Speculation: Chicago scouting Colorado (5 straight games, GM in person today)
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I’m sure it’s not. It’s just how pumped we as hawks fans are about him.
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That wouldn’t make much sense at all. That would require substantial other moving parts.
Mittlestadt to Jones adds significant cap and doesn’t solve the 2C hole.
That would require moving either Girard or Manson. That won’t help fixing the 2C spot
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Maybe they swap Mittelstadt+ for Jones with retention, and do a parallel trade involving an extended Rantanen for a 2C, like JT Miller or Petterson.
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Think this is not nearly as major as most make it out to be. Probably a Dickinson or Donato type of move to not have to play a Colorado Eagles fourth line every game.
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KD wouldn’t be in person for multiple games for a minor thing. Atleast he hasn’t done that in the past.
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Avs have had countless chances at Hall and never seemed to be really interested. Cant blame them.
I think it’s Jones. Blackhawks don’t want his entire salary on the books through 2030. The Avs see a minute munching D who can lighten the load on others. It comes down to retention. Jones having a relationship with Sakic from childhood doesn’t hurt.
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Let's use our brains for a bit.
- Chicago are sellers.
- Colorado are buyers.
- Chicago are the ones consistently scouting the Avs and the Eagles.
- Colorado cannot take on excessive cap in any trade.
So, with those facts, we can conclude:
- Chicago are discussing receiving a roster player or two from the Avs, not just a futures based deal.
- Colorado wouldn't be giving up a significant roster piece for a Donato type player, unless it's a package like Donato + Murphy.
Some players I think may interest the Avs from Chicago: Donato, Murphy, Hall, Dickinson, Jones.
Some players I think may interest the Hawks from Colorado: Malinski, Ivan, Olausson, Mittelstadt.
If I had to guess?
Malinski + Ivan + a pick/prospect for Donato + Murphy.
However, it is indeed odd they would send their GM for back-to-back games and other scouts for more Avs games + Eagles(AHL) games. Could suggest something bigger. Mittelstadt + something for Jones with some retention is possible, but Colorado would need to have another trade lined up for a 2C.
- Chicago are sellers.
- Colorado are buyers.
- Chicago are the ones consistently scouting the Avs and the Eagles.
- Colorado cannot take on excessive cap in any trade.
So, with those facts, we can conclude:
- Chicago are discussing receiving a roster player or two from the Avs, not just a futures based deal.
- Colorado wouldn't be giving up a significant roster piece for a Donato type player, unless it's a package like Donato + Murphy.
Some players I think may interest the Avs from Chicago: Donato, Murphy, Hall, Dickinson, Jones.
Some players I think may interest the Hawks from Colorado: Malinski, Ivan, Olausson, Mittelstadt.
If I had to guess?
Malinski + Ivan + a pick/prospect for Donato + Murphy.
However, it is indeed odd they would send their GM for back-to-back games and other scouts for more Avs games + Eagles(AHL) games. Could suggest something bigger. Mittelstadt + something for Jones with some retention is possible, but Colorado would need to have another trade lined up for a 2C.
Why not... I'd say Colorado is as likely a destination as any for him given the family ties and the Avs past interest in him.
It would obviously be a massive trade, but that's also precisely why a GM would spend multiple days watching the team he might be about to make a huge deal with.
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What I'm hearing
—Chicago general manager Kyle Davidson has been present in the press box at the last two Avalanche games. He spent a lot of time chatting with Chris MacFarland during the first intermission Wednesday night. The Blackhawks have also been scouting the Colorado Eagles extensively of late.
None of this means guarantees a deal, but you can be sure the teams have spoken. Keep in mind that Buffalo's assistant general manager was in Denver for a few games before the Casey Mittelstadt-Bo Byram deal went down.
Sources told The Denver Gazette the Avalanche have checked in on Seth Jones, but they're not the only team that has done so. There's no way the Avalanche could take on his full contract, so there would have to be some maneuvering and retention done for something to get finalized there. Either way, a general manager doesn't typically spend that much time looking at a team if it's a standard trade for a rental.
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right, so the pieces coming the hawks way have to fit the timeline of the hawks rebuild...Avs window is open. Thought the Avs found there 2C last year with the Casey deal... If I was the Avs I would be targeting Dickinson, he is a perfect fit for your club.Analyzing the Western Conference playoff contenders | NHL Insider
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What I'm hearing
—Chicago general manager Kyle Davidson has been present in the press box at the last two Avalanche games. He spent a lot of time chatting with Chris MacFarland during the first intermission Wednesday night. The Blackhawks have also been scouting the Colorado Eagles extensively of late.
None of this means guarantees a deal, but you can be sure the teams have spoken. Keep in mind that Buffalo's assistant general manager was in Denver for a few games before the Casey Mittelstadt-Bo Byram deal went down.
Sources told The Denver Gazette the Avalanche have checked in on Seth Jones, but they're not the only team that has done so. There's no way the Avalanche could take on his full contract, so there would have to be some maneuvering and retention done for something to get finalized there. Either way, a general manager doesn't typically spend that much time looking at a team if it's a standard trade for a rental.
Aves are weak in every area so it's hard to know exactly what they are looking for. Most likely Jones with 2 teams retaining.
We know Malinski Colton Ivan are being shopped.
We know Malinski Colton Ivan are being shopped.
What the Aves are looking for and what they're able to get are two different things. But they want Jones to be at a 6 millions cap hit. And it's unlikely a single team would take that much retention.
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Correct. But no way I see another team retaining a million for 5 years
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