Navin R Slavin
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I mean, I'd like Greensboro because I'd like to go watch the kids occasionally for $10 a ticket. But if they end up somewhere else, I don't care.
Chicago Wolves Title defense, 22-23 season
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DaveG
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Talk with Anson and say "hey buddy, wanna move the Gladiators to the A?" That or just buy an expansion franchise and put it in Greensboro already.
Chicago is gonna Chicago. They want as much control as they can get and soon as the team starts losing they move to get rid of em. f*** em.
Chicago is gonna Chicago. They want as much control as they can get and soon as the team starts losing they move to get rid of em. f*** em.
Nikishin Go Boom
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the Athletic article made it sound like the Canes want Chicago to be developmental first and winning second. Chicago wasn’t willing to commit to that.
Im assuming our philosophy of the AHL team is going to change because we should have a very large number of prospects in our AHL affiliate over the next 2-3 years versus a higher number of AHL veterans like the last 2-3.
Im assuming our philosophy of the AHL team is going to change because we should have a very large number of prospects in our AHL affiliate over the next 2-3 years versus a higher number of AHL veterans like the last 2-3.
DaveG
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I mean I'll put it this way, there's a reason that the only AHL affiliation that the Wolves ever renewed this century was with an Atlanta organization/ownership group that didn't give a f*** and was actively trying to sabotage their own franchise.
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But think of the dozens of Canes fans in Charlotte who would like to watch Canes prospects regularly! And the half dozen Canes from around the Carolinas like me who wouldn't mind taking in a game if they can whenever in the Charlotte area! I mean I ultimately don't care either, I took a similar approach when people on HF26 and the Canes interwebs lost their minds about losing Forslund and Kaiton. But from a logistical and competitive standpoint, you can at least argue there's some sort of advantage having an AHL affiliate closer to the NHL squad. Forslund and Kaiton did nothing to help on ice. But all these issues basically all came down to chump change for a guy who bought a business valued at half a billion dollars.
Thrashers back to the NHL to hate again and make me feel weird, Gladiators move up to the AHL and become our AHL affiliate to make me feel even weirder.
Canes would have to throw some money out to help out the existing owners/building so for the same reason they left Charlotte, I doubt it happens.
Facts have never stopped me from being confidently incorrect.
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While I agree that they’ll find another solution, there were quite a few folks, us Charlotte based fans especially, that took them moving the affiliate to Chicago quite hard.
I’ll never understand why neither the Checkers or Canes didn’t make more of an effort at marketing the link between teams when it actually existed.
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Kochetkov battling it out with Askarov tonight.
Wolves up 4-2 after 2.
Tieksola is on fire. A goal and an assist tonight.
Team D is smothering the Admirals, shots are 31-8
Wolves up 4-2 after 2.
Tieksola is on fire. A goal and an assist tonight.
Team D is smothering the Admirals, shots are 31-8
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Honestly, I can see the answer being “yes” when two hard-headed owners start clashing with each other over control.
The most shocking part for me is this relationship lasted 3 seasons.
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Wolves crapped the bed after going up 3. Pono scored to go up 5-2. Admirals scored 3 in almost 4 minutes to tie it.
Pono scored in OT to save the game
Pono scored in OT to save the game
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I had and have been pumping Warsofsky's coaching ability to anyone who would listen. Granted I only have maybe a dozen games watched for the Wolves this season but I just don't see any real structure or goals for the team these days.
Cardiac Jerks
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They were spoiled having Warsofsky in the ahl. Was disappointed we didn’t offer him an asst job seeing as that’s what he ended up taking in San Jose.
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That's a good point. If they were close enough for me to catch some games, I'd like that.
I do get that for the folks in Charlotte, but I was just speaking personally for me, who isn't near Charlotte and never watched a game there. All things considered, I would prefer an AHL affiliate in the Carolinas and preferably close enough to catch a game, but other than that, I don't really care that much where it is.
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Tough night for pyotr? He only had 16 shots against?
Wolves have a much improved opportunity to make that playoffs.
Wolves have a much improved opportunity to make that playoffs.
CanesUltimate11
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Sadly there wasn't bench room for him. Gleason wasn't going anywhere after a near historic PK and Jennings win and for better or worse Jeff Daniels is stapled to Rod's hip. And I doubt he'd have taken a role that wasn't one of the two assistants.
Navin R Slavin
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Charlotte was developmental first and they won a Calder. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Cardiac Jerks
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Build a bigger bench
I’ve long been confused by what Daniels does, exactly. Also have wondered for years who is responsible for the pp. Whoever it is has more job security than a weatherman it would seem.
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As I said earlier, typical Wolves shit. They blindsided the Canes with their decision to end the affiliation
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Well, they knew they didn't have a signed agreement with Chicago going forward so while they may not have seen a no affiliation with any team stance from Chicago, they had to know losing them was an option.
I'm not defending Chicago or saying it's all on our side (I have pretty much always stood up for the guys running our show). But the future was obviously unsettled for whatever reason no matter what. And it's not like we didn't know what Chicago's philosophy is when apparently shifting ours, so friction isn't surprising.
I'm not defending Chicago or saying it's all on our side (I have pretty much always stood up for the guys running our show). But the future was obviously unsettled for whatever reason no matter what. And it's not like we didn't know what Chicago's philosophy is when apparently shifting ours, so friction isn't surprising.
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In fairness, prior to this season, the Canes have had the 5th best PP% in the NHL over a 3 year stretch. I get they struggled in the playoffs, but if Daniels is in charge of the PP, it's kinda hard to fire a guy that has a top 5 PP unit over 3 years, particularly with the ever changing personnel.Build a bigger bench
I’ve long been confused by what Daniels does, exactly. Also have wondered for years who is responsible for the pp. Whoever it is has more job security than a weatherman it would seem.
Even this year, after an abysmal start, the Canes have 6th best PP in the NHL since Black Friday. That's without Patches, losing Svech, adding Ghost, etc...
I have no clue what Daniels does, or how much influence he has on the PP though so have no allegiance to him one way or another.
DaveG
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thing is I doubt for a second we even shifted our philosophy, unless the philosophy changed to "you know what, these guys are developing better in college/Europe anyway".
The 3 drafts that should be making up the core of our AHL team right now:
17: GREAT draft, but of course, the guys that were hits were too good to be current AHLers (Necas, Luostarinen, Geekie) and the misses were either total busts (Martin, De Jong, Rassanen) or had unfortunate circumstances (Mattheos)
18: Drury is doing what he should have been doing for them. We got the #2 pick so he was never still going to be in the A. Sellgren decided he'd prefer to return to Sweden. Only had 6 picks tho.
19: They should have absolutely no complaints about this one. 4 of the top 5 picks of ours are in the A, including Kochetkov. The rest are still in college/Europe for the most part.
In a way I'm kindof hoping that the AHL approaches this the same way they did the Norfolk Admirals trying to go independent years back. "Sure, there's nothing in the bylaws that says you can't, but WE set the schedule and we say you have to be affiliated". So yeah, I call complete BS on the claims that we changed our approach to development. They saw that we won with Charlotte with an exceptionally young AHL team at the time. Said "hey, we want in on that action". We were trending to make the playoffs the next year taking the same approach we did in Charlotte before Covid hit. We were the runaway leaders of that division the next year but there was no playoffs. We won the whole f***ing thing last year taking the same approach. No, they're complaining that we DIDN'T change our approach just because we're affiliated with them which: yeah f*** off.
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No matter what the cause, something something scorpion and frog
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I wonder how much it irritates Gary Bettman, commissioner of one of the largest professional sports leagues on the planet, that he has to take time out of his schedule to think about the Chicago f***ing Wolves
HisIceness
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Tell the Wolves to get the ball rolling on resurrecting the IHL.
bleedgreen
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I think it’s a good thing. Chicago always has their own plan that doesn’t really focus on our guys development and it seemed we landed there in the first place just because things didn’t work out with Charlotte. I think we can find a better solution.
