Player Discussion Charlie Coyle

[PlayMakers]

Will he succeed or fail as the #1c?

What do you project his point totals to be, and why?

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[NDiesel]

12 points in 15 games...pretty solid numbers for a top 6 C, and he's doing it with minimal PP time.

 

[PB37]

Both he and Zacha are on pace for 65 points, which is a good clip for a top 6 center. Those would be career highs for each, so hopefully they can sustain their production and over all play for the rest of the year ( and beyond ). I don't think the Bruins would have to go shopping for a top 6 center if these two ( and Poitras ) continue to play like they have. I think the play would be to shop for a top 6 winger after JVR prices himself out next year.

 

[Blowfish]

12 points in 15 games...pretty solid numbers for a top 6 C, and he's doing it with minimal PP time.

Bergeron had 14 points after 15 games
Krejci had 12 points after 15 games

 

[PlayMakers]

Wish he'd get more PP time. I feel like the PP works better with him on it.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Wish he'd get more PP time. I feel like the PP works better with him on it.

yep, had that nice bumper goal the other day

 

[BruinsBlitz]

Bergeron had 14 points after 15 games
Krejci had 12 points after 15 games

From my viewpoint at 47 years old: The veterans always play hard, but in playoffs, it's the younger players who excel. They recover faster and have that extra gear that the veterans are already relying on, especially when they're not out socializing and chasing the ladies!

 

[PlayMakers]

yep, had that nice bumper goal the other day

And set the screen on Lindholm’s goal.

 

[PlayMakers]

From my viewpoint at 47 years old: The veterans always play hard, but in playoffs, it's the younger players who excel. They recover faster and have that extra gear that the veterans are already relying on, especially when they're not out socializing and chasing the ladies!

Careful Mike Milbury.

 

[Kazcram]

anyone still think hes overpaid and want to trade him?

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

anyone still think hes overpaid and want to trade him?

the people who do won't say shit until he hits a slump and then they'll be the first to say they knew all along that he's not a real top 2 center.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

the people who do won't say shit until he hits a slump and then they'll be the first to say they knew all along that he's not a real top 2 center.

I'm a Coyle fan, but I've always said that he's never proven himself as a legit top 6 center. Had a chance two years ago and couldn't make it stick. This season he's had a very strong start and he's putting up some really solid points. But the underlying numbers 5v5 still aren't all that flash (46% CF, 51% SF, 48% xGF, +1 GF) and his playmaking still has its limitations. Those numbers won't matter much though as long as he and his line continue to produce.

He's playing well, no real complaints, but can he effectively anchor a top line through the grind of the season and, most importantly, in the playoffs? Think for me the jury's still out on that. It's possible, but we'll see.

 

[DKH]

12 points in 15 games...pretty solid numbers for a top 6 C, and he's doing it with minimal PP time.

I think he’s local as well

I would like to see the 7th player Award renamed the Charlie Coyle Award

Great deal and signing by Donny

 

[DKH]

He’s legit top 6 player- his PK alone is incredible

He’s also meshing with 63 & 37

He’s handling the increased responsibility with A grade

 

[NDiesel]

He’s legit top 6 player- his PK alone is incredible

He’s also meshing with 63 & 37

He’s handling the increased responsibility with A grade

Anazing thing is that his numbers ar skewed because he's one of few Top 6Cs who gets minimal PP time. I would imagine he'd flirt with 70 points if he was a fixture on PP1. Doing an amazing job in his role at 5 on 5

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Anazing thing is that his numbers ar skewed because he's one of few Top 6Cs who gets minimal PP time. I would imagine he'd flirt with 70 points if he was a fixture on PP1. Doing an amazing job in his role at 5 on 5

To bad he can't win face-offs , top 6 players especially centers usually do. He starts doing that then I would say he is a top 6

But we need a number one center badly and have Coyle where he belongs. Come playoff time losing face-offs constantly especially in the D zone will prove to be a reason for an early exit. Beecher is there best face off option in my view

 

[RoccoF14]

To bad he can't win face-offs , top 6 players especially centers usually do. He starts doing that then I would say he is a top 6

But we need a number one center badly and have Coyle where he belongs. Come playoff time losing face-offs constantly especially in the D zone will prove to be a reason for an early exit. Beecher is there best face off option in my view

He's 15th in the NHL in Faceoff wins and is at 51% win percentage. The difference between him and Bergeron is basically 1 more faceoff win per game.

Not elite, but not chopped liver, either. I think people are a little spoiled after having Bergeron for all these years.

 

[False Start]

He's 15th in the NHL in Faceoff wins and is at 51% win percentage. The difference between him and Bergeron is basically 1 more faceoff win per game.

Not elite, but not chopped liver, either. I think people are a little spoiled after having Bergeron for all these years.

Yeah I mean last year he was 52% all other years below 50%.

I'm not going to cry over this years 51%

 

[Yeti34]

He's 15th in the NHL in Faceoff wins and is at 51% win percentage. The difference between him and Bergeron is basically 1 more faceoff win per game.

Not elite, but not chopped liver, either. I think people are a little spoiled after having Bergeron for all these years.

He’s 88th in face off win percentage. Especially against better teams he struggles in the dot.

 

[RoccoF14]

He’s 88th in face off win percentage. Especially against better teams he struggles in the dot.

So if I take a total of 2 faceoffs and win them both, does that make me better than Charlie Coyle?

 

[Yeti34]

So if I take a total of 2 faceoffs and win them both, does that make me better than Charlie Coyle?

It’s a less flawed metric than saying ur two wins is worse than Coyles 300 wins even though he took 700 face offs.

 

[RoccoF14]

Yeah I mean last year he was 52% all other years below 50%.

I'm not going to cry over this years 51%

Agreed. He's taking also taking tougher draws this year than last year......and he's holding his own.

Like I said before, statistically, the difference between him and Bergeron is about 1 faceoff win per game.

 

[4ORRBRUIN]

Agreed. He's taking also taking tougher draws this year than last year......and he's holding his own.

Like I said before, statistically, the difference between him and Bergeron is about 1 faceoff win per game.

The difference is when you win them, I have zero confidence in Coyle in crunch time

 

[loosemoose]

I'm not hugely concerned of his face-off ability, although it may play a small part why he's consistently getting pounded in matchups against other actual top-6 caliber centers.

 

[GordonHowe]

I'm a Coyle fan, but I've always said that he's never proven himself as a legit top 6 center. Had a chance two years ago and couldn't make it stick. This season he's had a very strong start and he's putting up some really solid points. But the underlying numbers 5v5 still aren't all that flash (46% CF, 51% SF, 48% xGF, +1 GF) and his playmaking still has its limitations. Those numbers won't matter much though as long as he and his line continue to produce.

He's playing well, no real complaints, but can he effectively anchor a top line through the grind of the season and, most importantly, in the playoffs? Think for me the jury's still out on that. It's possible, but we'll see.

I can't find them all on YouTube, but some of Coyle's recent goals surprised me in that they were pinpoint accurate (one just below the crossbar). They were "goal scorer's goals." Like, elite. I never thought he had those kind of hands.

In the event, it's great to see Charlie having success and proving some (including me) wrong about his ability to play in the top six. First and foremost, Coyle is a responsible, 200 ft. pivot. His faceoff success has been notable, as mentioned by others above. He's big, strong, and a puck possession monster. He wears opponents' D (and forwards) down.

Congratulations, Charlie. Keep it up.

 

[Aussie Bruin]

He’s legit top 6 player- his PK alone is incredible

He’s also meshing with 63 & 37

He’s handling the increased responsibility with A grade

37? I wish!