CHL can now play NCAA - change everything !

jtechkid

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As of now, expect to see the top U.S. born prospects continue to follow the NTDP to the NCAA route. Expect most of the next tier to continue choosing the USHL-NCAA route, with a few notable ones beginning to choose the CHL route. The biggest immediate change will be a sharp reduction in the number of high-end Canadians opting for the USHL/BCHL to NCAA route.

I would venture to guess that in time the CHL will begin to offer modified standard agreement contracts that includes an opt out to play NCAA hockey before the age of 20 in order to lure more of the very best U.S. born talent.
that’s exactly my thinking on it -
 

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Would be a great time to segue into allowing 1st round picks to play in the AHL at 19 as well.
CHL won't do that unless they get significant transfer fees from NHL teams to offset the loss of that player. You'd hope a few more US guys coming up to play in the CHL will improve the quality of the league because the CHL as a whole has gotten watered down/weaker lately.

Potential to bump up the import limit to 3 if you change the AHL age in order to offset talent losses.
 
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WarriorofTime

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CHL won't do that unless they get significant transfer fees from NHL teams to offset the loss of that player. You'd hope a few more US guys coming up to play in the CHL will improve the quality of the league because the CHL as a whole has gotten watered down/weaker lately.

Potential to bump up the import limit to 3 if you change the AHL age in order to offset talent losses.
The transfer fee could just mirror the fee they get when the nhl team keeps a teenager on the nhl roster.
 
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Leviathan899

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This is only for aged 20+ players thus far. Those are generally non nhl prospects or long shot undrafted players. You’ll likely see a good amount of players still opting for the ushl in order to be eligible to play in ncaa by age 18. The ushl proper is already producing more draft picks than the QMJHL these days.

I would not expect the USNTDP to be impacted at all. The biggest impact is likely on Canadian Junior A which is pretty cooked at this point.
Should be good for NHL teams to place their 3-7 round picks and free agent signings in the NCAA. Or you can’t actually play with a pro deal, so no FA signings can go. But better for a 20 year old mid to late round pick go to a NCAA program for a couple of seasons rather than depth player in the AHL or ECHL.

plus already had two Ushl tenders leave this year . morin( youngstown) - sawchyn( steel ) leave already and was rumor i hear that Michigan told top 2008 canada kid play CHL instead of ushl - so it’s heating up
Nyman or Valentini?
 

Leviathan899

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Pretty sure at this point the change will only help the CHL guys not getting pro contracts that age out of the league and can go play NCAA at age 20 or 21.

What you are suggesting might happen, but likely years in the future.
Yeah rather than toiling in the ECHL or playing depth minutes in the AHL with limited puck touches, go to the NCAA rather than CIS hockey. Way too many good players never really develop after junior as they see limited AHL action or live the greasy pro life of the Coast, hard to develop down there.
 
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CHL won't do that unless they get significant transfer fees from NHL teams to offset the loss of that player. You'd hope a few more US guys coming up to play in the CHL will improve the quality of the league because the CHL as a whole has gotten watered down/weaker lately.

Potential to bump up the import limit to 3 if you change the AHL age in order to offset talent losses.

Apparently the CHL and the NHL are in low key discussions as to how to modify the transfer agreement. The CHL is looking at a European style model where players are loaned out to the AHL for a set number of games. The idea is to have all junior aged players back by a specific date.

The NHL is also seriously considering changing the draft. Some have said they may reduce it to a 4-round draft, others say the most likely scenario is a hybrid type draft featuring 18 and 20 year old players. So, the first two rounds would exclusively be for 18-year-olds while the rest (4, 6??) of the rounds would be 20-year-old players.

The prospect landscape is in the midst of profound changes.
 

jtechkid

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Apparently the CHL and the NHL are in low key discussions as to how to modify the transfer agreement. The CHL is looking at a European style model where players are loaned out to the AHL for a set number of games. The idea is to have all junior aged players back by a specific date.

The NHL is also seriously considering changing the draft. Some have said they may reduce it to a 4-round draft, others say the most likely scenario is a hybrid type draft featuring 18 and 20 year old players. So, the first two rounds would exclusively be for 18-year-olds while the rest (4, 6??) of the rounds would be 20-year-old players.

The prospect landscape is in the midst of profound changes.
yea i’ve heard players association wants exactly what you regarding hybrid draft and it really makes sense too -
 

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