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Chara tries to fight Getzlaf (Mod warning page bazillion)

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BruinLVGA said:
Yeah, that's the direction the whole league is moving on. Hence, seems the intelligent thing to do.
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I didn't say it was a bad thing, was responding to the guy saying they were tougher than Anaheim, when in reality that isn't really the case outside of chara.
 
Sojourn said:
Would you prefer "most" people believe you're wrong?

The hit was fine. Good solid shoulder to shoulder hit.
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If "most people" = Ducks fans, sure. They also are peddling that "Getzlaf wanted to fight but was held back by the ref". That says a lot.

Moving goalposts uh? :D
I am talking about that hit being late, not where it was delivered.
 
Sheppy said:
I think if someone comes out and issues a challenge for his cheap shot on Johansson, absolutely. He's better off getting it out of the way instead of refusing and having someone else do it for him.
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I imagine hes going to go fight vatanen.
 
BruinLVGA said:
If "most people" = Ducks fans, sure. They also are peddling that "Getzlaf wanted to fight but was held back by the ref". That says a lot.

Moving goalposts uh? :D
I am talking about that hit being late, not where it was delivered.
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Man, you just can't be bothered to read things that you don't agree with, do you?

Try reading the thread. Most people are fine with the hit. Not most Ducks fans. Most fans, who aren't Bruin fans. The hit was fine. Get over it.
 
Sheppy said:
If he's challenged by someone smaller than him next Sunday for the hit on Johansson he should answer the bell regardless of who it is. If it's Dalton Prout, sure. If it's Brian Boyle, sure. If it's someone smaller than 5'9'', 180, sure.

I don't know what you're trying to say here.
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So Getzlaf should only fight bigger players than himself, but Marchand is cool to fight anyone. Got it. No double standard here.
 
Backpack said:
So Getzlaf should only fight bigger players than himself, but Marchand is cool to fight anyone. Got it. No double standard here.
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That's absolutely not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that if someone challenges Marchand bigger, or smaller on Sunday he should fight. What's so hard to understand about that? Where on earth did i say Getzlaf should only fight bigger players?

Are you drunk? I'm actually curious because i never once said any of that.
 
If someone challenges Marchand he absolutely should not fight. Not unless it serves a purpose for Boston.

When did people forget that the goal is to win hockey games?
 
Getzlaf IRL amirite

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Sojourn said:
Man, you just can't be bothered to read things that you don't agree with, do you?

Try reading the thread. Most people are fine with the hit. Not most Ducks fans. Most fans, who aren't Bruin fans. The hit was fine. Get over it.
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LOL, says the guy who just tried to push the discussion towards where the hit was delivered, instead of addressing what I wrote (= that the hit was late). Heed your own advice.
 
Sojourn said:
If someone challenges Marchand he absolutely should not fight. Not unless it serves a purpose for Boston.

When did people forget that the goal is to win hockey games?
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If Kesler cheapshotted Bergeron on Tuesday night, and the Bruins played the Ducks on Sunday, and McQuaid or Miller went out to challenge him, he should man up and drop the gloves. Maybe i see the game a little differently.
 
Sheppy said:
That's absolutely not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that if someone challenges Marchand bigger, or smaller on Sunday he should fight. What's so hard to understand about that? Where on earth did i say Getzlaf should only fight bigger players?

Are you drunk? I'm actually curious because i never once said any of that.
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Dude are you serious? You posted an entire list of the fights in which Getz had a size advantage. So which is it? Should players be able to fight anyone regardless of size or are they spot-pickers if they do that? Pick one position and stop flip-flopping.
 
BruinLVGA said:
LOL, says the guy who just tried to push the discussion towards where the hit was delivered, instead of addressing what I wrote (= that the hit was late). Heed your own advice.
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I didn't try to push the discussion anywhere. I called it a good hit. That includes the lateness. That's the nice thing about words. If you use the correct ones, you can cover everything you want.

It was a good hit. I'm glad Backes is okay, but Ritchie did nothing wrong.
 
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Sheppy said:
If Kesler cheapshotted Bergeron on Tuesday night, and the Bruins played the Ducks on Sunday, and McQuaid or Miller went out to challenge him, he should man up and drop the gloves. Maybe i see the game a little differently.
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Kesler would likely let them take penalties chasing him to try to engage him, and then likely beat up krug later.

Cause kesler is bout that thuglife
 
Backpack said:
Dude are you serious? You posted an entire list of the fights in which Getz had a size advantage. So which is it? Should players be able to fight anyone regardless of size or are they spot-pickers if they do that? Pick one position and stop flip-flopping.
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If you read, it was in response to a poster who said "You act like Getzlaf always fights smaller guys" - I posted his fight card explaining that in 25-28 of his last fights he was significantly bigger than his opponent. That isn't me saying "GETZLAF NEEDS TO FIGHT BYFUGLIEN, OLEKSIAK, LUCIC ETC" - It was me pointing out the FACT, that he's often times bigger than his opponent. The same thing people were saying about Zdeno, got it?

Again, never said that Getzlaf was a spot picker either. I legitimately don't know where you're getting your information from. I have said time and time again that Chara is out of his league in the fight game. If i'm wrong in saying that, please, please correct me.

Jesus Christ.
 
Sheppy said:
If Kesler cheapshotted Bergeron on Tuesday night, and the Bruins played the Ducks on Sunday, and McQuaid or Miller went out to challenge him, he should man up and drop the gloves. Maybe i see the game a little differently.
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That seems to be the case.

I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree with it. Kesler's job is to play hockey, first and foremost. His job is to be the best player he can for the Ducks. That includes staying on the ice, and most importantly staying healthy. I'm not keen on seeing one of the team's top six centers having a broken hand entering the playoffs.

Edit: I should also note that I won't pretend that if the situation were reversed, that I wouldn't want to see one of my own guys challenge, say, Bergeron(I feel weird saying this, because he's not that kind of player). Marchand is better. Let's say he had a dirty hit on Rakell. I'd absolutely expect a guy on the team to challenge him. I just don't think he's obligated to answer the call. Boston is a better team with him playing, and not sitting in the box.
 
Sojourn said:
I didn't try to push the discussion anywhere. I called it a good hit. That includes the lateness. That's the nice thing about words. If you use the correct ones, you can cover everything you want.

It was a good hit. I'm glad Backes is okay, but Ritchie did nothing wrong.
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So, you were trying to "include everything", uh? Ahahahah

Question: what was the point of you mentioning that it was shoulder to shoulder in response to me mentioning that it was late? It doesn't address the latter, has nothing to do with the latter, what was the purpose of that statement, if not to deflect away from what I said and bring it to a more suitable place for your argument?
 
Sojourn said:
That seems to be the case.

I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree with it. Kesler's job is to play hockey, first and foremost. His job is to be the best player he can for the Ducks. That includes staying on the ice, and most importantly staying healthy. I'm not keen on seeing one of the team's top six centers having a broken hand entering the playoffs.
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But if he takes a player out in a dirty way causing a significant injury to a concussion prone player he shouldn't have to answer the bell? Is Kesler playing hockey if he goes out of his way to elbow someone in the brain, knocking them out for an extended period of time?

I get you, i understand that there are risks to fighting in this game. That said, it looks pretty shitty on said player for not manning up.

I remember last year (I think last year) Krug stepped into Shaw with a borderline hit knocking him out of the game. Later that game Gallagher challenged him, he fought. The next game they played Shaw challenged him, they fought. Hell, Cooke fought Thornton (a top tier fighter) after he mangled Savard. It's something a player SHOULD do if he steps over the line.

Crap, we're kind of off topic in a big way now.
 
BruinLVGA said:
So, you were trying to "include everything", uh? Ahahahah
Question: what was the point of you mentioning that it was shoulder to shoulder in response to me mentioning that it was late? It doesn't address the latter, has nothing to do with the latter, what was the purpose of that statement, if not to deflect away from what I said and bring it to a more suitable place for your argument?
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You're right, I should have left it at "It was a good hit." but I've said that repeatedly, and all you've responded with "It was late." or you'd "fix" my post in your oh-so-clever way.

The purpose of the statement was really just to remind you it was a good hit, and maybe it's time you dry your eyes and stop crying about it.
 
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