My comments which are usually negative regardless have nothing to do with Stramel as a player. It just irritates me that they could have likely got him in the 2nd with a little jockeying. Maybe I’m wrong
Prospect Info: Charlie Stramel, C, 21st Overall, 2023 NHL Draft
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MuckOG
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Maybe, but there are many unknowns there. You need to find the right trade partner who holds the pick where you think he would still be available.....and that team has to want to trade up....and you also aren't sure where other teams have him on their draft board.
Heidt was seen as a projected 1st round pick and fell to the last pick of the 2nd round. Every draft board is different. Most of us base what a good pick or a bad pick is based on limited viewings and "trusted" journalist lists from Bob McKenzie, Corey Pronman and Scott Wheeler.
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This pick feels just like a Doug Risebrough type pick, or one of Fletcher's safe picks.
Take a guy because of his size when there is clearly highly skilled players sitting there as well.
We're where we are today because of the consistent choice of not looking for skill often enough. We can't afford to forego skill in the 1st round.
Take a guy because of his size when there is clearly highly skilled players sitting there as well.
We're where we are today because of the consistent choice of not looking for skill often enough. We can't afford to forego skill in the 1st round.
If Stramel becomes more assertive and plays well with our system, you will love this pick in due time. You need centers with size to win in the playoffs.
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Going to start off hoping that we a) solve the #1C issue another way, and b) he turns into an overqualified #3C behind Eriksson Ek, and eventually takes over #2C when JEE hits his 30's.
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Another C that projects to be a more defensive minded C in Otto Stenberg went like 3 picks later to St. Louis, but is only 5'11". Good chance if that was what St. Louis was in the market for, they'd take the extra 4 inches.
You need centers with size and skill and know how to use both.
Not saying he's going to be Marc Chouinard, but his profile "reads" similar. From what I've seen, there's reason it does.
That's just not the type that should be sought after in round 1, when there is clear hard to find skill available. That's just the MO of this team on draft day since it's inception for the most part though. I just thought we'd started to change, but I guess not.
All that said, I'm rooting for him now... hopefully he becomes much more than most think he will!
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To be fair, they hammered High end skilled forwards last year with the first 5 picks (4 in the first two rounds). And have some good high end skill at Wing currently on the team, and in the system (espiecially if Rossi can't cut it at C). Also pretty set at D.
I think they ranked their Centers, and are just going down the list.
You can never draft enough skill. You can't teach it. Not all will hit, if you get a "surplus' you can trade it.
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Just so I'm understanding correctly, if the highest skilled player on the board when we drafted was a defensemen, you would have preferred taking the defensemen because they had the most skill?
Stramel was projected to be a top 10 pick to start this past year. I'm not going to let one year under a bad coach completely form my opinion. Remember, this coach made a player like K'Andre Miller look like a pressbox guy at the NCAA level.
The only guy I see with more skill was Stenberg, and I wouldn't doubt that he projects more as a winger at the NHL level. Stramel is in the same boat as guys like Ritchie and Edstrom. Those were the next two centers taken and most probably would not have been upset with them.
I have a sour view on Stramel and that's mostly to do with my sour view on badger hockey. It wouldn't surprise me if Stramel followed the Holloway path (.5ppg to ppg+).
That wasn't the case here and I'm talking about what happened last night.
It's not near as simple as your analogy.
Perreault was the pick to be had at 21.
Minnewildsota
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But then there would be the complaint that the team never takes centers. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Minnewildsota
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And people complained about it.
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The consensus rankings (McKenzie) had Boldy at 11 in 2019. Maybe someone complained, but that is how you draft, not reaching for a guy because of his shoe size.
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Not sure that Caufield was considered a "way higher skilled" prospect than Boldy. Caufield was more of a pure goal-scorer, but Boldy was thought of as a high-end skilled player coming into the draft.
Caufield is 100% the more skilled player. Boldy fits the NHL mold better with his size.
I'm not saying we made the wrong pick in Boldy. Caufield just needs to be that much more skilled to make up for his lack in size.
I'm not going to say that Stramel was the wrong pick over Perreault or vice versa. We just had a different need. I think our three picks really rammed home what that need is.
It will be easy to cheer for Stramel although I wish he’d transfer. Come to UMD and get that sconny stink off you son.
This board was pretty damned happy about the Boldy pick... very few were complaining. I was rejoicing... that was such a no-brainer pick it was crazy!
