CHL Can Now Play NCAA - Changes Everything

[SpeedyCerviche]

Swift Current needs to prepare for the changing landscape, which they already have with signing Brock Burch (2009, Dubuque Iowa native) to the Standard Player Agreement. Get more US kids up to the Dub before they go to the NCAA

That basically every team really. You have to think that there will be an influx of better 16-17 yr olds in the league, with a lot of (not nearly all) looking to go south at 19-20. Just how it is.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Burch is a weird one. He is not ready in the slightest to play major junior.

Most kids that sign aren’t playing right away but can get in camp, get a few games, etc. most kids don’t become full time players until they’re 17. Of course if top players get raided by ncaa then probably more 09s than you’d typically expect next year.

 

[Kipper933]

Clarke Caswell (2006, WHL, Swift Current Broncos, 2024 Seattle 5th rounder) commits to Denver.

So I've been following these but a bit at an arm's length. But is this the first NHL drafted player that will be in his 19-year old season next year that has committed to the NCAA?


EDIT: nevermind, that would have been Mews

 

[Hockeyville USA]

So I've been following these but a bit at an arm's length. But is this the first NHL drafted player that will be in his 19-year old season next year that has committed to the NCAA?


EDIT: nevermind, that would have been Mews

Ryder Ritchie (2024 2nd, Minnesota) could be another. Seems like he might follow McKenna to Michigan if that's the direction that McKenna goes.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Matthew Mayich (2004, OHL, Ottawa 67s, 2023 St Louis 6th rounder) commits to Clarkson.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

 

[Bonin21]

How is that interesting lol everyone knows it's coming

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Another US kid going to the Dub. US team, which makes it easier of course.

 

[terrierguy11]

Divyer is plugged into BU, Providence and BC the most (and the HE in general). The buzz around any of the top end guys to the HE has been a lot lower than it has been to the B10.

I think some people have overrated the role NIL will play in this. For a lot of guys the difference in NIL payments from Big 10 to HE or NCHC is a fraction of what they will make as a pro. Not to mention that hockey players are generally pretty well off anyways. We have seen a ton of American guys choose for fit, culture, and development. I get a lot of the Canadians won't have a local team like someone from Mass would and maybe its the BU fan in me talking, but I think people are acting like its a whole new game when it comes to recruiting versus just more of what we have seen since NIL was allowed.

 

[jtechkid68]

Clanko media is reporting and quoting a guy from college hockey inc that a lot of chl players recruiting to play college are not meeting NCAA academic requirements to even get in . Thats pretty funny -hopefully Bowling Green can field a team lol. The primarily miss is not taken required 16 courses and 10 in the first 7 semesters . So i dont know how you actually get around that .

 

[goavsblue8]

Divyer is plugged into BU, Providence and BC the most (and the HE in general). The buzz around any of the top end guys to the HE has been a lot lower than it has been to the B10.

I think some people have overrated the role NIL will play in this. For a lot of guys the difference in NIL payments from Big 10 to HE or NCHC is a fraction of what they will make as a pro. Not to mention that hockey players are generally pretty well off anyways. We have seen a ton of American guys choose for fit, culture, and development. I get a lot of the Canadians won't have a local team like someone from Mass would and maybe its the BU fan in me talking, but I think people are acting like its a whole new game when it comes to recruiting versus just more of what we have seen since NIL was allowed.

Agree, psu for example I am pretty sure is just puffing their chest about the 800kish that most b1g schools are giving their teams in rev share. Doubt nil will be much significance at all for the top dudes as 100k to 200k ain’t life changing money and most the top tier schools will be able to come up with that money so it’s not like one school is going be offering 500k while the other is offering nothing(that’s what is going on in basketball and football). There’s waaaaay less money on hockey. Basketball payrolls have hit 10mil+ and football 25mil+. These are still going be hockey and school decisions, nil will just be a nice cherry on top.

 

[Corso]

Clanko media is reporting and quoting a guy from college hockey inc that a lot of chl players recruiting to play college are not meeting NCAA academic requirements to even get in . Thats pretty funny -hopefully Bowling Green can field a team lol. The primarily miss is not taken required 16 courses and 10 in the first 7 semesters . So i dont know how you actually get around that .

That was reported by Brad Schlossman, saying that one OHL silent commit was not able to meet the core NCAA requirements. I believe that if they announce, then the school is confident that the player has met the eligibility standards.

Another US kid going to the Dub. US team, which makes it easier of course.

It's going to be a real interesting WHL U.S. prospects draft. I'm hearing that there will be more Minnesota high school kids who were not drafted but recently listed by various dub teams that will be looking to play in the dub. I wonder then if the U.S. component of the draft will be eliminated and just rolled into the regular draft?

Divyer is plugged into BU, Providence and BC the most (and the HE in general). The buzz around any of the top end guys to the HE has been a lot lower than it has been to the B10.

I think some people have overrated the role NIL will play in this. For a lot of guys the difference in NIL payments from Big 10 to HE or NCHC is a fraction of what they will make as a pro.

I think there are going to be a lot of surprised people on this site when (if but looking more likely now) the House Settlement is implemented and all third party deals (collectives) have to be disclosed if they are above a 600 dollar value.

 

[Boonk]

Have any players made the move yet from USHL to CHL?

What are they waiting for? The season is over for virtually all teams. We were told they would flood to the CHL once it ended.

The seasons are still not over for the USHL or CHL leagues, so no idea why you thought that was a "gotcha" moment or why youre still crying about it.

 

[jtechkid68]

I’m not plugged in but why would the CHL teams want a ton of USA kids on their roster ? I’m not from Canada but i’m sure lot of teams and their fan base wants local Canada kids on their roster ? Like in the future how many USA kids do you think on their rosters / i’m guessing only 2-5high end kids ? Also what about political stuff with Trump and CHL fan base? If i’m USA kid i would want play CHL , just think it’s better everything than USHL but how many USA kids do they want or they don’t care just want win !

 

[goavsblue8]

Bigger difference for schools could be the new schollie stuff. I believe all the b1g schools plus asu are going to 26 while a blue blood is like nodak is supposedly staying at 18. For those wondering why it’s because every scholarship you add on the mens side you have to add a women’s scholarship and the schools with football are the ones that have the revenue to add scholarships.

 

[2Mototik2]

Clanko media is reporting and quoting a guy from college hockey inc that a lot of chl players recruiting to play college are not meeting NCAA academic requirements to even get in . Thats pretty funny -hopefully Bowling Green can field a team lol. The primarily miss is not taken required 16 courses and 10 in the first 7 semesters . So i dont know how you actually get around that .

The quote comes from the College Hockey Inc. executive director in an interview with Brad Schlossman, so, even from someone who doesn't follow NCAA hockey, that quote seems like it's coming from very legitimate sources.

It makes total sense as none of the CHL has needed to be all that worried about meeting NCAA requirements until now.

Broadly speaking of course as each CHL team does their schooling differently, players will graduate high school on time or early and then will take university courses throughout the rest of their CHL careers. Typically, a CHL player who uses up all of their eligibility and then goes on to USports/Canadian university will have finished about one year's worth of credits before they even step on campus.

Clearly the way they are doing high school is good for Canadian universities but not American.

 

[Corso]

I’m not plugged in but why would the CHL teams want a ton of USA kids on their roster ? I’m not from Canada but i’m sure lot of teams and their fan base wants local Canada kids on their roster ? Like in the future how many USA kids do you think on their rosters / i’m guessing only 2-5high end kids ? Also what about political stuff with Trump and CHL fan base? If i’m USA kid i would want play CHL , just think it’s better everything than USHL but how many USA kids do they want or they don’t care just want win !

Can't speak for the various CHL fan bases but if I were a fan then I wouldn't care where the players are from. Same with us, do we care where our commits come from?

Bigger difference for schools could be the new schollie stuff. I believe all the b1g schools plus asu are going to 26 while a blue blood is like nodak is supposedly staying at 18. For those wondering why it’s because every scholarship you add on the mens side you have to add a women’s scholarship and the schools with football are the ones that have the revenue to add scholarships.

NoDak stayed at 18 but does plan to opt in next year.

 

[Corso]

The quote comes from the College Hockey Inc. executive director in an interview with Brad Schlossman, so, even from someone who doesn't follow NCAA hockey, that quote seems like it's coming from very legitimate sources.

It makes total sense as none of the CHL has needed to be all that worried about meeting NCAA requirements until now.

Broadly speaking of course as each CHL team does their schooling differently, players will graduate high school on time or early and then will take university courses throughout the rest of their CHL careers. Typically, a CHL player who uses up all of their eligibility and then goes on to USports/Canadian university will have finished about one year's worth of credits before they even step on campus.

Clearly the way they are doing high school is good for Canadian universities but not American.

I think that most CHL teams will re-orient the education of players who indicate that they may want to pursue the NCAA track.

 

[SpeedyCerviche]

Clanko media is reporting and quoting a guy from college hockey inc that a lot of chl players recruiting to play college are not meeting NCAA academic requirements to even get in . Thats pretty funny -hopefully Bowling Green can field a team lol. The primarily miss is not taken required 16 courses and 10 in the first 7 semesters . So i dont know how you actually get around that .

I know there have been players this past year that have doing some additional classes to be academically eligible with the support of the team.
Contrary to what some may believe, most junior teams are both educating their players on NCAA, and helping them with that step to get into college.
There are some soft commits that will either be delaying the committment by a year and/or school backs off their interest out there currently.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Meeting NCAA eligibility criteria is extremely easy. Anyone not currently meeting it typically just needs like one summer worth to get where they need to be. Happens all the time with European college basketball players since in Europe guys are usually not pursuing school when they pursue sports, so sometimes there's a bit of work to get them back on track if they are now looking at NCAA Sports.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I’m not plugged in but why would the CHL teams want a ton of USA kids on their roster ? I’m not from Canada but i’m sure lot of teams and their fan base wants local Canada kids on their roster ? Like in the future how many USA kids do you think on their rosters / i’m guessing only 2-5high end kids ? Also what about political stuff with Trump and CHL fan base? If i’m USA kid i would want play CHL , just think it’s better everything than USHL but how many USA kids do they want or they don’t care just want win !

There have been Americans in the CHL forever.

European Imports are more "controversial" I suppose but that's a fight Don Cherry lost ages ago. There are 60 CHL teams across three leagues. Recently they tried banning goalies because they thought maybe that would mean more Canadian Goaltenders become NHL Starters by default I guess, but then they realized that was stupid. If a kid that wants one can't hold a roster spot when they're 17/18, they're probably just not very good.

 

[wickedwitch]

Clanko media is reporting and quoting a guy from college hockey inc that a lot of chl players recruiting to play college are not meeting NCAA academic requirements to even get in . Thats pretty funny -hopefully Bowling Green can field a team lol. The primarily miss is not taken required 16 courses and 10 in the first 7 semesters . So i dont know how you actually get around that .

Me calling this back in October:

I think academic eligibility will be an issue, at least at first. Players who have always known they want to play in the NCAA are taking classes and keeping their grades good enough to go to the program that they want. And some of the top programs have genuine academic standards. Meanwhile, CHLers may not have all been keeping their grades up and taking the needed courses, because until now it wasn't a priority. Long-term, this could be corrected, but it might be an issue for the next few years.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Can't speak for the various CHL fan bases but if I were a fan then I wouldn't care where the players are from. Same with us, do we care where our commits come from?

They don't care at all from the fan base of the team i know best. Nobody's gives a crap if their 2cnd line winger is from Manitoba or Minnesota. A lot of people wouldn't even know, nobody who does would spend any time even thinking about it. Not even now, everybody knows some kid following his hockey dreams has f all to do with silly trade wars.

 

[SpeedyCerviche]

There have been Americans in the CHL forever.

European Imports are more "controversial" I suppose but that's a fight Don Cherry lost ages ago. There are 60 CHL teams across three leagues. Recently they tried banning goalies because they thought maybe that would mean more Canadian Goaltenders become NHL Starters by default I guess, but then they realized that was stupid. If a kid that wants one can't hold a roster spot when they're 17/18, they're probably just not very good.

Now the CHL is potentially looking at allowing teams to roster three.

 

[2Mototik2]

I think that most CHL teams will re-orient the education of players who indicate that they may want to pursue the NCAA track.

I think they will have to as well in order to get more players to go the CHL route.

However, if it is the case that a lot of players presently looking towards the NCAA are ineligible, I wonder how much that will impact all the CHL players that are currently in the league. Even if they still haven't finished high school or aren't looking at post-secondary for another year or two, are they retroactively facing potential issues because they may have not done it correctly?