for 4 years.

 

[4thline]

If I was the CHL commissioner, in addition to things that I could directly negotiate I would also be pushing the NHL to increase the compensation for ELC players by a significant amount, to get them to sign ELC's as soon as possible. Probably the NHL understands that it's going to have to make AHL life a little more financially appealing for guys on ELC's now that NIL is becoming more established.

It's pretty clear who does and does not drive the bus in the NHLPA when you look at ELC Max, NHL Min, and ELC Minor League limit and how stagnant they've been relative to salaries at large.

05-06- recent 1st overall pick Sidney Crosby enters the league on a 850k base, 3.7 Max bonus cap hit - 2.2 and 9.5% of the 39m cap respectively

2024-25- recent 1st overall pick Macklin Celebrini enters the league on a 950k base, 4.475 max bonus cap hit - 1.1 and 5.1 % of the 88m cap respectively.

Signing bonuses are capped at 10% of base.

Minors salary only went from 62.5k to 85k, league minimum from 450 to 775.

 

[WarriorofTime]

It's pretty clear who does and does not drive the bus in the NHLPA when you look at ELC Max, NHL Min, and ELC Minor League limit and how stagnant they've been relative to salaries at large.

05-06- recent 1st overall pick Sidney Crosby enters the league on a 850k base, 3.7 Max bonus cap hit - 2.2 and 9.5% of the 39m cap respectively

2024-25- recent 1st overall pick Macklin Celebrini enters the league on a 950k base, 4.475 max bonus cap hit - 1.1 and 5.1 % of the 88m cap respectively.

Signing bonuses are capped at 10% of base.

Minors salary only went from 62.5k to 85k, league minimum from 450 to 775.

They ought to tie ELC comp to a % of cap.

 

[4thline]

They ought to tie ELC comp to a % of cap.

You'd think- but more ELC means less money for the voting members, and less of a crutch for GM's tp build their teams.

Really the only incentive to change it would be if it gets too low and starts impairing recruitment, more guys waiting to be redrafted/ go UFA because the minors money/ signing bonus isnt worth it

 

[Blue and Green]

It's pretty clear who does and does not drive the bus in the NHLPA when you look at ELC Max, NHL Min, and ELC Minor League limit and how stagnant they've been relative to salaries at large.

05-06- recent 1st overall pick Sidney Crosby enters the league on a 850k base, 3.7 Max bonus cap hit - 2.2 and 9.5% of the 39m cap respectively

2024-25- recent 1st overall pick Macklin Celebrini enters the league on a 950k base, 4.475 max bonus cap hit - 1.1 and 5.1 % of the 88m cap respectively.

Signing bonuses are capped at 10% of base.

Minors salary only went from 62.5k to 85k, league minimum from 450 to 775.

I'm quite aware of this. However, NIL might act as an impetus to force some increases.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Jaden Lipinski (2004, WHL, Vancouver Giants, Calgary 2023 4th rounder) commits to Maine.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Beau Jelsma (2004, OHL, Barrie Colts) commits to Providence College

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Rylen Roersma (2004, WHL, Edmonton Oil Kings) commits to Alaska Fairbanks

 

[Wieters]

The new reality of recruiting out of the CHL.....the elite talent is to tempting to pass up but the culture and mindset is different and defections to the pros is real.

There is nothing new or different about NCAA commits deciding to change schools, change leagues, or sign ELCs. The availability of these options to the prospects and freedom to choose between them without an organization controlling your fate is one of the benefits of going the college route in the first place.

 

[landy92mack29]

great kid just unfortunate he didn't grow more.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Antonin Verreault (2004, QMJHL, Rouyn Noranda Huskies) commits to Quinnipiac

 

[rsteen]

You'd think- but more ELC means less money for the voting members, and less of a crutch for GM's tp build their teams.

Really the only incentive to change it would be if it gets too low and starts impairing recruitment, more guys waiting to be redrafted/ go UFA because the minors money/ signing bonus isnt worth it

Raising the cap for minor league compensation only means less money for the owners, as it doesn't count on the NHL cap. And a say 500K salary to a couple of NCAA signees in the AHL is pocket change to most owners.