Player Discussion Charlie Coyle

Prediction: Charlie Coyle as the #1 center (#1 center meaning he gets to play with either 63 or 88)

  • He will thrive as the 1c.

    Votes: 5 3.9%
  • He will be a serviceable #1c.

    Votes: 23 17.8%
  • He's terrible (big minus player) but they keep him there because they don't have better options.

    Votes: 8 6.2%
  • He will be the 2c and not get to play with 63 or 88.

    Votes: 46 35.7%
  • He will be the 3c by Xmas if not sooner. Charlie Coyle is not a top6 C.

    Votes: 53 41.1%

  • Total voters
    129
  • Poll closed .

mjhfb

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5 Questions.
1) How much will online ticket prices go up?
2) Will fans be able to watch games on TV without juggling 3 different streaming services costing $200/month?
3) Will it be possible to buy overpriced food or drink at the game without an annoying tip screen shoved in your face?
4) Will the ice be as bad as last year?
5) Who will be the first player in the doghouse?
 

McGarnagle

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5 Questions.
1) How much will online ticket prices go up?
2) Will fans be able to watch games on TV without juggling 3 different streaming services costing $200/month?
3) Will it be possible to buy overpriced food or drink at the game without an annoying tip screen shoved in your face?
4) Will the ice be as bad as last year?
5) Who will be the first player in the doghouse?
1. 8%
2. No
3. Of course not
4. 100% yes
5. Peeke
 
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Kegs

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5 Questions.
1) How much will online ticket prices go up?
2) Will fans be able to watch games on TV without juggling 3 different streaming services costing $200/month?
3) Will it be possible to buy overpriced food or drink at the game without an annoying tip screen shoved in your face?
4) Will the ice be as bad as last year?
5) Who will be the first player in the doghouse?
1. 5%?
2. Yes from illegal streaming sites
3. No of course not.
4. I’ve never skated on that ice.
5. Peeke is already in the dog house.
 
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PlayMakers

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5 Questions.
1) How much will online ticket prices go up?
2) Will fans be able to watch games on TV without juggling 3 different streaming services costing $200/month?
3) Will it be possible to buy overpriced food or drink at the game without an annoying tip screen shoved in your face?
4) Will the ice be as bad as last year?
5) Who will be the first player in the doghouse?

1) 0%
2) No
3) No
4) Yes
5) Anyone at the bottom of the lineup or in a secondary role making more than league minimum.
 

Hookslide

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Isn't there already a Peeke thread this can go in?

Looking forward to seeing what the Coyle line shakes out to be.
Seeing what the Coyle line might look out could be put on hold while we see what is going on with Marchand, that is a concern for me, three offseason surgeries in one year after one recently have hip surgery for a 36 year old concerns me quite a bit, what says you.
 

Dr Hook

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So after all is said and done, which of the Coyle predictions in the poll came closet to right? Was he serviceable as a number 1 or did he thrive? Somewhere in between? Was he even a number 1, or really more of a 2 (even that many said he would not be able to handle)?
 

PB37

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So after all is said and done, which of the Coyle predictions in the poll came closet to right? Was he serviceable as a number 1 or did he thrive? Somewhere in between? Was he even a number 1, or really more of a 2 (even that many said he would not be able to handle)?

He was great during most of the regular season and had a career year. But he wasn't the same in the playoffs - thought the other centers he matched up against got the better of him.
 
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PlayMakers

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So after all is said and done, which of the Coyle predictions in the poll came closet to right? Was he serviceable as a number 1 or did he thrive? Somewhere in between? Was he even a number 1, or really more of a 2 (even that many said he would not be able to handle)?
I'd say he thrived.

He put up 60 points with one top6 winger, intermittent power play time and 63% DZone starts against top lines. That's a heckuva season for a top6 center.
 

Hookslide

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I'd say he thrived.

He put up 60 points with one top6 winger, intermittent power play time and 63% DZone starts against top lines. That's a heckuva season for a top6 center.
Congrats, you watch the games and appreciate a good hockey player.
 

Dr Hook

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I'd say he thrived.

He put up 60 points with one top6 winger, intermittent power play time and 63% DZone starts against top lines. That's a heckuva season for a top6 center.

I picked him as a serviceable and I would say he was that at minimum. I don't understand a lot of the hate he gets around here. I guess it was his initial Bruins contract when he was behind Krejci and Bergeron. It looks like good value now. He is a really good plater and is one of my favorite Bs.
 
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I picked him as a serviceable and I would say he was that at minimum. I don't understand a lot of the hate he gets around here. I guess it was his initial Bruins contract when he was behind Krejci and Bergeron. It looks like good value now. He is a really good plater and is one of my favorite Bs.

There's two things I noticed that automatically trigger hate from some posters (and they aren't that great at hiding it):

  1. Players from Europe (especially goalies).
  2. Players that are local.
 

BiteThisBurrows

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I'm getting worried about Charlie, 4 games in and he has not played well at all.

I hope it isn't the case like the season before last when he played the entire season with an injury & that he's just not in synch with #63 & the Geek.
I agree, he has looked bad. The whole line is bad, but he is not on his game. Now I'm not super worried as he has had stretches like that in other seasons but at the moment he's just bad. He played some very good hockey in the playoffs and maybe as a vet is just having a hard time taking this regular season as serious as he maybe should but whether it's that or injury or whatever he's not good.

He's really best as a 3C, we know that, and Geekie is also 3rd line at best and maybe Marchand at his age is now really no longer a top 6 guy every night. Still great on the PK, but he's definitely not what he was (so far). This line is a problem no question about it.
 
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goldenblack

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I've often had his back. But right now that's hard to do. You almost hope he's playing hurt.
 

PlayMakers

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I don't think Coyle's been awful. He can be better, for sure but I think the real problem is that his line has been awful and is overmatched.

Last year you had a point per game Marchand on one wing and DeBrusk on the other. That line could play against 1st lines and still produce points.

This year, Marchand can't stop giving the puck away. The RW has been different every other game and none of them have had 2nd line talent. And they are still being put out against top lines.

Again, Coyle can be better, but he doesn't strike me as the worst player out there. Marchand's giveaways, Geekie has been a black hole, Brazeau helped in the Ozone but hurt them in the Dzone and Nzone.

So they've got nothing going offensively, and then are being hammered defensively by the other team's best players. They're spending all their time defending.
 
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KillerMillerTime

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I don't think Coyle's been awful. He can be better, for sure but I think the real problem is that his line has been awful and is overmatched.

Last year you had a point per game Marchand on one wing and DeBrusk on the other. That line could play against 1st lines and still produce points.

This year, Marchand can't stop giving the puck away. The RW has been different every other game and none of them have had 2nd line talent. And they are still being put out against top lines.

Again, Coyle can be better, but he doesn't strike me as the worst player out there. Marchand's giveaways, Geekie has been a black hole, Brazeau helped in the Ozone but hurt them in the Dzone and Nzone.

So they've got nothing going offensively, and then are being hammered defensively by the other team's best players. They're spending all their time defending.
Thru 10 games he has been an absolute disaster, as has Frederic and Geekie which obviously magnifies how bad he has been.
 

PlayMakers

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Thru 10 games he has been an absolute disaster, as has Frederic and Geekie which obviously magnifies how bad he has been.
I see a guy who’s still giving an effort. He made a diving poke check to get the puck out of the Dzone yesterday. I don’t see that kind of effort from the other vets.

He’s never been a guy who can carry a 2nd line. He can play there if he plays with talent. This year, with Marchand’s slow start, and no RW, he doesn’t have the talent to be an effective 2nd line or an effective checking line yet, he has to go out there every night and play against top lines.
 

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I don't think Coyle's been awful. He can be better, for sure but I think the real problem is that his line has been awful and is overmatched.

Last year you had a point per game Marchand on one wing and DeBrusk on the other. That line could play against 1st lines and still produce points.

This year, Marchand can't stop giving the puck away. The RW has been different every other game and none of them have had 2nd line talent. And they are still being put out against top lines.

Again, Coyle can be better, but he doesn't strike me as the worst player out there. Marchand's giveaways, Geekie has been a black hole, Brazeau helped in the Ozone but hurt them in the Dzone and Nzone.

So they've got nothing going offensively, and then are being hammered defensively by the other team's best players. They're spending all their time defending.
This is the best post I've read on this forum in quite sometime. I agree 100%.
 
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