Confirmed with Link: Chiarot to Detroit (4x $4.75)

Mister Ed

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Chiarot - Seider
Maatta - Hronek
Edvinsson - Lindstrom

Oesterle, Kampfer, Walman as extras / rotating in.

He's Detroit's highest AAV defense at 4.75M. He's not as bad as everyone is letting on, he'll do great as Seider's partner, where he isn't the main D on the pairing.
 
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newfy

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Oof, that's a bad one for Steve. Really don't see the point in blocking up the left side with one of the worst defenceman in the NHL. The guy is an anchor and should be making league min.

Hes not one of the worst dmen in the NHL lol what are you talking about? Hes a top 4 dman that played as a number one last year. He was playing 21 minutes night in Florida, down from 24 in Montreal and was much better. Hes not a number one dman but he wont be played like one in Detroit either.

Hes a top 4 dman who got paid like one. Its not an amazing contract but its about what you should expect. Hes absolutely not one of the worst dmen in the NHL. And hes a guy who will set the tone and help with changing the culture. No one is gonna be getting close to the goalies with him on the ice
 

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I personally wouldn't have gone this route, but I truly think almost any signing made for four years or less does not hurt us in our cap situation. It's a reliable-ish body to play LHD as we transition the kids onto the roster.

I won't sit here and say I love it, I don't. I can understand it though.
 
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I suppose it depends on what Chiarot you believe you are getting. Florida Chiarot is no good. The Chiarot Florida thought they were getting is probably worth what he just signed.

I'm not going to call this a steal, but I'd like to see it on the ice before I get upset. At a bare minimum it's someone who can answer the bell physically and log bottom pairing minutes. Which is not worth what he's got, but still.
exactly!! He logs minutes can help block shots, PK, clear the zone its for 4 years and guess what at 4.9 for 4 years that’s literally not going to hurt us one bit on the cap. Within 2 years the cap will raise anyways I’m sure. Some people make way to big of a deal on signings. Like what other LD would you want thats on the market that you would want?
 

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I personally wouldn't have gone this route, but I truly think almost any signing made for four years or less does not hurt us in our cap situation. It's a reliable-ish body to play LHD as we transition the kids onto the roster.

I won't sit here and say I love it, I don't. I can understand it though.

Detroit is 2 years away from AlJo being a full timer and 3 to 4 from Wallinder being a full timer. And as we saw at the TDL last season Chiarot can be moved. I'd guess he plays 3 years in Detroit then some time in year 4 he goes bye bye.
 

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Chiarot - Seider
Maatta - Hronek
Edvinsson - Lindstrom

Oesterle, Kampfer, Walman as extras / rotating in.

He's Detroit's highest AAV defense at 4.75M. He's not as bad as everyone is letting on, he'll do great as Seider's partner, where he isn't the main D on the pairing.
In no world is Chiarot anything more than a third pairing guy.
 

Inspiration

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Remember how good Chiarot was in Montreal when they got *checks notes* 40% of the goals when he was on the ice?

It doesn't matter how many goals you give up. Only whether or not you looked tough while doing it.
 

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Remember how good Chiarot was in Montreal when they got *checks notes* 40% of the goals when he was on the ice?

It doesn't matter how many goals you give up. Only whether or not you looked tough while doing it.
He was playing over his head in a top pairing role on a bad team.
 

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He only averaged 17 minutes in the playoffs with Florida and was barely their #4. He also didn't do well in the playoffs. Guys like him tend not to age well, so he's at best going to stay the same or start a slow decline.

Saddling Seider with him would be a big mistake. We'll be trapped in our own end way too often. For this to work, he can't be anymore than a #4 and ideally would only be a bottom pairing D man that eats up PK minutes. He can't be getting top pairing minutes.
 
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Hes not one of the worst dmen in the NHL lol what are you talking about? Hes a top 4 dman that played as a number one last year. He was playing 21 minutes night in Florida, down from 24 in Montreal and was much better. Hes not a number one dman but he wont be played like one in Detroit either.

Hes a top 4 dman who got paid like one. Its not an amazing contract but its about what you should expect. Hes absolutely not one of the worst dmen in the NHL. And hes a guy who will set the tone and help with changing the culture. No one is gonna be getting close to the goalies with him on the ice

He is not. Again, because a player plays top minutes does not mean they're particular apt at the role. He was awful in Montreal and hasn't been good outside of his time in Florida. He has almost always performed worse than his teammates in terms of xG ratio and normal G ratio; meaning his team is constantly outscored and out chanced when he is on the ice. It's great that he'll set the tone, he's consistently one of the most penalized players in the NHL. His propensity to take penalties is also another downside to his game.

He's someone you sign for 1 or 2 years who can act as a bridge. He provides nothing of value over a defenseman like Marc Staal other than you can point to his TOI and say "He played a lot". If you want to change the culture let the coach handle it. Don't give a replacement level player an actual contract for that.
 

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Hes not one of the worst dmen in the NHL lol what are you talking about? Hes a top 4 dman that played as a number one last year. He was playing 21 minutes night in Florida, down from 24 in Montreal and was much better. Hes not a number one dman but he wont be played like one in Detroit either.

Hes a top 4 dman who got paid like one. Its not an amazing contract but its about what you should expect. Hes absolutely not one of the worst dmen in the NHL. And hes a guy who will set the tone and help with changing the culture. No one is gonna be getting close to the goalies with him on the ice

Thank you, my man. This is exactly what I came to say but you saved me the trouble.

This helps the Wings blueline and it's not an albatross term. They are now bigger, tougher, and have more upside than we've seen in a decade.

Chariot isn't a game changer, but this moves the team ever closer to being a team that matters again.
 

newfy

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He is not. Again, because a player plays top minutes does not mean they're particular apt at the role. He was awful in Montreal and hasn't been good outside of his time in Florida. He has almost always down worse than his teammates in terms of xG ratio and normal G ratio. It's great that he'll set the tone, he's consistently one of the most penalized players in the NHL. His propensity to take penalties is also another downside to his game.

He's someone you sign for 1 or 2 years who can act as a bridge. He provides nothing of value over a defenseman like Marc Staal other than you can point to his TOI and say "He played a lot". If you want to change the culture let the coach handle it. Don't give a replacement level player an actual contract for that.
Because a player plays top minutes, theyll look worse than they actually are. In Detroit hes going to be playing either with Seider or second pairing minutes.

It was like how everyone loved Ericsson when he came up, then got stuck on the top pair which he wasnt good enough for and he looked bad. If Chiarot isnt playing number one minutes he'll be fine in the top 4. If he ends up with Seider, it will be the best partner hes had in his career.

You dont get guys like Chiarot on 1 year deals lol thats outrageous
 

jaster

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I’m not sure people realize how unbelievably desperate we are for LD help. Chiarot is a huge upgrade for us (yes, our LDs were that bad). We have the cap room to make this contract perfectly fine.

Additionally, Chiarot's propensity to take penalties will be a good thing.

This team's PK needs more practice :naughty:
 

SirloinUB

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Dont love the contract but like the player. Ultimately we have enough financial flexibility where a small overpay wont hurt us.
 

jaster

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Lol where did those 4 x $5.5M rumors come from? Did someone leak those ugly numbers so $4.75M looks much better?

Chiarot is worth $4M. Maybe 4.25. So an overpayment of $500k isn’t the end of the world.

My guess is something leaked from the negotiation period, and Chiarot was asking for 5.5.
 

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