Confirmed with Link: [CHI/VAN] Gustav Forsling traded for Adam Clendening

[Rotting Corpse*]

Man... I don't know.

Clendenning sounds like a player we need, but so is forsling... And forsling is a pretty like able prospect having a great year. I think in order for this trade to make sense, Clendenning really needs to jump in immediately and sbisa needs to be shot into the sun.

Forsling.... Man...

 

[racerjoe]

I like the trade simply for timing. First trade I will say we didn't pay too much, although I wouldn't say we stole him either. I am excited to see how he fits in and what we do with our extra defenders... well Sbisa. If we can recoup a fifth, I will be happy we seem to do well in that round.

 

[Barney Gumble]

Hard to judge this so soon.
But, as a rule of thumb, I like trades for players from teams with lots of depth. Beng unable to get ice time on Chicago with their depth on defence is a lot more understandable than being let go by a team with poor defensive depth.
That's why, in principle, I liked the Vey trade with LA and this one with Chicago.
We've already seen how even a waiver pick up from Chicago in Stanton could become a useful player.

Yeah, he gets replaced by Sbisa who makes alot more money.

 

[Proto]

You can tell Benning saw a glaring hole in age 22-27 players here. He's trying to make the transition of loosing the Sedins, Hamhuis and Bieksa smoother.

Yes. If people don't want this team to look like the Oilers in a couple years, the team needs layers of young players entering the system. There was a pretty big gap in prospect acquisition before the 2013 draft (about a decade of awful drafting), and this looks like a move to shore that up.

Hell, if Clendening can even be average defensively, he could find a home with Hamhuis next season and on the top PP unit... now.

 

[PRNuck]

Pretty ok trade I guess. Initially didn't like it because, like everyone else, I was all excited about Forsling's shiny WJC performance. But it's good value, getting 3 years of development on a similar prospect.

 

[Zombotron]

You can tell Benning saw a glaring hole in age 22-27 players here. He's trying to make the transition of loosing the Sedins, Hamhuis and Bieksa smoother.

Yes. If people don't want this team to look like the Oilers in a couple years, the team needs layers of young players entering the system. There was a pretty big gap in prospect acquisition before the 2013 draft (about a decade of awful drafting), and this looks like a move to shore that up.

Hell, if Clendening can even be average defensively, he could find a home with Hamhuis next season and on the top PP unit... now.

I've been thinking about this and you're both correct. I've been echoing similar sentiments. Vey, Clendening, Corrado...the reinforcements who never arrived to supplement the Cody Hodgson core.

If JB manages to pry Brett Connolly from Tampa Bay, that's

• Kassian
• Connolly
• Vey
• Clendening
• Corrado

From the same age bracket. Finally.

 

[arsmaster*]

This is a great trade. It's highly unlikely Forsling is as accomplished as Clendening is 3 years from now.

It's a skill set we need NOW for a recent 5th round pick who's value was never going to be higher than having just put together an impressive WJ performance.

Clendening is a poor mans justin Faulk. Not a bad pick up. This is a hockey trade and I like it.

 

[tantalum]

• Kassian
• Connolly
• Vey
• Clendening
• Corrado

From the same age bracket. Finally.

The "problem" with guys like Clendening (I like the deal btw), Vey and I'd say Connolly is that while they provide useful depth in that age bracket it isn't likely that they will form a new formidable core. There are reasons why these get moved. They couldn't crack lineups and no matter what team, young players on cheap deals make lineups if they are good enough. They are depth players like Stanton. Not a bad thing.

Which is why my hope for Clendening is a third pairing/PP specialist type of guy. Nothing wrong with that but also not a build around this guy type of piece.

 

[FroshaugFan2]

Pretty ok trade I guess. Initially didn't like it because, like everyone else, I was all excited about Forsling's shiny WJC performance. But it's good value, getting 3 years of development on a similar prospect.

I was excited about Forsling because since 2006 (the furthest back I can find) the only U19 defensemen with more minutes/ game in the SHL are Larsson and Herman.

 

[Jyrki21]

I'm not quite sure why anyone thinks this will affect the status of Stanton or Sbisa. Desjardins has shown that he rigidly keeps defensemen on their shooting side. Has there been even one instance of a guy playing his off-side this season? Even Vigneault deviated from time to time when he had to.

If Clendening was acquired to play now, I'm not sure I get it. Are you going to get an upgrade over Yannick Weber, who has been decent this year? If for some reason you want to pull Weber out, why wouldn't Sanguinetti have been given a chance (apart from the fact that it would decimate Utica's blueline further)? Is Clendening an upgrade on Sanguinetti right now? I would say almost certainly not.

I don't mind the trade given the odds with respect to Forsling (it being Chicago, though, Forsling is now basically guaranteed to be awesome), but let's temper expectations a little bit here. Clendening has put up some nice AHL numbers, but if his defense is at all suspect, the coaches and fans alike will devour him. We saw it with Marc-André Gragnani and hey, look at that, Yannick Weber, who is even the same height. Guys who also put up big numbers in the AHL and have not been given much of a shot due to their defense (even on the power play for some reason). Sanguinetti has to be thrown in there by default, as long as he hasn't been given a chance, though it's not clear to me that his defense has ever actually been an issue.

Is there reason to believe the situation will be that different with Clendening, apart from a conscious effort to make Benning's acquisitions look good?

 

[racerjoe]

I'm not quite sure why anyone thinks this will affect the status of Stanton or Sbisa. Desjardins has shown that he rigidly keeps defensemen on their shooting side. Has there been even one instance of a guy playing his off-side this season? Even Vigneault deviated from time to time when he had to.

If Clendening was acquired to play now, I'm not sure I get it. Are you going to get an upgrade over Yannick Weber, who has been decent this year? If for some reason you want to pull Weber out, why wouldn't Sanguinetti have been given a chance (apart from the fact that it would decimate Utica's blueline further)? Is Clendening an upgrade on Sanguinetti right now? I would say almost certainly not.

I don't mind the trade given the odds with respect to Forsling (it being Chicago, though, Forsling is now basically guaranteed to be awesome), but let's temper expectations a little bit here. Clendening has put up some nice AHL numbers, but if his defense is at all suspect, the coaches and fans alike will devour him. We saw it with Marc-André Gragnani and hey, look at that, Yannick Weber, who is even the same height. Guys who also put up big numbers in the AHL and have not been given much of a shot due to their defense (even on the power play for some reason). Sanguinetti has to be thrown in there by default, as long as he hasn't been given a chance, though it's not clear to me that his defense has ever actually been an issue.

Is there reason to believe the situation will be that different with Clendening, apart from a conscious effort to make Benning's acquisitions look good?

People think Stanton Sbisa will be moved because we will now have three NHL guys sitting a game. Someone has to move by the deadline, and by the sounds of it, by the time Richardson comes back from the IR as rumour has it they were going to put him on Retro actively.

 

[PRNuck]

This is a great trade. It's highly unlikely Forsling is as accomplished as Clendening is 3 years from now.

It's a skill set we need NOW for a recent 5th round pick who's value was never going to be higher than having just put together an impressive WJ performance.

Clendening is a poor mans justin Faulk. Not a bad pick up. This is a hockey trade and I like it.

I read this in Perd Hapley's voice.

edit: Aww, video didn't work

 

[Reign Nateo]

I'm not quite sure why anyone thinks this will affect the status of Stanton or Sbisa. Desjardins has shown that he rigidly keeps defensemen on their shooting side. Has there been even one instance of a guy playing his off-side this season? Even Vigneault deviated from time to time when he had to.

If Clendening was acquired to play now, I'm not sure I get it. Are you going to get an upgrade over Yannick Weber, who has been decent this year? If for some reason you want to pull Weber out, why wouldn't Sanguinetti have been given a chance (apart from the fact that it would decimate Utica's blueline further)? Is Clendening an upgrade on Sanguinetti right now? I would say almost certainly not.

I don't mind the trade given the odds with respect to Forsling (it being Chicago, though, Forsling is now basically guaranteed to be awesome), but let's temper expectations a little bit here. Clendening has put up some nice AHL numbers, but if his defense is at all suspect, the coaches and fans alike will devour him. We saw it with Marc-André Gragnani and hey, look at that, Yannick Weber, who is even the same height. Guys who also put up big numbers in the AHL and have not been given much of a shot due to their defense (even on the power play for some reason). Sanguinetti has to be thrown in there by default, as long as he hasn't been given a chance, though it's not clear to me that his defense has ever actually been an issue.

Is there reason to believe the situation will be that different with Clendening, apart from a conscious effort to make Benning's acquisitions look good?

Temper expectations? People are comparing him to M-A Gragnani and Andy Delmore!

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Just searched and HF had Clendening ranked as the Hawks fourth top prospect in the fall of 2014:

4. Adam Clendening, D, 7.0C
Drafted 2nd round, 36th overall, 2011

Now with two consecutive AHL All-Star worthy seasons under his belt, Adam Clendening remains Chicago’s most intriguing offensive defenseman in the prospect pool. He is not shy about playing the body but is still developing his defensive zone play. While the 21-year-old may not be as well-rounded a defensive prospect as Johns, Clendening’s offensive instincts and power-play ability will make him a candidate for a call-up in Chicago should the NHL-level depth take a hit.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

This trade produces the typical response:

Want other team's decent players/prospects but don't want to give any real value up.

Forsling was progressing very well but is atleast a few years away.

Clendening is a 22 yr old, RH, PPQB who can play the transition game we want and do so now.

It's not like we traded for someone in their late 20's/early 30's.

Shows Benning is being creative and thinking outside the box to help this team both now and in the future.

 

[Karl Hungus]

I like the deal. The team desperately needs a right handed PMD right now. A minimal investment in Clendening could do a lot to help out the Sedins, PP, etc.

I watched Forsling a little at the WJC and the way he moves around the ice and handles the puck reminds me of Bad Bieksa. He seemed causal and like his effort topped out at 80%. I doubt his prowess at manning the point in the offensive zone is enough for him to become an NHL regular.

 

[Jyrki21]

Temper expectations? People are comparing him to M-A Gragnani and Andy Delmore!

He's being pencilled in to play now. I'm not saying that Desjardins definitely won't do this, I'm just not seeing how that would be a good or applauded move when he seems to be comparable to other offensive defensemen that this fanbase and organization have scorned. To wit:

I like the deal. The team desperately needs a right handed PMD right now.

Clendening is a 22 yr old, RH, PPQB who can play the transition game we want and do so now.

It's a skill set we need NOW for a recent 5th round pick who's value was never going to be higher than having just put together an impressive WJ performance.

How can he be expected to contribute more than Weber or Sanguinetti at this stage? Particularly if his deficiencies are similar?

 

[VC]

Guessing that it will be Weber as the one that gets moved in a similar deal to Diaz last year and replaces the draft pick.

 

[Reign Nateo]

He's being pencilled in to play now. I'm not saying that Desjardins definitely won't do this, I'm just not seeing how that would be a good or applauded move when he seems to be comparable to other offensive defensemen that this fanbase and organization have scorned.

He will play almost immediatley and seems like more people dislike this trade rather than applauded so far. Which I think will change after Clendening gets 10-15 games under his belt.

 

[Siludin]

I wonder if the Canucks are planning to use their first-rounder this year on a defenseman.

 

[opendoor]

I wonder what this means for the right side going forward. There isn't going to be room for all of Tanev, Bieksa, Clendening, and Corrado.

 

[Barney Gumble]

I wonder what this means for the right side going forward. There isn't going to be room for all of Tanev, Bieksa, Clendening, and Corrado.

Well two of those guys have combined less than 30 games of NHL experience between them right now so I wouldn't expect anybody to be moved before the end of the season.

 

[OHLFan90]

Good trade IMO.
http://overtimesportsnation.com/canucks-acquire-clendening-from-chicago/

 

[Proto]

I wonder what this means for the right side going forward. There isn't going to be room for all of Tanev, Bieksa, Clendening, and Corrado.

I've been watercooling the same thing this morning. My guess is they'll move Bieksa if they can.

Corrado has played the left side in the past, has he not? That might be something that's looked at. Tanev/Corrado/Clendening isn't a bad looking young right side going forward though (potentially).

 

[Diamonddog01]

Your definition quite literally makes no sense. Basically we could trade any of our prospects who haven't regressed yet and it would be "selling high" according to you.

Uh no...it's not 'haven't regressed yet' it's experiencing a meteoric rise in value. Which is exactly what happened due to his WJC performance.

You're McDavid analogy is flawed as he did not experience a meteoric rise in value this season. He's been viewed as having extremely high value for some time now.