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[kingsholygrail]

I agree with what your saying, but I disagree that it's only the players. How many odd man breaks do the kings get on average? The system was about puck position at all times.

They were constantly going up the ice after the opposition had time to get all 5 guys back in position, leading to one guy dumping the puck in and one guy chasing. They were constantly outnumbered when coming from their own zone. They had to rely on turnovers in the offensive or neutral zones.

There's being defensive responsible, but imo they were too defensive. They need a coach that won't bench them for trying to create offense instead of playing safe along the boards.

Again youre right, they need to drive the net more. But at the same time, the system isn't helping much either.

Oh this meme again. Sutter openly criticized the Murray system when he came on board and said the team didn't attack enough and spent too much time waiting for something to happen.

Kopitar flat out admitted today that they were just tired of playing the Sutter system because it's tough. Aka, they gave up. They weren't even playing Sutter's system. So **** off with that.

 

[Basilisk]

Kopitar flat out admitted today that they were just tired of playing the Sutter system because it's tough. Aka, they gave up. They weren't even playing Sutter's system. So **** off with that.

If this is true, then Kopitar's too lazy to be captain. I say this is Carter's team.

 

[kingsholygrail]

If this is true, then Kopitar's too lazy to be captain. I say this is Carter's team.

Not in those exact words, but he said playing Sutter's hard brand of hockey is too much for an 82-game season. Whatever that actually means. He also said it works and wins games, though.

Just sounds like they don't want to play a physical game anymore and that's fine, but that's gonna require a rebuild. The personnel that have been drafted and such were done so to support the system of hockey they now want to reject.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't think he's wrong, we said that plenty around here, playing 2012 Kings hockey all 82 games would kill everything in sight

 

[funky]

berry Melrose Baby.


Yah kidding

Would Bernie Nicholls and his suits want a power play coaching job? Creativity that we are lacking.

Wish Dean would have canned Sutter after the week layoff and let Stevens have a go, see what direction he would have took the team

I agree Sutters system is to hard for the newer faster NHL on a daily grind. For those of you that play you know what it's like playing against faster teams when your team is a heavy team. It wears out your legs trying to keep up and suppress. Three years ago there were very few fast teams and the Kings could play that heavy game. Now almost every team has a fast paced puck movement and the Kings are left chasing and that is killing them.

A few new faces, a few old faces gone and a new coach may be all that is needed.

Remember three of the guys that exceeded expectations were Carter, Lewis and Pearson and they are guys that don't have trouble handling the faster pace as they can fly. Adding Kempe even in the bottom 6 also opened up the ice for our slower plugs.

It's not all gloom and doom

 

[Winger23]

Oh this meme again. Sutter openly criticized the Murray system when he came on board and said the team didn't attack enough and spent too much time waiting for something to happen.

Kopitar flat out admitted today that they were just tired of playing the Sutter system because it's tough. Aka, they gave up. They weren't even playing Sutter's system. So **** off with that.

Don't tell me to **** off. I don't give a damn what sutter said about Murray's system. It's the same ******** except more pressure up the the ice.

Again, I'll say it slower this time, I do blame the players. A lot. They just aren't the only ones to blame here.

 

[KopitarFAN]

Well Hitch is off the market, thank god.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Well Hitch is off the market, thank god.

I think he's too old to run a daycare anyway.

 

[KingsFan7824]

If this is true, then Kopitar's too lazy to be captain. I say this is Carter's team.

Where was Carter after the bye week? 1 goal with a goalie in the net after Feb 9th.

This is nobody's team right now, but the 3 guys with a letter on their jersey need to get going on that, because they just played their way out of a coach, so it's all on them now. Want to play a different way? Fine. Time to produce though.

 

[DoktorJeep]

I want to believe the reason DL was fired was due to he being unwilling to fire Sutter in the past.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

I want to believe the reason DL was fired was due to he being unwilling to fire Sutter in the past.

As in the final straw? The last 3 years would give you a long list of mistakes that are all part of the reasons why DL is no longer with us.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

As in the final straw? The last 3 years would give you a long list of mistakes that are all part of the reasons why DL is no longer with us.

Why just the last three years? Why not the last 6-7 years?

 

[Bandit]

The more this is sinking in the more it sucks. It feels like we're right back to where we were pre Lombardi with Lieweike (Luc) in a position to dictate things he shouldn't and an ex player in over his head as GM. In the summer of 2014, my hopes and dreams for this franchise were:

- Dustin Brown retires as the most successful and celebrated captain in Kings history after a 20 year career
- Kings remain competitive and maybe win another cup or two with Brown, Kopitar, Doughty, Quick.
- Dean Lombardi eventually gets promoted upwards and replaced by an heir that was groomed and chosen by him.

Now it's all flushed. Sucks.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

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Why just the last three years? Why not the last 6-7 years?

Because the 3-4 years before 2015, he won two stanley cups on the back of the decisions he made...so that kinda doesn't make any sense, does it?

 

[KINGS17]

The more this is sinking in the more it sucks. It feels like we're right back to where we were pre Lombardi with Lieweike (Luc) in a position to dictate things he shouldn't and an ex player in over his head as GM. In the summer of 2014, my hopes and dreams for this franchise were:

- Dustin Brown retires as the most successful and celebrated captain in Kings history after a 20 year career
- Kings remain competitive and maybe win another cup or two with Brown, Kopitar, Doughty, Quick.
- Dean Lombardi eventually gets promoted upwards and replaced by an heir that was groomed and chosen by him.

Now it's all flushed. Sucks.

This is my feeling as well. Dean made several mistakes over the last few years, but what can't be denied is he changed the culture of the Los Angeles Kings.

It took an outsider to do it, and now AEG has reverted to the same culture which failed miserably prior to Dean's arrival.

 

[KingsFan7824]

The more this is sinking in the more it sucks. It feels like we're right back to where we were pre Lombardi with Lieweike (Luc) in a position to dictate things he shouldn't and an ex player in over his head as GM. In the summer of 2014, my hopes and dreams for this franchise were:

- Dustin Brown retires as the most successful and celebrated captain in Kings history after a 20 year career
- Kings remain competitive and maybe win another cup or two with Brown, Kopitar, Doughty, Quick.
- Dean Lombardi eventually gets promoted upwards and replaced by an heir that was groomed and chosen by him.

Now it's all flushed. Sucks.

Wow. What? He's the guy that believed in the myth of Mike Richards in June of 2014 too. We don't like Lombardi's loyalty, but we do like Lombardi's loyalty. Damn him for his sense of it, but he needs to personally pick an heir.

Blake still hasn't made a single move, and already he's in over his head? He may prove to be, but good lord let the guy do something first.

 

[Bandit]

Wow. What? He's the guy that believed in the myth of Mike Richards in June of 2014 too. We don't like Lombardi's loyalty, but we do like Lombardi's loyalty. Damn him for his sense of it, but he needs to personally pick an heir.

Blake still hasn't made a single move, and already he's in over his head? He may prove to be, but good lord let the guy do something first.

I guess "In the summer of 2014" flew about 10 miles over your head.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

This is my feeling as well. Dean made several mistakes over the last few years, but what can't be denied is he changed the culture of the Los Angeles Kings.

It took an outsider to do it, and now AEG has reverted to the same culture which failed miserably prior to Dean's arrival.

As much as I do not like Blake and am concerned about where he will lead us....the only solace I have is that Lombardi was the one who hired him as asst. GM to begin with. So, I'd like to assume that DL saw something in him and has groomed him enough to be competent at this job. That's all I got...

 

[DryIslandBartender]

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Because the 3-4 years before 2015, he won two stanley cups on the back of the decisions he made...so that kinda doesn't make any sense, does it?

No it doesn't, considering the tumultuous 45 year history of sucktitude. Looks like AEG wants to go back to that.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I guess "In the summer of 2014" flew about 10 miles over your head.

I read that part. Still, Lombardi wasn't an actual Mafia Don. He wasn't always able to, you know, take care of those things for you.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

No it doesn't, considering the tumultuous 45 year history of sucktitude. Looks like AEG wants to go back to that.

I guess your implying that DL should not have been fired....I agree with you, I would have given him another chance. BUT, he dug his own grave, he certainly has failed enough over the last 3 years to warrant his demise.

 

[Fishhead]

As much as I do not like Blake and am concerned about where he will lead us....the only solace I have is that Lombardi was the one who hired him as asst. GM to begin with. So, I'd like to assume that DL saw something in him and has groomed him enough to be competent at this job. That's all I got...

This is the reason Blake doesn't freak me out as much as Luc.

At least we know Blake won't be afraid to play hardball when negotiating

 

[kingscups]

Wow. What? He's the guy that believed in the myth of Mike Richards in June of 2014 too. We don't like Lombardi's loyalty, but we do like Lombardi's loyalty. Damn him for his sense of it, but he needs to personally pick an heir.

Blake still hasn't made a single move, and already he's in over his head? He may prove to be, but good lord let the guy do something first.

OK, he made some mistakes, maybe quite a few as of late, but you can't argue that he was the best GM this franchise has ever had. Why not keep him around as a source of knowledge within the organization but take the reigns away from him as far as player management by promoting him?

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

OK, he made some mistakes, maybe quite a few as of late, but you can't argue that he was the best GM this franchise has ever had. Why not keep him around as a source of knowledge within the organization but take the reigns away from him as far as player management by promoting him?

Maybe DL didn't want that.

 

[Quattro]

Maybe DL didn't want that.

That's a very good point. Maybe Dean was offered a move up with less of a day-to-day role and he didn't want that. We just don't know.

There is a tendency around here to keep repeating speculation as if it is fact. All of us know next to nothing about what actually happens in the inner workings of this team.